• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino resident

Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino resident may get deported


View attachment 67214525

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/...&gwh=268F0246B42775C5710649A4D0A69CE8&gwt=pay


Sometimes you get what you Voted for ... enjoy ... more to come. :2wave:

Criminals are often molto simpatico and well liked by the unknowing neighbours. Does this mean the crime is not a crime or should not be punished?
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Immigration officials noted that Mr. Hernandez had two drunken-driving convictions from 2007, a circumstance that could make him a higher priority for deportation. Friends of his say he crossed into the United States from Mexico in the late 1990s and had started but never completed efforts to legalize his status.

These are exactly the people who they are targeting.
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Criminals are often molto simpatico and well liked by the unknowing neighbours. Does this mean the crime is not a crime or should not be punished?



I personally hope The Grabber does "everything" he promised ... after all, his supporters deserve nothing less. ;)
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino resident may get deported


View attachment 67214525

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/...&gwh=268F0246B42775C5710649A4D0A69CE8&gwt=pay


Sometimes you get what you Voted for ... enjoy ... more to come. :2wave:

Why is the opposition always so gleeful when a glitch happens? People who use anomalies like this to further divide us don't really care about our country. They only care about showing up the other side. And yelling, "I told you so, you jerks!"

Well done.

One would hope that this town can rally together and help this man. But their sadness over his surprising status doesn't mean they don't want jobs and regret their votes for Trump.

By the way, he was a pretty young man when he got his two drunk driving convictions, which perhaps cuts him so some slack. Did he kill anyone? Injure anyone? Did he have accidents while DUI? Was he insured? Did he have a license? Just wondering...
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Pettiness is thin and pours easily Maggie, the truth is much more viscous pours slowly.
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

I personally hope The Grabber does "everything" he promised ... after all, his supporters deserve nothing less. ;)

And those that didn't come out against him or failed to persuade their voters it was important.
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Criminals are often molto simpatico and well liked by the unknowing neighbours. Does this mean the crime is not a crime or should not be punished?

Doesn't mean deportation is the proper punishment. Few Judges impose the maximum penalty on otherwise well behaved people. Get tough on the undocumented folks who break non-immigration laws.

Not sympathy, more like practicality... :peace
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Doesn't mean deportation is the proper punishment. Few Judges impose the maximum penalty on otherwise well behaved people. Get tough on the undocumented folks who break non-immigration laws.

Not sympathy, more like practicality... :peace

Nope. It doesn't mean that it would not be better to fine illegals $ 10.000 and let them stay.
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

And those that didn't come out against him or failed to persuade their voters it was important.

Nothing more important the breathing ... kiss the Clear Air act good-by and The EPA.

But enjoy those Coal Mining Job coming back any day now ... hold your breath :2razz:
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Hernandez has two dxrunk driving convictions so he is not a model citizen and deserves to be deported
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

I personally hope The Grabber does "everything" he promised ... after all, his supporters deserve nothing less. ;)

We all do.
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

The old adage about be careful what you wish for comes to mind with this story.
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino resident may get deported


View attachment 67214525

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/...&gwh=268F0246B42775C5710649A4D0A69CE8&gwt=pay


Sometimes you get what you Voted for ... enjoy ... more to come. :2wave:

Am I supposed to feel sympathy for Carlos or the townspeople? Because I don't. He had lots of chances to be here in the US legally. He failed on all counts. Tell me, what was he using for ID? Forged or stolen documents?
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Hernandez has two dxrunk driving convictions so he is not a model citizen and deserves to be deported

I'm sure if The Fraternal Order of Police, The National Police Chief Association, Mother Against Drunk Drivers and The National Layers Association complied their list of most dangerous and habitual Drunk Divers ... we'd not be surprised where our Priority Reside.

:lamo
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

I'm sure if The Fraternal Order of Police, The National Police Chief Association, Mother Against Drunk Drivers and The National Layers Association complied their list of most dangerous and habitual Drunk Divers ... we'd not be surprised where our Priority Reside.

