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I truly hate Trump supporters

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CriticalThought

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Why? Because they support a demagogue. He really is nothing but a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument. Some of the things I can't stand about his supporters because they buy into his brand of bull crap...

-He creates the illusion of creating jobs by making fake "deals" with companies that would have occurred even if he wasn't the president and signing executive orders that have little to no effect on industries, i.e. less regulations on the coal industry will not change that people prefer to buy natural gas. Even if he never creates good jobs, his supporters will never believe he didn't

-He blames Obama for his own ineptitude, such as with Michael Flynn and the leaks and cannot take responsibility for ANYTHING and his supporters apparently believe he is above accountability

-He is more interested in ratings, Twitter followers, and the election results than the actual policy that affects people's lives

-He proposes a tax plan that primarily benefits him and the upper class and straight up lies about it and even though it has been proven time and time again that the tax rate on the top marginal income has no relationship to economic growth

-He flips on issues after 10 minutes of education just because there was something he didn't know and apparently his supporters believe this is a good thing because they never cared about the issues anyway

-He attacks every institution in the Republic that is critical of him or his policies. The courts. The intelligence community. The filibuster. His supporters could care less if he undermines faith in the entire system.

I could keep going but his supporters stopped reading by the first bullet point and will likely respond with shallow partisan remarks like "liberals just want to bash Trump".

Frankly, Trump is a terrible person. It has nothing to do with his policies or beliefs. He just is a poor example of a human being. But his supporters have identified so closely with him that they can't see anything but what they want to see.
 
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I can't imagine hating a large percentage of Americans. What a dark world that must be.
 
CriticalThought said:
Why? Because they support a demagogue. He really is nothing but a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument. Some of the things I can't stand about his supporters because they buy into his brand of bull crap...

-He creates the illusion of creating jobs by making fake "deals" with companies that would have occurred even if he wasn't the president and signing executive orders that have little to no effect on industries, i.e. less regulations on the coal industry will not change that people prefer to buy natural gas. Even if he never creates good jobs, his supporters will never believe he didn't

-He blames Obama for his own ineptitude, such as with Michael Flynn and the leaks and cannot take responsibility for ANYTHING and his supporters apparently believe he is above accountability

-He is more interested in ratings, Twitter followers, and the election results than the actual policy that affects people's lives

-He proposes a tax plan that primarily benefits him and the upper class and straight up lies about it and even though it has been proven time and time again that the tax rate on the top marginal income has no relationship to economic growth

-He flips on issues after 10 minutes of education just because there was something he didn't know and apparently his supporters believe this is a good thing because they never cared about the issues anyway

-He attacks every institution in the Republic that is critical of him or his policies. The courts. The intelligence community. The filibuster. His supporters could care less if he undermines faith in the entire system.

I could keep going but his supporters stopped reading by the first bullet point and will likely respond with shallow partisan remarks like "liberals just want to bash Trump".

Frankly, Trump is a terrible person. It has nothing to do with his policies or beliefs. He just is a poor example of a human being. But his supporters have identified so closely with him that they can't see anything but what they want to see.
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You never got the memo apparently that we are trying to cut down on the levels of hate generated by diversity.
 
ecofarm said:
I can't imagine hating a large percentage of Americans. What a dark world that must be.
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Not really. Pretty bright actually. I just want to commit every fiber of my being to making sure their demagogue is defeated and history remembers them for what they are.
 
CriticalThought said:
Not really. Pretty bright actually.
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Okay, if you think so.

I just want to commit every fiber of my being to making sure their demagogue is defeated and history remembers them for what they are.
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You'll make no difference being here.
 
ecofarm said:
Okay, if you think so.



You'll make no difference being here.
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I disagree. If I can get even one Trump supporter to realistically examine why they support the man or to even try to defend him, then that is likely one less voter who will be motivated to show up on election day. Isn't that what Trump really taught us? Attack the brand of your opponent so less of their supporters show up and you can claim victory? That seems to be the idea.
 
CriticalThought said:
Not really. Pretty bright actually. I just want to commit every fiber of my being to making sure their demagogue is defeated and history remembers them for what they are.
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The sadism is strong now for sure.

Fanaticism has been strong for awhile.
 
CriticalThought said:
I disagree. If I can get even one Trump supporter to realistically examine why they support the man or to even try to defend him, then that is likely one less voter who will be motivated to show up on election day. Isn't that what Trump really taught us? Attack the brand of your opponent so less of their supporters show up and you can claim victory? That seems to be the idea.
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Even if that was possible, which it's not (no one radically changes beliefs because of an internet forum), you're gonna need better methods; "I hate you" isn't endearing.
 
CriticalThought said:
I disagree. If I can get even one Trump supporter to realistically examine why they support the man or to even try to defend him, then that is likely one less voter who will be motivated to show up on election day. Isn't that what Trump really taught us? Attack the brand of your opponent so less of their supporters show up and you can claim victory? That seems to be the idea.
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This is so sad on so many levels.

Heck of a job!
 
ecofarm said:
Even if that was possible, which it's not (no one radically changes beliefs because of an internet forum), you're gonna need better methods; "I hate you" isn't endearing.
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I am not trying to be endearing or change minds. That would be pointless. You can't reason people out of things they were never reasoned into to begin with and nobody voted for Trump out of empathy for the opposition.

This is simpler. People bought a product and I am reviewing it. They can assess how proud they are of their purchase as time goes on and the reviews pile up.
 
CriticalThought said:
I am not trying to be endearing or change minds. That would be pointless. You can't reason people out of things they were never reasoned into to begin with and nobody voted for Trump out of empathy for the opposition.
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Then you agree, you'll accomplish nothing here.

