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How Long Before Trump Goes Back To Being a Liberal

ModerateGOP said:
lolz. I've been a Republican longer than he has and I'm only 28.
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Doesn't matter. Republican voters voted for him over 15 other candidates, all of them more conservative than Trump. The fact that your fellow Republican voters chose a big government liberal from NY as the leader of their party speaks volumes. Regardless, Trump belongs to the GOP and their voters. They voted for him, they own him.
 
ModerateGOP said:
I'm not sure what world you are living in but he did not run on universal health care, or at least that's certainly not what the base thought. He clearly chanted repeal and replace at his rallies. The Conservatives believed that meant get rid of it altogether and replace it with stuff they like.

He did say he would cover everyone numerous times, but I wasn't the one who believed it. Yeah, I bet he was for universal healthcare since that's all he talked about when he described what he was going to replace it with. But then, why did he go along with the Republican Health Care RINO bill? Maybe it was just to make sure it failed? That way he could try something else with democrats??? Which is exactly what he has ended up doing. WHOA!

No one really seemed to care what he wanted to replace it with...
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MG, where'd you go. I was discussing the facts that disprove your narrative. You seemed eager to reply until I asked you

You simply need to explain how you interpret "No one will lose coverage. There will be insurance for everybody. Healthcare will be a “lot less expensive” for everyone ".
 
Vern said:
ooooo, good catch with the "that's certainly not what the base thought." But we really don't care what dumb people thought they heard. We are discussing you starting a thread with claims that blew up in your face. You simply need to explain how you interpret "No one will lose coverage. There will be insurance for everybody. Healthcare will be a “lot less expensive” for everyone ". so keep you can your desperate deflecting questions. that's just you trying to convince yourself.
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Vern said:
MG, where'd you go. I was discussing the facts that disprove your narrative. You seemed eager to reply until I asked you

You simply need to explain how you interpret "No one will lose coverage. There will be insurance for everybody. Healthcare will be a “lot less expensive” for everyone ".
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So you seem to be arguing that Trump was for liberal policies, and somehow the ideas in the thread is wrong? Maybe you should go back and read the title, "How long Before Trump Goes Back to Being a Liberal?" That is a liberal position he has taken! But I fear no matter how often I repeat this and agree with you, somehow you'll say I'm wrong simply because I'm a republican.
 
ModerateGOP said:
So you seem to be arguing that Trump was for liberal policies, and somehow the ideas in the thread is wrong? Maybe you should go back and read the title, "How long Before Trump Goes Back to Being a Liberal?" That is a liberal position he has taken! But I fear no matter how often I repeat this and agree with you, somehow you'll say I'm wrong simply because I'm a republican.
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So wanting everyone to have coverage that is affordable is a liberal policy?

Thanks for admitting that you want expensive coverage that only a few can afford
 
sangha said:
So wanting everyone to have coverage that is affordable is a liberal policy?

Thanks for admitting that you want expensive coverage that only a few can afford
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Yes, Universal Health Care Single Payer System is a liberal policy. At least I am not pretending that I don't know what liberal policies are and that Republicans have no replacement plan...
 
ModerateGOP said:
Yes, Universal Health Care Single Payer System is a liberal policy. At least I am not pretending that I don't know what liberal policies are and that Republicans have no replacement plan...
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You are pretending that you do not want health care to be more expensive and want fewer people to have health insurance
 
sangha said:
You are pretending that you do not want health care to be more expensive and want fewer people to have health insurance
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Nope I never stated that, and how can I support a plan that never existed? You should go back through my posting history. I recall saying the trump/ryan plan was poo-poo and would never pass, so stop trying to pretend you know what my position on health care is. I'm pretty much fine with the ACA (as it doesn't affect me much) since it's the law, and didn't care for the AHCA. When the Supreme Court rules on something that is the end game. I don't pretend to know more than they do.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Nope I never stated that, and how can I support a plan that never existed? You should go back through my posting history. I recall saying the trump/ryan plan was poo-poo and would never pass, so stop trying to pretend you know what my position on health care is. I'm pretty much fine with the ACA (as it doesn't affect me much) since it's the law, and didn't care for the AHCA. When the Supreme Court rules on something that is the end game. I don't pretend to know more than they do.
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So you admit that you are a liberal!!!!