:lamo


I'd like to see that list and deport all the non citizens who are on it
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

I'd like to see that list and deport all the non citizens who are on it

I'd like to see that list and jail all those who deserve it ... but hey, we have different priorities, I drive the highways.
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

I'd like to see that list and jail all those who deserve it ... but hey, we have different priorities, I drive the highways.

I dont mind that either

But its bleeding heart liberals who have always been soft on crime

Why the sudden change?
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

for those who refuse to read a link to the "failing" NYTimes, a few more words from the article

Juan Carlos Hernandez Pacheco — just Carlos to the people of West Frankfort — has been the manager of La Fiesta, a Mexican restaurant in this city of 8,000, for a decade. Yes, he always greeted people warmly at the cheerfully decorated restaurant, known for its beef and chicken fajitas. And, yes, he knew their children by name. But people here tick off more things they know Carlos for.

How one night last fall, when the Fire Department was battling a two-alarm blaze, Mr. Hernandez suddenly appeared with meals for the firefighters. How he hosted a Law Enforcement Appreciation Day at the restaurant last summer as police officers were facing criticism around the country. How he took part in just about every community committee or charity effort — the Rotary Club, cancer fund-raisers, cleanup days, even scholarships for the Redbirds, the high school sports teams, which are the pride of this city.

“I think people need to do things the right way, follow the rules and obey the laws, and I firmly believe in that,” said Lori Barron, the owner of Lori’s Hair A’Fairs, a beauty salon. “But in the case of Carlos, I think he may have done more for the people here than this place has ever given him. I think it’s absolutely terrible that he could be taken away.”
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Immigration officials noted that Mr. Hernandez had two drunken-driving convictions from 2007, a circumstance that could make him a higher priority for deportation. Friends of his say he crossed into the United States from Mexico in the late 1990s and had started but never completed efforts to legalize his status.
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Immigration officials noted that Mr. Hernandez had two drunken-driving convictions from 2007, a circumstance that could make him a higher priority for deportation. Friends of his say he crossed into the United States from Mexico in the late 1990s and had started but never completed efforts to legalize his status.

He should have been deported in 2007 but bush and obama failed to do so
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Why is the opposition always so gleeful when a glitch happens? People who use anomalies like this to further divide us don't really care about our country. They only care about showing up the other side. And yelling, "I told you so, you jerks!"

Well done.

One would hope that this town can rally together and help this man. But their sadness over his surprising status doesn't mean they don't want jobs and regret their votes for Trump.

By the way, he was a pretty young man when he got his two drunk driving convictions, which perhaps cuts him so some slack. Did he kill anyone? Injure anyone? Did he have accidents while DUI? Was he insured? Did he have a license? Just wondering...

This runs counter to your usual "law-and-order" attitude.
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

This runs counter to your usual "law-and-order" attitude.

And mine.

He is an illegal alien with two serious criminal convictions and should been outta here 10 years ago
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Why is the opposition always so gleeful when a glitch happens? People who use anomalies like this to further divide us don't really care about our country. They only care about showing up the other side. And yelling, "I told you so, you jerks!"

Well done.

One would hope that this town can rally together and help this man. But their sadness over his surprising status doesn't mean they don't want jobs and regret their votes for Trump.

By the way, he was a pretty young man when he got his two drunk driving convictions, which perhaps cuts him so some slack. Did he kill anyone? Injure anyone? Did he have accidents while DUI? Was he insured? Did he have a license? Just wondering...

It says 'convictions' but, did he serve time, pay restitution, skip out of Missouri, what?
 
Re: Coal town that voted overwhelmingly for Trump - upset that longtime Latino reside

Nothing more important the breathing ... kiss the Clear Air act good-by and The EPA.

But enjoy those Coal Mining Job coming back any day now ... hold your breath :2razz:

Oh look - hyperbole... Such a surprise!!! :roll:
 
Back
Top Bottom