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Does white America have nothing to do with White Supremacy?

ecofarm said:
You're generalizing Asian Americans according to their upper class, while generalizing black Americans according to their lower class. This is only possible because of Asian Americans being generally wealthy in their home country in order to be able to immigrate and thus having an unusually large upper class.

What if we look at the Asian gangs in California, which outnumber the black gangs in total numbers and per cap. Should we draw "Asian culture" from them, as is done regarding "black culture"?
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Wait a minute. Are you now contending that if we look at the statistics in the right way that Asians Americans and Black Americans are on a level playing field?

As for your contention about "gangs" I need to see some data. I have never heard this argument before but given Asians far lower incarceration rate than blacks I find it hard to believe.
 
ecofarm said:
Yeah, all them educated folk have forfeited their intellectual integrity by becoming educated. It's the prison and militia crowd that know the real intellectual stuff.
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Yes, if they are a "Something Studies" "educator" then they are idiots and all the zombies they produce as well.
 
International10 said:
Wait a minute. Are you now contending that if we look at the statistics in the right way that Asians Americans and Black Americans are on a level playing field?
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No, I'm saying you draw your generalizations for Asian Americans from the upper class of that group; however, you draw generalizations for black Americans from the lower class of that group.

As for your contention about "gangs" I need to see some data. I have never heard this argument before but given Asians far lower incarceration rate than blacks I find it hard to believe.
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Asian immigrants are even less likely to report incidents to the police than black Americans. This is attributed to a distrust of government in home countries. I saw this data in a documentary. I don't blame you for wanting citation. I'm kinda busy but I might look for it. Perhaps, if you're particularly interested in the subject (you seem to be), you will as well.
 
Fishking said:
Yes, if they are a "Something Studies" "educator" then they are idiots and all the zombies they produce as well.
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Typical racist and sexist anti-intellectualism.
 
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International10 said:
As for your contention about "gangs" I need to see some data. I have never heard this argument before but given Asians far lower incarceration rate than blacks I find it hard to believe.
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Maybe the Asians are demonstrating that they're a superior culture by getting caught less often than blacks?

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Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad is a threat to the Syrian People

Fuhremensch of the Globalist Superclass Capitalists Herr Trumpf is a threat to every man, woman and child on the planet Earth and needs to be charged with War Crimes before the ICC in the Hague for threatening 7 billion people with nuclear and atomic holocaust.

RESIST.
 
ecofarm said:
Typical racist and sexist anti-intellectualism.
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Yes, yes...I understand that you don't have a rational argument. You don't need to constantly reaffirm that fact.
 
Harshaw said:
Well, you do have an awful lot of people who say that all white people are complicit in perpetuating "white privilege" and all the bad things which go along with it simply by being white.

These people, of course, are backwards idiots.
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What is it that makes white privilege or any other privilege bad?
 
ecofarm said:
No, I'm saying you draw your generalizations for Asian Americans from the upper class of that group; however, you draw generalizations for black Americans from the lower class of that group.



Asian immigrants are even less likely to report incidents to the police than black Americans. This is attributed to a distrust of government in home countries. I saw this data in a documentary. I don't blame you for wanting citation. I'm kinda busy but I might look for it. Perhaps, if you're particularly interested in the subject (you seem to be), you will as well.
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I thought you were referring to gangs globally. I know there are gangs pretty wide spread in Asia (China and Japan in particular) but I hadn't heard of much issues with Asian gangs here in America. It would make sense that there would be an issue here as well, but I don't recall ever seeing any reports on the matter.
 
TurtleDude said:
not more of this complete BS that minorities cannot be racist. that's one of the most stupid claims I have ever seen. individuals are responsible for their actions. This group rights or group wrongs is idiotic and essentially tries to undermine individual freedom and responsibility
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Looks like he's stepped it up too. Now whites are the only group in the entire world that can be racist because to hear him tell it we have the majority of power in the entire world. His stance is nothing more than racist garbage designed to pretend like its legitimate but still ends up smelling like crap.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Looks like he's stepped it up too. Now whites are the only group in the entire world that can be racist because to hear him tell it we have the majority of power in the entire world. His stance is nothing more than racist garbage designed to pretend like its legitimate but still ends up smelling like crap.
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bingo you hit it right on the head
 
International10 said:
In discussing the fundamental issue of how to affect change in a backwards culture, one has to be confrontational. We saw this in the civil rights movement in the United States:

It is pretty indisputable that most white Americans were not engaed in actively murdering or lynching black americans (from the post civil war era up to the civil rights movement of the 1960s). However, most leaders of the civil rights movement did not react to reports of lynchings or murders of black americans by saying "white people have nothing to do with white supremacy." It was just the opposite. Civil rights leaders made sure that they held White America, at large, responsible. This made sense. Afterall, even though only a very small miniority of White Americans were actively engaged in this conduct it was "White America" and "White Culture" that was ENABLING this conduct to a large degree. It was important to highlight that even though many white Americans were not actively killing black Americans, too many white Americans were either indifferent or tacitily approving of the conduct of a few. Of course many white Americans were actively fighting alongside black Americans in the name of civil rights, but this didn't matter because they knew white America, at large, had a problem.

