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Just watched the Trump speech at CPAC and 90% of it - maybe more - is the same old same old campaign rhetoric that we have heard more times than can be calculated..... and the election was four month back and has long been gone with the wind.

Can anybody remember any president in the last seventy years who still was giving their basic campaign speech four months later and basically it is all they do when speaking to the public in these sort of appearances?

And why is Trump stuck in campaign mode and fails to make the pivot to presidential speeches?
 
haymarket said:
Just watched the Trump speech at CPAC and 90% of it - maybe more - is the same old same old campaign rhetoric that we have heard more times than can be calculated..... and the election was four month back and has long been gone with the wind.

Can anybody remember any president in the last seventy years who still was giving their basic campaign speech four months later and basically it is all they do when speaking to the public in these sort of appearances?

And why is Trump stuck in campaign mode and fails to make the pivot to presidential speeches?
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Do you expect him to change his message or his platform? If he did you would go nuts complaining about it. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe you are just so used to having a candidate that has two positions and pivots as fast as she has to depending on who she is talking to. Would that make it more palatable for you?
 
NonoBadDog said:
Do you expect him to change his message or his platform? If he did you would go nuts complaining about it. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe you are just so used to having a candidate that has two positions and pivots as fast as she has to depending on who she is talking to. Would that make it more palatable for you?
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I expect him to quite making campaign speeches as his campaign ended nearly four months ago.
 
haymarket said:
Just watched the Trump speech at CPAC and 90% of it - maybe more - is the same old same old campaign rhetoric that we have heard more times than can be calculated..... and the election was four month back and has long been gone with the wind.

Can anybody remember any president in the last seventy years who still was giving their basic campaign speech four months later and basically it is all they do when speaking to the public in these sort of appearances?

And why is Trump stuck in campaign mode and fails to make the pivot to presidential speeches?
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Maybe he saw how successful this strategy was when employed by Obama.

If Trump is anything, he is a quick political learner.

Ask any of the folks whose opposition he beat during the primaries and the Presidential race. The list includes about 95% of the elected officials in Washington and about the same percent in the media.

I watched the speech, too. Again, it was a broad stroke rendering of a direction that he wants to take. Jobs, security, border integrity, law and order and beware of what you read in the press.

In my life, I need my job, like security, appreciate border integrity, need law and order and have been wary of the insidiously deceitful slants of the news media for years.

Maybe he'll cut a new record when the Hits don't create the standing O's.
 
haymarket said:
I expect him to quite making campaign speeches as his campaign ended nearly four months ago.
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Out of curiosity, did you EVER post this complaint about Obama over the 8 years of ongoing campaign speeches from him?
 
If Trump "inherited a mess".....

 
haymarket said:
Just watched the Trump speech at CPAC and 90% of it - maybe more - is the same old same old campaign rhetoric that we have heard more times than can be calculated..... and the election was four month back and has long been gone with the wind.

Can anybody remember any president in the last seventy years who still was giving their basic campaign speech four months later and basically it is all they do when speaking to the public in these sort of appearances?

And why is Trump stuck in campaign mode and fails to make the pivot to presidential speeches?
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I'm not sure he really likes being president. He definitely likes campaigning. That is pretty common with presidents I think. I agree that he would do well to drop it. Personally, I'm tired about hearing about PA, WI and OH. As long as he keeps doing what he said he would do then I'm willing to ignore what he says.
 
code1211 said:
Out of curiosity, did you EVER post this complaint about Obama over the 8 years of ongoing campaign speeches from him?
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I honestly do not recall Obama making more or less the same stump campaign speech for 8 years. Can you present some evidence of this please?
 
code1211 said:
Out of curiosity, did you EVER post this complaint about Obama over the 8 years of ongoing campaign speeches from him?
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I don't recall anyone ever making that complaint about him before you just did.
 
haymarket said:
I honestly do not recall Obama making more or less the same stump campaign speech for 8 years. Can you present some evidence of this please?
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To refresh your memory, this is the post to which I responded:

"Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
I expect him to quite making campaign speeches as his campaign ended nearly four months ago."

