Or, we never had one.
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Fine. Leave whenever you like. See ya.
Dood... your idol must be the scarecrow in the Wizzard of Oz, you seem to love straw men. To each his own preference I say, just keep it at home, please.
I think we used to understand that people that came to America were generally freedom lovers, wanted a better chance in life than the countries they were coming from were offering them, understood we have, and live by, our magnificient Constitution, that we, granted gradually, accept [and accepted] everyone as long as you became an American foremost, assimilated. While the Western frontier was still being won we often felt ourselves, our American character to self made and self reliant, independent, hardy can do type folk coming from everywhere to be one people, E Pluribus Unum.
You are welcome to deny, but as so often proven, you say a lot but most of it is fairly shallow, scratching at the surface feel good and cool lib stuff.
Where did I ever [ this is a common beginning of a line I have to use with you every thread in which I encounter you] say there was a single reference to only one ideology? We can have different perspectives on how to arrive at the same things, a strong, prosperous, industrious, educated, free people.
BTW, when did accurate descriptions become drama? We were unified enough to take on the most powerful nation in the world and gain independence, we were unified enough to compromise and create a common framework for governing we know as our Constitution. But I never used the word, nor meant, unified in the manner you are using it. Being free, independent, prosperous and strong does not mean we all think exactly the same... that is a requirement of modern liberalism.
If you think political parties and political platforms are forever, cannot be defeated, check out the American Whigs, the Know Nothings, the Anti Federalists, Southern Democrat segregationists... while some may still retain some adherents, they are in reality extinct.
1955 was a particularly good year, well, tax rates were outrageous... what was wrong with 1955? But it was in the 60s that it became apparent that some were anti American and with the help of Soviet seed money and active disinformation, with two limited wars against a truly evil ideology, that we were not allowed to win, under our belt... the cultural chasm has been growing. Well, until the left disgraced itself, dug itself into its inevitable hole and now cannot get out. All they can do is scream Trump at the top of their "collective" lungs.
Your folks don't want to cure structural unemployment, nor solve the immigration problems, you promote both, promise give aways from the people who earn and then blame it all on those that have jobs and, who else, the bah humbug Republicans [too many of whom are just liberals wanting to get elected on the side that wins].
Dood, been poor... no, I did not like it and did something about it. I sure as hell didn't blame it on someone else. I didn't go on welfare, didn't steal, didn't pimp out girls or sell drugs, I took the first minimum wage job I could get, this after having been a Trust banker that got laid off because of a bad economy, and i worked my way back into the game. Got more education, at my own expense and gradually improved my lot.
I worked damned hard at several jobs.
Again, you repeat and emphasize what I just got finished saying and then try to make it appear as if your are contridicting my statement. I watch NO TV dude, I watch clips on youtube of CNN, MSNBC, Fox, CBS, CSPAN, ABC, PBS, I go wherever I need to get perspective and have friends on the right, left, libertarian, and moderates with whom I discuss matters... but you get all yours from the ones we know are liars on current politics, who feign being down the middle when all they are is anti Trump.
I didn't set out to write a book about it here, so could not hope to explain, withh the severe character limits here, such a premise. But if you read closely I am sure, to the other than clueless, you will find some tantalizing tidbits. Too mentally taxing I can easily surmise.
Dood. I can see you are not channeling Sherlock Holmes. Should be elementary my dear Visbeck, I am already in my self made utopia... broke my heart what you folks were doing to our fine country.