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Liberals Re-discover the Love of Money in Politics

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WASHINGTON — President Trump has occupied the White House for less than three months, but his administration has fueled an early boom in Democratic fundraising and activism, according to liberal groups at the forefront of upcoming political fights. ActBlue, an online fundraising conduit for Democratic candidates and causes, has processed more than $111 million in contributions during the first three months of 2017, more than four times the amount it handled during the comparable period in the 2016 election cycle.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...dency-fuels-democratic-fundraising/100477800/


WASHINGTON—Riding a wave of grass-roots enthusiasm, several Senate Democrats up for re-election in 2018 posted strong fundraising takes in the first quarter, amassing big war chests of campaign cash. Democratic candidates in Virginia, Indiana, Missouri and North Dakota reported large fundraising hauls rarely seen so early in an election cycle.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-democrats-fundraising-jumps-ahead-of-2018-election-1492210323

Welcome back, Democrats.
 
There is nothing like a beat down to encourage one to get back in the gym .
 
Fiddytree said:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...dency-fuels-democratic-fundraising/100477800/



https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-democrats-fundraising-jumps-ahead-of-2018-election-1492210323

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We witness cycles like this all the time--who can outspend who. However, people are just starting to realize the candidate and the candidate's ideology over the $$$.

If someone would have told me two years ago that either Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton would not be the next President, I, as well as most would have scoffed.

People are starting to become more result driven; they're losing interest in the stalemate of DC and want to see results. Sooner or later we will witness this kind of change in the Congressional races as well. :twocents:
 
Democrats hate Trump more than they love America.
 
Praxas said:
Trump supporters love Trump more than they love America.
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I wouldn't know since I'm not a Trump supporter. But what I find is that Democrats aren't motivated by their own agenda which is theoretically based on helping make this country better. Instead they're motivated by a rabid and irrational hatred of Trump.
 
reinoe said:
I wouldn't know since I'm not a Trump supporter. But what I find is that Democrats aren't motivated by their own agenda which is theoretically based on helping make this country better. Instead they're motivated by a rabid and irrational hatred of Trump.
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Rabid, yes, irrational not so sure on that.
 
Winchester said:
Rabid, yes, irrational not so sure on that.
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Nah, it's irrational. One minute they love the idea or repealing/reworking our trade deals, staying out of unnecessary wars, and bringing jobs back into this country: once Trump gets in office they hate all of those things and have protests to put a stop to it.
 
reinoe said:
I wouldn't know since I'm not a Trump supporter. But what I find is that Democrats aren't motivated by their own agenda which is theoretically based on helping make this country better. Instead they're motivated by a rabid and irrational hatred of Trump.
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Well, you're not a Trump supporter anymore. Wasn't that long ago that you were one of his biggest fans.
 
reinoe said:
Nah, it's irrational. One minute they love the idea or repealing/reworking our trade deals, staying out of unnecessary wars, and bringing jobs back into this country: once Trump gets in office they hate all of those things and have protests to put a stop to it.
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It's almost as if they're acting like an opposition party....
 
Bob N said:
We witness cycles like this all the time--who can outspend who. However, people are just starting to realize the candidate and the candidate's ideology over the $$$.

If someone would have told me two years ago that either Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton would not be the next President, I, as well as most would have scoffed.

People are starting to become more result driven; they're losing interest in the stalemate of DC and want to see results. Sooner or later we will witness this kind of change in the Congressional races as well. :twocents:
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Hillary outspent Trump by many hundreds of millions in the 2016 general election campaign.
Trump won the presidency despite having raised less than any major party presidential nominee since John McCain in 2008, the last to accept federal funds to pay for his general election contest.​
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/

Likewise in most state races, Democrats are outspending Republicans.

Seems to me that the Democrats should worry less about money and focus more on their message and approach to government. The progressive agenda is losing its luster to the benefit of GOP/conservative candidates.

But just listening to Hillary this week, despite outspending him like 4 or 5 to 1, she still doesn't have a clue why she lost to the most unpopular candidate the GOP has run in recent history. And the Democrats don't seem to be much smarter about why they continue to lose elections and see their power eroding across the country. And their congressional leaders are still pulling the same old crap in Washington that isn't earning them any popularity points either.

I wish the Democrats would return to be the Democrats like Truman, Kennedy, Humphrey, Mondale--I was proudly one of them back then--instead of the snowflake class that are far too common today.
 
Huh, so the Blues don't want to sit tight and play watchdog* after all.

*watchdog (not the video game) means to watch the dominant parties actions and criticize their failure to carry out promises or questionable initiatives. Just to clear that up.
 
Bob N said:
We witness cycles like this all the time--who can outspend who. However, people are just starting to realize the candidate and the candidate's ideology over the $$$.