Obama was in perpetual campaign mode for 8 years.

You made no reference to the same speech in this post.

I made no refernece to the same speech in my post.

Now, did you ever complain about Obama being in perpetual campaign mode?
 
Manc Skipper said:
I don't recall anyone ever making that complaint about him before you just did.
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It was not a complaint on my part.

The poster seemed to be complaining about something that both Trump and Obama have done.

I was wondering if the poster was annoyed by the practice he was complaining about or if he was only annoyed by Trump and complaining about something else.
 
code1211 said:
To refresh your memory, this is the post to which I responded:

"Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
I expect him to quite making campaign speeches as his campaign ended nearly four months ago."

Obama was in perpetual campaign mode for 8 years.

You made no reference to the same speech in this post.

I made no refernece to the same speech in my post.

Now, did you ever complain about Obama being in perpetual campaign mode?
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Please provide verifiable evidence that Obama was in a perpetual campaign mode and delivered more or less the same campaign speech after being elected as what my criticism of Trump stated quite clearly.
 
haymarket said:
Please provide verifiable evidence that Obama was in a perpetual campaign mode and delivered more or less the same campaign speech after being elected as what my criticism of Trump stated quite clearly.
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The post I responded to made no mention of the content of the campaign speeches or the repetitive nature of same.

Obama was in constant campaign mode. If you missed it, I extend my most sincere congratulations on the recovery from your coma.

Do you recall him mentioning the ACA during his first term? Closing Gitmo? Abandoning Iraq? Any of this ringing a bell for you?

How about the unending political fund raising?

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-six-years-in-office/?utm_term=.d71ff61b39b9

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...lection-playbook-to-change-washington/272587/

Milbank: Obama embraces the permanent campaign - POLITICO

After 8 Years of Campaigner-in-Chief Obama, NPR Accuses Trump of 'Permanent Campaign' - Breitbart

Is Obama In Permanent Campaign Mode? - CBS News
 
code1211 said:
Obama was in constant campaign mode.
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That statement is so intentionally vague and broad that it has no meaning at all.

The reality still is what I said at the start - there is no evidence presented that any president in history continues to do what Trump has done - give basically the same campaign speech over and over and over and over and over again even though the election is behind him and we are months past that event.

go back to my OP

Can anybody remember any president in the last seventy years who still was giving their basic campaign speech four months later and basically it is all they do when speaking to the public in these sort of appearances?
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The issue is quite clear: no president can be shown to be doing what Trump is now doing giving the same basic campaign speech four months after the election has already been held.

You wanting to move the goal posts to this vague and undermined "campaign mode" is a sad attempt to change the issue before this thread.
 
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haymarket said:
Just watched the Trump speech at CPAC and 90% of it - maybe more - is the same old same old campaign rhetoric that we have heard more times than can be calculated..... and the election was four month back and has long been gone with the wind.

Can anybody remember any president in the last seventy years who still was giving their basic campaign speech four months later and basically it is all they do when speaking to the public in these sort of appearances?

And why is Trump stuck in campaign mode and fails to make the pivot to presidential speeches?
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we have all heard of a 'sore loser' but Trump has to be the sorest winner of any election, EVER

tRump does not have a single ounce of grace, or class within himself; he is a soulless & evil loser, even after winning ..........
 
cuban smokes said:
we have all heard of a 'sore loser' but Trump has to be the sorest winner of any election, EVER

tRump does not have a single ounce of grace, or class within himself; he is a soulless & evil loser, even after winning ..........
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And that valuable insight speaks to the mental state of the man and that mental state is severely disturbed.
 
haymarket said:
And that valuable insight speaks to the mental state of the man and that mental state is severely disturbed.
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and that ungraceful, classless, evil & soulless man has his finger on the button; oh boy ............
 
cuban smokes said:
and that ungraceful, classless, evil & soulless man has his finger on the button; oh boy ............
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Which is why thousands of mental health professionals have defied the Goldwater rule and come forth to publicly question the mans mental health by signing a public petition. The idea that the world could end today because a mentally ill narcissist can decide to do so is beyond scary. This man Trump poses the single greatest threat to the American people and the world we have seen since WW2.