This is simpler. People bought a product and I am reviewing it. They can assess how proud they are of their purchase as time goes on and the reviews pile up.
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This is a debate website. Your review will be considered defeated.

Anyway, I don't have time for hate; maybe that's why I don't hate large percentages of the population.
 
ecofarm said:
Then you agree, you'll accomplish nothing here.



This is a debate website. Your review will be considered defeated.

Anyway, I don't have time for hate; maybe that's why I don't hate large percentages of the population.
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Then I can share in the absurdity of Sissiphus. Not like what happens here most of the time qualifies as debate anyways.
 
CriticalThought said:
I disagree. If I can get even one Trump supporter to realistically examine why they support the man or to even try to defend him, then that is likely one less voter who will be motivated to show up on election day. Isn't that what Trump really taught us? Attack the brand of your opponent so less of their supporters show up and you can claim victory? That seems to be the idea.
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I saw and listened to plenty of attacks over the past 8 years by Obama and his minions, then listened to Hillary's empty shrills, race baiting, and platitudes during her campaign.

The only difference between Hillary and Trump is that Trump spoke for himself, while Hillary's minions fought her battles for her while she was laid out every other week for variety of mystery illnesses.

Neither side was clean after it was all said and one, and you would know this if you cared enough to make a fairly honest assessment to begin with.
 
ecofarm said:
Then you agree, you'll accomplish nothing here.
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Is this extreme pessimism normal for you after all I know that I am here to learn.......

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reinoe said:
Isn't that the new DNC slogan to appeal to American voters?
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No, it's the conservative motto describing how they feel about anyone who disagrees with them.

Now, do you want to continue to post ignorant partisan hackery or do plan on actually participating on the thread topic?
 
CriticalThought said:
I disagree. If I can get even one Trump supporter to realistically examine why they support the man or to even try to defend him, then that is likely one less voter who will be motivated to show up on election day. Isn't that what Trump really taught us? Attack the brand of your opponent so less of their supporters show up and you can claim victory? That seems to be the idea.
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Who do you support?

Libertarians are always attacking other people for their choices but since libs are never on the winning side of any election they never have anything positive to offer
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Is this extreme pessimism normal for you after all I know that I am here to learn.......

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First, I don't believe that for a moment.

Second, his goal:

CriticalThought said:
If I can get even one Trump supporter to realistically examine why they support the man or to even try to defend him, then that is likely one less voter who will be motivated to show up on election day.
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Let us know when he's changed your mind, Hawk.
 
CriticalThought said:
Why? Because they support a demagogue. He really is nothing but a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument. Some of the things I can't stand about his supporters because they buy into his brand of bull crap...

-He creates the illusion of creating jobs by making fake "deals" with companies that would have occurred even if he wasn't the president and signing executive orders that have little to no effect on industries, i.e. less regulations on the coal industry will not change that people prefer to buy natural gas. Even if he never creates good jobs, his supporters will never believe he didn't

-He blames Obama for his own ineptitude, such as with Michael Flynn and the leaks and cannot take responsibility for ANYTHING and his supporters apparently believe he is above accountability

-He is more interested in ratings, Twitter followers, and the election results than the actual policy that affects people's lives

-He proposes a tax plan that primarily benefits him and the upper class and straight up lies about it and even though it has been proven time and time again that the tax rate on the top marginal income has no relationship to economic growth

-He flips on issues after 10 minutes of education just because there was something he didn't know and apparently his supporters believe this is a good thing because they never cared about the issues anyway

-He attacks every institution in the Republic that is critical of him or his policies. The courts. The intelligence community. The filibuster. His supporters could care less if he undermines faith in the entire system.

I could keep going but his supporters stopped reading by the first bullet point and will likely respond with shallow partisan remarks like "liberals just want to bash Trump".

Frankly, Trump is a terrible person. It has nothing to do with his policies or beliefs. He just is a poor example of a human being. But his supporters have identified so closely with him that they can't see anything but what they want to see.
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While I agree with some of you perceptions of Trump and think you are blowing some of it out proportion, I couldn't help but give a little chuckle about the Trump supporters undermining faith in the system, while peddling in the Russian nonsense and your signature comment about a shadow government.
 
ecofarm said:
First, I don't believe that for a moment.

Second, his goal:



Let us know when he's changed your mind, Hawk.
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I'll have you know that I completely changed my opinion on guns because of the gun nuts at my last home. I am always open to new information and better arguments, the only reason I dont change my mind much is because at my age I have worked through a lot of ideas, and the quality of my work tends to be pretty good. Very seldom do I hear any new ideas or arguments better than what I have heard before.

Thats what education does.
 
Mac77 said:
Who do you support?

Libertarians are always attacking other people for their choices but since libs are never on the winning side of any election they never have anything positive to offer
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You obviously are completely ignorant of history to claim that liberals are never on the winning side of any election.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I'll have you know that I completely changed my opinion on guns because of the gun nuts at my last home. I am always open to new information and better arguments, the only reason I dont change my mind much is because at my agte I have worked through a lot of ideas, and the quality of my work tends to be pretty good, very seldom do I hear any new ideas or arguments better than what I have heard before.

Thats what education does.
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He's not trying to change your mind on an issue (not that I believe that happens to any significant extent anyway), he's trying to change your vote or get you to abstain. That will not happen because of an internet forum.

If one considers an internet forum, this or any other, education, one has no real education.
 
ecofarm said:
He's not trying to change your mind on an issue (not that I believe that happens to any significant extent anyway), he's trying to change your vote or get you to abstain. That will not happen because of an internet forum.

If one considers an internet forum, this or any other, education, one has no real education.
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Ya but you know us Truth Tellers, we dont care so much why folks say what they say or who they are, we focus on the quality of the ideas and arguments...... it's a whole different lifestyle. .
 
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