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New Pro-Obamacare Ad Features Trump Voter

er uh MR, I like how you happily skip past the parts where I don't believe you because of the repeated falsehoods you've posted, the simple fix that would remedy your situation (if we pretend you're telling the truth) and the fact that your republican heroes are only going to make it worse to simply repeat you "tale of woe". good job.

I don't expect you to believe anyone on the other side of the aisle. I'm merely showing everyone how partisan you are, not that they couldn't easily figure it out for themselves.
 
I don't expect you to believe anyone on the other side of the aisle. I'm merely showing everyone how partisan you are, not that they couldn't easily figure it out for themselves.

MR, you have posted falsehood after falsehood in your replies to me. Maybe you are part of the small group of people who didn't benefit from Obamacare but I simply don't believe you. And notice how you choose to whine about me instead of addressing your incessant falsehoods, the simple fix to the situation you claim to be in or the fact that your situation only gets worse under Trumpcare. I'm sure "whine about Vern" posts make you feel better but they only prove you're not here to have an honest and intelligent discussion as if we didn't already know.
 
MR, you have posted falsehood after falsehood in your replies to me. Maybe you are part of the small group of people who didn't benefit from Obamacare but I simply don't believe you. And notice how you choose to whine about me instead of addressing your incessant falsehoods, the simple fix to the situation you claim to be in or the fact that your situation only gets worse under Trumpcare. I'm sure "whine about Vern" posts make you feel better but they only prove you're not here to have an honest and intelligent discussion as if we didn't already know.

Vernie, you are full of nothing but falsehoods. That's all you know.
 
8 People Who Owe Their Lives to Obamacare


Here are their heartbreaking stories.


President Donald Trump has vowed to dismantle the Affordable Care Act (ACA) — a move that could leave some 30 million Americans without health insurance. ACA literally sustains millions of lives . Without the health insurance it provides, many people wouldn't have access to medicine and procedures that they need to survive. When we asked people on Twitter and through healthcare advocacy organizations to share their stories of how ACA keeps them alive, we were overwhelmed with responses. We heard from people waiting for organ transplants, from cancer survivors, from people with debilitating mental illness, and more. They told us about the toll that disease has taken on their lives: Before the ACA, some were forced to skip treatments because of the price; others couldn't get insurance at all because they were already sick. Here are a few of their stories.



Claudette Williams, 58, Orlando, Florida: I lost my job in 2005. After that I decided to purchase a policy. I found them online. They had a gentleman come to my house, and we talked about my blood pressure medications. The insurance was almost twice what they had quoted me because of the medication, and also because of my condition. I eventually couldn't afford it any more. I was uninsured, except for one year when I qualified for Medicaid. I ended up in the emergency room on a few occasions for heart trouble. I also developed diabetes. I couldn't afford to have regular mammograms. In 2014 I signed up for Obamacare. I was diagnosed with breast cancer in September of last year. The lumpectomy alone was billed at $40,000. I have four more chemo sessions to go, and after that, I have to do radiation. Luckily my cancer is only a stage one, so my prognosis is pretty good. But it is really scary thinking about my insurance being taken away. This is a fight for my life.



Charis Hill, 30, California: When I was 25, in 2012, I had a series of unexplained and undiagnosable respiratory challenges that felt like the flu or bronchitis or pneumonia. Doctors just couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. My condition got worse and worse. I visited urgent care a few times. I thought I was having a heart attack once. They tried to blame it on anxiety.

Eventually reached out to my dad, who was estranged from me. I knew that he had a severe health condition. The first words out of his mouth were, it sounds like you have what I have, which is ankylosing spondylitis (AS). I knew that I would need health insurance to be treated. But if I were to get a diagnosis before getting health insurance, I would have the preexisting condition working against me. So I got the cheapest plan that existed. I wasn't getting all the tests done or getting all the treatments. Then, ten months later, the ACA was implemented, and because of my income, I was eligible for a subsidy to purchase health insurance on the exchange in California. I got a better plan for less than I was paying before, which meant that I could access more treatment and not skip medication.

See the faces of real Americans ... not just a Political Party.
8 People Who Owe Their Lives to Obamacare | Mother Jones

Obama care is just a shuffling of who pays. Rather than go the the ER as indigent or sign a promise to pay that won't get paid, obama created a giant redistribution scheme from the middle class who are paying for their plans to low income people with subsidized plans.

It's simple. "I'm subsidized = it's a great plan".
 
Actually I looked at this site Health Insurance Cost Calculator from WebMD and found that my premium for a family of four would currently be almost $27,000 for a silver plan and that doesn't even include deductibles and out of pocket expenses, which would add about another $6500 on top of that, for a total of $33,500.

It is entertaining to watch a right winger complain about high deductibles, premiums, and out of pocket expenses while the right wingers in Congress are pushing a plan that increases deductible, premiums and out of pocket expenses and the plan he is criticizing put limits on all three when there were no limits before ACA

There is no way around the fact that, when it comes to deductibles, premiums and out of pocket costs, ACA beats what came before and what will come afterwards.
 
Obama care is just a shuffling of who pays. Rather than go the the ER as indigent or sign a promise to pay that won't get paid, obama created a giant redistribution scheme from the middle class who are paying for their plans to low income people with subsidized plans.

It's simple. "I'm subsidized = it's a great plan".

One of the biggest problems with Obamacare was that it did absolutely nothing to control health care costs. The more costs rose, the more subsidies you get. Great for the poorer but the middle class got screwed right up the ass.
 
One of the biggest problems with Obamacare was that it did absolutely nothing to control health care costs. The more costs rose, the more subsidies you get. Great for the poorer but the middle class got screwed right up the ass.

The middle class subsidies also increased as costs rose, but please do not let the facts stop you from spewing your inane lies
 
One of the biggest problems with Obamacare was that it did absolutely nothing to control health care costs. The more costs rose, the more subsidies you get. Great for the poorer but the middle class got screwed right up the ass.
actually the middle class benefits too MR. I know what would help, tell us your definition of middle class. thanks in advance.
 
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