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When the cheaters don't even know they are cheating...

countryboy said:
Irrelevant in a presidential election. I don't think you understand how the president is elected. In a popular vote, voting districts are irrelevant. What in the world are you talking about?
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Trump won because he was able to target very specific key districts in swing states.
 
CriticalThought said:
Trump won because he was able to target very specific key districts in swing states.
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How exactly did he "target very specific key districts in swing states"? Please be specific.

Again, I don't think you understand how the President of the United States is elected. Trump won because he garnered more electoral votes than Lying Bitch.
 
countryboy said:
How exactly did he "target very specific key districts in swing states"? Please be specific.

Again, I don't think you understand how the President of the United States is elected. Trump won because he garnered more electoral votes than Lying Bitch.
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Just three counties – Macomb County, MI; York County, PA and Waukesha County, WI – elected Donald Trump. If those three counties had cast zero votes, Trump would have lost all three states and the election. By the same logic, just three counties re-elected President Obama in 2012: Miami-Dade County, FL; Cuyahoga County, OH and Philadelphia, PA.
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56 Interesting Facts About the 2016 Election
 
countryboy said:
Soooo, if those voters had lived in other districts, they individually wouldn't have voted for Trump?
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It is very possible they would not have. Trump specifically chose those locations for rallies to energize people who would not normally turn out to vote but who the data indicated were receptive to his message. That is the nature of presidential politics now. Use the data gathered for gerrymandering to determine the specific areas you need to hit with energizing campaigns.
 
I recall hearing something shortly after Trump announced his candidacy (when no one thought he could win) that he was bragging he was going to win because he had some kind of whiz data processing program/nerds who knew how to use the data. Could be I just dreamed that...
 
CriticalThought said:
"Democrats lost over 1,000 seats under Obama."

When I see this statement on the forum, I can only feel a sense of pity for the historical ignorance of the person making it. Trump screamed about how our elections are rigged and I would say he is wrong. What is really rigged are the voters.



Brian Litwin: The GOP's plot to acquire an unbreakable House majority - Longmont Times-Call[/

[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/17/gop-redmap-memo-gerrymandering_n_2498913.html]GOP REDMAP Memo Admits Gerrymandering To Thank For Congressional Election Success | The Huffington Post




So this why we resist. Not because Trump or the GOP won but how they won. They cheated. Their voters could care less and that should tell you something about who many of them are. So I call for an escalation of resistance. If there isn't to be a fair and representative system then why should we respect the system? The system only works if we agree to abide by it and so maybe it is time we disrupt it since the cheaters will never acknowledge the steps they have taken to exploit and undermine the system so they can control it to their own ends.
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The REPUBS dis a great job rewriting state laws ALEC and Crosscheck. 90 % of counties now red? What ARE we going to do when don the con doesn't bring $50 / hr jobs backtohigh school WV boys? I guess they don't realize "America First" was the USA nazi group slogan??
 
ashurbanipal said:
I recall hearing something shortly after Trump announced his candidacy (when no one thought he could win) that he was bragging he was going to win because he had some kind of whiz data processing program/nerds who knew how to use the data. Could be I just dreamed that...
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It was called ALEC and cross check bet 99% of his supporters never heard of them
 
CriticalThought said:
No, Gerrymandering is why Hillary lost to Trump. Every president faces a penalty at the midterm elections...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...how-the-midterm-penalty-is-hurting-democrats/

But as I said, I do not expect cheaters to acknowledge they have cheated when they are in the dominant position. I just expect them to understand why they will face unbridled resistance from those who recognize the realities of how they obtained their "victories".

But you are free to show how the GOP did not have project REDMAP and how they did not massively fund state elections to pursue redistricting. And how they did not gerrymander the districts to lock up the House. And how that has not led to more and more extremity and lack of compromise. And how the anger of not getting anything done did not lead to the election of Trump.

It should be pretty easy to prove if it didn't happen. But it did. And the cheaters don't even know they are cheaters.
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Ask Bernie Sanders about cheaters...... They are called the democratic national committee!



The Russians/Fake news/Gerrymandering did not cause Hillary to lose the election!

The one person that influenced the election was the candidate herself- Hillary.


Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering set up the Clinton foundation?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering set up a unauthorized server?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering place highly classified material on a unclassified server?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering pick a candidate for the democratic party that was under a active criminal FBI investigation?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering tell Hillary not to have a decent economic message for the rust belt?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering tell Hillary to slime half of the country? Basket of deplorable's!

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering force the Clinton campaign to rig the primary against Sanders?

Did the Russians?Fake News/Gerrymandering tell the campaign to act like they won the election before they actually did? (arrogant, condescending, we are better than you)

So the left is so traumatized they will say anything or do anything to try to make sense of the loss.

The Russian/Fake News/Gerrymandering excuse is just the latest. So once this plays out another excuse will pop up!
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Ask Bernie Sanders about cheaters...... They are called the democratic national committee!



The Russians/Fake news/Gerrymandering did not cause Hillary to lose the election!

The one person that influenced the election was the candidate herself- Hillary.


Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering set up the Clinton foundation?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering set up a unauthorized server?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering place highly classified material on a unclassified server?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering pick a candidate for the democratic party that was under a active criminal FBI investigation?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering tell Hillary not to have a decent economic message for the rust belt?

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering tell Hillary to slime half of the country? Basket of deplorable's!

Did the Russians/Fake News/Gerrymandering force the Clinton campaign to rig the primary against Sanders?

Did the Russians?Fake News/Gerrymandering tell the campaign to act like they won the election before they actually did? (arrogant, condescending, we are better than you)

So the left is so traumatized they will say anything or do anything to try to make sense of the loss.

The Russian/Fake News/Gerrymandering excuse is just the latest. So once this plays out another excuse will pop up!
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I dunno. Ask FBI Director Comey.
 
Moot said:
I dunno, do they?
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They've been essentially running as moderate republicans with an emphasis on social justice/identity politics for awhile now, which has been to their disgrace and failure.
 
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