My point is that the success of the civil rights movement, in fundamentally changing the American landscape, depended in large part on holding White America at large culpable for the terrorization of Black Americans. Which leads to my question why have the very same liberals who may have been marching for civil rights and holding White America accountable for a very small minority of White Americans, not holding the Islamic world to the same accountability. While only a relatively small number of muslims belong to terrorist organizations aren't there many more who are either tacititly approving their conduct, or are indifferent.

You repeatedly hear "Islam has nothing to do with Islamic Terrorism"? Is this true? and if so Does white America have nothing to do with White Supremacy?
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1. Have we seen near the number of Islamic attacks on American soil, as we have seen with blacks prior to Civil Rights movement?
2. Has the duration of time for said Islamic attacks on American soil been anything close to the duration of time, prior to the Civil Rights movement.
3. Were innocent whites convicted of crimes against blacks. Your biased opinion seems to imply that this was commonplace.
4. The entire world is speaking up against extreme Islamic terrorism. Your biased opinion seems to imply that "liberals" are patting them on the back.
5. Many Muslims have decried terrorism. Your biased opinion doesn't mention this at all.
6. The Bin Laden raid was carried out, with information from Pakistanis. How does this fit into your narrative?

It's a ridiculous comparison. I might agree, if you're saying Muslims need to do more to help combat terrorism. But to equate it to the plight of the Blacks in this country, is wreckless and irresponsible.
 
ecofarm said:
Only actual racists, and morons denying majority privilege and falsely labeling minority organizations as racist, are responsible.
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So much privilege!

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Media_Truth said:
1. Have we seen near the number of Islamic attacks on American soil, as we have seen with blacks prior to Civil Rights movement?
2. Has the duration of time for said Islamic attacks on American soil been anything close to the duration of time, prior to the Civil Rights movement.
3. Were innocent whites convicted of crimes against blacks. Your biased opinion seems to imply that this was commonplace.
4. The entire world is speaking up against extreme Islamic terrorism. Your biased opinion seems to imply that "liberals" are patting them on the back.
5. Many Muslims have decried terrorism. Your biased opinion doesn't mention this at all.
6. The Bin Laden raid was carried out, with information from Pakistanis. How does this fit into your narrative?

It's a ridiculous comparison. I might agree, if you're saying Muslims need to do more to help combat terrorism. But to equate it to the plight of the Blacks in this country, is wreckless and irresponsible.
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First of all Who is "equating" anything. It was a broad comparison simply meant to highlight that just because ONLY a few people are actually acting violently on behalf of a certain group, that doesn't mean that everyone else in that group gets a free pass. Just as many Muslims are against Islamic supremacy many White Americans were against white Supremacy.

Your attempts to undermine my argument are kind of pathetic. For instance, you ask about "pakistanis giving information so that we could kill Bin Laden" I could come back with "an all white congress passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965."

Your clearly missing the broader point here. Just because many whites speak out against White Supremacy and only a small minority actually engage in killing minorities, there is still a wider systemic problem. Muslims should be held account for what their culture produces in the same way the western world is. The reasons I bring it up is because of walking dichotomies like yourself who blame millenial whites for slavery and Jim Crow and then say that Islam has nothing to do with Global Jihad.
 
International10 said:
First of all Who is "equating" anything. It was a broad comparison simply meant to highlight that just because ONLY a few people are actually acting violently on behalf of a certain group, that doesn't mean that everyone else in that group gets a free pass. Just as many Muslims are against Islamic supremacy many White Americans were against white Supremacy.

Your attempts to undermine my argument are kind of pathetic. For instance, you ask about "pakistanis giving information so that we could kill Bin Laden" I could come back with "an all white congress passed the Civil Rights Act of 1965."

Your clearly missing the broader point here. Just because many whites speak out against White Supremacy and only a small minority actually engage in killing minorities, there is still a wider systemic problem. Muslims should be held account for what their culture produces in the same way the western world is. The reasons I bring it up is because of walking dichotomies like yourself who blame millenial whites for slavery and Jim Crow and then say that Islam has nothing to do with Global Jihad.
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And on the subjects of slavery and segregation, only the western world gets blame for things that were universal issues. Let's not forget who was first to end slavery.
 
International10 said:
First of all Who is "equating" anything. It was a broad comparison simply meant to highlight that just because ONLY a few people are actually acting violently on behalf of a certain group, that doesn't mean that everyone else in that group gets a free pass. Just as many Muslims are against Islamic supremacy many White Americans were against white Supremacy.
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A "Broad Comparison" was not made clear at all.

The reasons I bring it up is because of walking dichotomies like yourself who blame millenial whites for slavery and Jim Crow and then say that Islam has nothing to do with Global Jihad.
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And then to top it off, you start generalizing and name-calling, to back up your misguided comparison.
 
Media_Truth said:
A "Broad Comparison" was not made clear at all.


And then to top it off, you start generalizing and name-calling, to back up your misguided comparison.
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"A Broad Comparison was not made clear at all" - I agree I did not explicitly say it was a broad comparison but rather left it to inference which most people in here clearly picked up on. Likewise a direct "equivalency" was not "made clear" either. I can't help it if you are not very good at reading between the lines.
 
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