You fell right into that one.
 
sangha said:
So you admit that you are a liberal!!!!

You fell right into that one.
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Yes, I've been called that before, but I'm no liberal. I have very conservative stances that I vote on. Remember, we have fought about GMOs before. However, I like democracy, old media, and the rule of law. I'm a moderate who doesn't fight with the supreme court. I could care less about partisan hackery. Health Care doesn't even go into consideration when I vote. I'm a 28 year old single guy who eats nothing but meat, eggs, and veggies. I'm healthy as a horse!
 
ModerateGOP said:
Yes, I've been called that before, but I'm no liberal.
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Yeah, Trump is a liberal because he wants everyone to have insurance that is affordable.

But you are not a liberal because you want everyone to have insurance that is affordable

I have very conservative stances that I vote on.
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Trump has very conservative stances, but he is not a conservative

You have very conservative stances, so that makes you a conservative

Have you noticed? You are not very good at this.
 
sangha said:
Yeah, Trump is a liberal because he wants everyone to have insurance that is affordable.

But you are not a liberal because you want everyone to have insurance that is affordable
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Throughout this entire discussion my points have been:

1. Trump is a liberal masquerading as a conservative.
2. It won't be long before Trump reverts back to his liberal ways.
3. Trump's HealthCare Plan was too liberal for Conservatives to vote on so they pulled it.
4. Trump's Health Care Plan with the Democrats will be too liberal for Conservatives to vote on.
5. Yes, the Health Care Plan is too conservative for others like me and Sanha which is why we both oppose it.

It's not me who is bad at this. It's Trump!!!! You just can't get past your attack mode to realize that we are agreeing to see that. Hopefully I laid it out for you more clearly.

You seem to be siding with the freedom caucus and inane far right conservatives who say that anybody who doesn't agree with them is a liberal. I can agree with you and not be a liberal. C'mon now...
 
ModerateGOP said:
Throughout this entire discussion my points have been:

1. Trump is a liberal masquerading as a conservative.
2. It won't be long before Trump reverts back to his liberal ways.
3. Trump's HealthCare Plan was too liberal for Conservatives to vote on so they pulled it.
4. Trump's Health Care Plan with the Democrats will be too liberal for Conservatives to vote on.
5. Yes, the Health Care Plan is too conservative for others like me and Sanha which is why we both oppose it.

It's not me who is bad at this. It's Trump!!!! You just can't get past your attack mode to realize that we are agreeing to see that. Hopefully I laid it out for you more clearly.

You seem to be siding with the freedom caucus and inane far right conservatives who say that anybody who doesn't agree with them is a liberal. I can agree with you and not be a liberal. C'mon now...
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Throughout this entire discussion, you have made it clear that you are a liberal, pretending to be a moderate republican and you have fooled no one.
 
sangha said:
Throughout this entire discussion, you have made it clear that you are a liberal, pretending to be a moderate republican and you have fooled no one.
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Oh yeah, because a liberal is against Net Neutrality, Carbon Taxes, and Pro-GMO & Fossil Fuels but OK. You win I guess I am a liberal! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lamo
 
ModerateGOP said:
Oh yeah, because a liberal is against Net Neutrality, Carbon Taxes, and Pro-GMO & Fossil Fuels but OK. You win I guess I am a liberal! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :lamo
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Umm, Trump agrees with every one of the positions you just listed. He even made two of the positions regular talking points during his campaign
 
sangha said:
Umm, Trump agrees with every one of the positions you just listed. He even made two of the positions regular talking points during his campaign
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So does Rand Paul. Doesn't mean I like him any better.
 
sangha said:
But it does mean that you are just as liberal as Trump is.
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and Snoop Dog Likes Weed, doesn't mean I'd want him put in charge of the industry.

Trump and I might share some interests, doesn't mean I like the way he has run things or how he acts or his child-like behavior.
 
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