If someone would have told me two years ago that either Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton would not be the next President, I, as well as most would have scoffed.

People are starting to become more result driven; they're losing interest in the stalemate of DC and want to see results. Sooner or later we will witness this kind of change in the Congressional races as well. :twocents:
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AlbqOwl said:
Hillary outspent Trump by many hundreds of millions in the 2016 general election campaign.
Trump won the presidency despite having raised less than any major party presidential nominee since John McCain in 2008, the last to accept federal funds to pay for his general election contest.​
https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/

Likewise in most state races, Democrats are outspending Republicans.

Seems to me that the Democrats should worry less about money and focus more on their message and approach to government. The progressive agenda is losing its luster to the benefit of GOP/conservative candidates.

But just listening to Hillary this week, despite outspending him like 4 or 5 to 1, she still doesn't have a clue why she lost to the most unpopular candidate the GOP has run in recent history. And the Democrats don't seem to be much smarter about why they continue to lose elections and see their power eroding across the country. And their congressional leaders are still pulling the same old crap in Washington that isn't earning them any popularity points either.

I wish the Democrats would return to be the Democrats like Truman, Kennedy, Humphrey, Mondale--I was proudly one of them back then--instead of the snowflake class that are far too common today.
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You're not getting what I'm discussing. The money is starting to become irrelevant. People are wanting to try anyone that looks like they have some chutzpah to them. The orthodox candidates are becoming more like dinosaurs.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
They do? Really? Who?

Name some names.
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The people who are donating to the DNC to oppose Trump. Remember, last year Donations were at record low levels despite it being an election year.
 
ocean515 said:
I'm struggling with the thread title.

When did they loose the love of money in politics?

Through the multitude of special interest groups and others affiliated and in support of the left, their love of money has never wavered.
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The Party of campaign finance reform since the late 1960s, hated PACS and SuperPACs, complaining about Citizens United, and how much money was being spent in all races.

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reinoe said:
The people who are donating to the DNC to oppose Trump. Remember, last year Donations were at record low levels despite it being an election year.
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Ah, so in other words, no one. Not a single name.

Figures.
 
Bob N said:
You're not getting what I'm discussing. The money is starting to become irrelevant. People are wanting to try anyone that looks like they have some chutzpah to them. The orthodox candidates are becoming more like dinosaurs.
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For sure the 2016 election was a resounding rejection of the status quo. Those 'dinosaurs' have had years now to get something done, get us back on the right track, and make good on their campaign promises. They didn't. And that is why a Donald Trump looked so good to so many of us. We don't care if he changes his mind--you know, what his critics call 'flip flops'. We don't care if he doesn't succeed on every attempt just so he doesn't use a failure as an excuse not to do it at all.

We elected Donald Trump to get things back on track and moving again. And so far, as his administration is still in its infancy, he has not disappointed much.
 
AlbqOwl said:
For sure the 2016 election was a resounding rejection of the status quo. Those 'dinosaurs' have had years now to get something done, get us back on the right track, and make good on their campaign promises. They didn't. And that is why a Donald Trump looked so good to so many of us. We don't care if he changes his mind--you know, what his critics call 'flip flops'. We don't care if he doesn't succeed on every attempt just so he doesn't use a failure as an excuse not to do it at all.

We elected Donald Trump to get things back on track and moving again. And so far, as his administration is still in its infancy, he has not disappointed much.
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That is an extremely moronic argument, everyone with half a brain understands that the GOP, the party of no, was not going to allow any Congressional assistance for a recovery from 2011 on...and frankly, they are not going to give the Orangatan any real, significant fiscal stimulus either. But then again, why am I expecting you to understand a macroeconomic argument?
 
Fiddytree said:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...dency-fuels-democratic-fundraising/100477800/



https://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-democrats-fundraising-jumps-ahead-of-2018-election-1492210323

Welcome back, Democrats.
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The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, for instance, announced Friday that it had raised nearly $31 million between Jan. 1 and March 31 — blowing past the $19.7 million that the committee collected at this point in the 2016 election cycle.

The haul broke the committee’s records for early cash and online fundraising. But the National Republican Congressional Committee, the fundraising arm for House Republicans, collected even more: $35.9 million.
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Did the WSJ break down what percentage of the donations were large versus small?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
That is an extremely moronic argument, everyone with half a brain understands that the GOP, the party of no, was not going to allow any Congressional assistance for a recovery from 2011 on...and frankly, they are not going to give the Orangatan any real, significant fiscal stimulus either. But then again, why am I expecting you to understand a macroeconomic argument?
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And here we have an example of a non sequitur red herring response, infused with a bit of straw man, accompanied by another point made that went sailing right over another head.
 
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