Goldwater Rule: Psychiatrists fight over the ethics of diagnosing Trump - CNN.com

Certainly not all mental health professionals are following their associations' directives. Last week, 35 prominent mental health experts signed a letter of dissent to the New York Times. "We fear that too much is at stake to be silent any longer," the letter states. Trump's speech and actions show that he has an "inability to tolerate views different from his own, leading to rage reactions" in which he is unable to empathize, and he is "attacking facts and those who convey them."

The letter warns that Trump's attacks will probably increase and that the "grave emotional instability" shown by his actions and words "makes him incapable of serving safely as president." Among those signing the letter was Dr. Leonard Glass, a part-time associate professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and works as a senior attending psychiatrist at McLean Hospital in Belmont, Massachusetts. Generally, he believes, there is merit to the Goldwater Rule. It keeps members "from using their professional standing and their credentials and plausibility, to expound about figures in an ill-informed way." But in this case, he doesn't see anything wrong with professionals sharing their opinions, which don't require a specific diagnosis, especially in this "extraordinarily unprecedented situation."
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This is fast approaching a national if not world crisis.
 
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haymarket said:
Which is why thousands of mental health professionals have defied the Goldwater rule and come forth to publicly question the mans mental health by signing a public petition. The idea that the world could end today because a mentally ill narcissist can decide to do so is beyond scary. This man Trump poses the single greatest threat to the American people and the world we have seen since WW2.

Goldwater Rule: Psychiatrists fight over the ethics of diagnosing Trump - CNN.com


This is fast approaching a national if not world crisis.
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years ago I knew tRump was a mental basket case & I warned people about this evil man.
thing is tRump was not president then; now he is.

the article you posted suggest that tRump may be the enemy of the American people & not the press as tRump has claimed.
there is a case of the pot (tRump) calling the kettle black ............
if tRump is allowed to stay in office long enuff two things will occur; (1) the economy will crash followed by (2) a massive global war
 
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haymarket said:
That statement is so intentionally vague and broad that it has no meaning at all.

The reality still is what I said at the start - there is no evidence presented that any president in history continues to do what Trump has done - give basically the same campaign speech over and over and over and over and over again even though the election is behind him and we are months past that event.

go back to my OP



The issue is quite clear: no president can be shown to be doing what Trump is now doing giving the same basic campaign speech four months after the election has already been held.

You wanting to move the goal posts to this vague and undermined "campaign mode" is a sad attempt to change the issue before this thread.
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Did you look at any of the links?

How could you possibly not notice the continuing, unrelenting campaign mode of the Obama administration?

Did you actually cover your eyes and ears for the 8 years Obama was in office?

This is an astonishing! A possible help for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness

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Inattentional blindness, also known as perceptual blindness, is a psychological lack of attention that is not associated with any vision defects or deficits. It may be further defined as the event in which an individual fails to recognize an unexpected stimulus that is in plain sight. When it simply becomes impossible for one to attend to all the stimuli in a given situation, a temporary blindness effect can take place as a result; that is, individuals fail to see objects or stimuli that are unexpected and quite often salient.[1]
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code1211 said:
Did you look at any of the links?

How could you possibly not notice the continuing, unrelenting campaign mode of the Obama administration?
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That charge is so vague and non specific as it could apply to ANY president... and because of that is meaningless.
 
haymarket said:
That charge is so vague and non specific as it could apply to ANY president... and because of that is meaningless.
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Then why did you level it at Trump?
 
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