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The Gay Right Wing Hero

Josie said:
Oh, I'm sure it does to you.
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Come to think of it, don't you Righties also worship at the feet of Rupert Murdoch? The Right must have a fetish for being led by non Americans.
 
chromium said:
Lol 5 years ago he would've been loathed and rejected at every turn by the right wing *because* he's gay, and you accuse the left of identity politics? We're talking about a crowd that booed a gay soldier at the republican debate
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I cannot speak for all people on the right. But I believe this attitude shows a deep misunderstanding of many of us who share Milo Yiannopoulos' beliefs and values. Many people on the right are more concerned about the content of one's character than the choices they make or natural inclinations they may have for sexuality. I assume that many on the left do not believe that this is the right's motivation. They believe that it is the right's excuse for being bigoted. I believe the former. Many on the right really are motivated by the desire to find a common ground in ideology regardless of race religion culture Etc.
 
calamity said:
I'm not even sure that matters. He's a foreign national, non-resident alien stirring up crap in my country. I believe we have every right in the world to prevent such a person from public speaking.
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It's all that matters. If what he has to say is such a threat to you that you need to defer to his alien status to shut him up, then that makes you look worse than he does.

Better to just debunk the non-sense he talks about, which is easily done.
 
cAPSLOCK said:
I cannot speak for all people on the right. But I believe this attitude shows a deep misunderstanding of many of us who share Milo Yiannopoulos' beliefs and values. Many people on the right are more concerned about the content of one's character than the choices they make or natural inclinations they may have for sexuality. I assume that many on the left do not believe that this is the right's motivation. They believe that it is the right's excuse for being bigoted. I believe the former. Many on the right really are motivated by the desire to find a common ground in ideology regardless of race religion culture Etc.
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Thanks for a reasonable post on this nasty, stupid thread. :(
 
Northern Light said:
It's all that matters. If what he has to say is such a threat to you that you need to defer to his alien status to shut him up, then that makes you look worse than he does.

Better to just debunk the non-sense he talks about, which is easily done.
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And yet no one ever does. :lol: Why do you think they protest when he comes to speak? Well, because they know his arguments are better than theirs.
 
chromium said:
Um you just described Rush Limbaugh and all the other talking head freaks just as much. Since all they do is spout opinions and opinions are like assholes, they fade to obscurity as the next, slightly younger loudmouth takes the stage. They're just out to make $ off fools
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I don't disagree.
 
One reason this is so hard for the left to understand is it disproves the constant narrative that the right is bigoted as a whole, or even in majority.

We are not.
 
Northern Light said:
It's all that matters. If what he has to say is such a threat to you that you need to defer to his alien status to shut him up, then that makes you look worse than he does.

Better to just debunk the non-sense he talks about, which is easily done.
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I'd rather declare him an enemy combatant and ship him off to GITMO.
 
calamity said:
Yep. He's a successful troll is all. But, IMO, there is something delicious about the anti-gay crowd suddenly fawning over an openly gay man who says what they want to hear.
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Nope just his right to say it and be heard. Why? Are you against that like so many others?
 
calamity said:
Yep. He's a successful troll is all. But, IMO, there is something delicious about the anti-gay crowd suddenly fawning over an openly gay man who says what they want to hear.
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What is this word 'troll' supposed to mean? It seems to be used as a synonym for "someone who's opinions I disagree with but either won't or can't refute".

Milo says a lot of things that need saying, particularly in conformist PC Sweden. No "anti gay crowd" here. Are you sure this 'crowd' may not be a figment of your imagination?
 
calamity said:
I'm not even sure that matters. He's a foreign national, non-resident alien stirring up crap in my country. I believe we have every right in the world to prevent such a person from public speaking.
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So there we have it: Your pretended love of free speech is a hollow sham. Just another authoritarian lefty who wants to ban anyone saying anything not approved of in his repellent creed. For my part I think foreigners, 'aliens' as you charmlessly call them, should be able to say anything they like in Sweden or my other country the UK.
 
Sweden said:
So there we have it: Your pretended love of free speech is a hollow sham. Just another authoritarian lefty who wants to ban anyone saying anything not approved of in his repellent creed. For my part I think foreigners, 'aliens' as you charmlessly call them, should be able to say anything they like in Sweden or my other country the UK.
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You're not an American.

Why should I care what you think about my country?
 
calamity said:
You're not an American.

Why should I care what you think about my country?
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I think the US is great. It's you I have a problem with.

I have a stake in the future of the US as I have two American grandsons. I would hate to see your country, and their's, turn into the kind of repressive state that you favour; one where anyone talking what you think is 'crap' must be silenced.
 
Sweden said:
I think the US is great. It's you I have a problem with.

I have a stake in the future of the US as I have two American grandsons. I would hate to see your country, and their's, turn into the kind of repressive state that you favour; one where anyone talking what you think is 'crap' must be silenced.
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Well, if they live here they can talk here. You not so much. If you want to talk here, live here.
 
calamity said:
Well, if they live here they can talk here. You not so much. If you want to talk here, live here.
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Now this is just silly. Sad too that an international has to explain to you what free speech is.
 
cAPSLOCK said:
I cannot speak for all people on the right. But I believe this attitude shows a deep misunderstanding of many of us who share Milo Yiannopoulos' beliefs and values. Many people on the right are more concerned about the content of one's character than the choices they make or natural inclinations they may have for sexuality. I assume that many on the left do not believe that this is the right's motivation. They believe that it is the right's excuse for being bigoted. I believe the former. Many on the right really are motivated by the desire to find a common ground in ideology regardless of race religion culture Etc.
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That makes some sense, although the right seems to often conflate one's "choices" and/or "natural inclinations they may have for sexuality" with whether they are decent people. MiloY would not make the cut per their standards, nor would Trump, but here we are. Seems to me that Trump's thin skin couldn't take Milo's troll act if it turned on him.

BTW, I'm thinking back to those "character counts" bumper stickers that were popular when Clinton was having an affair with a consenting adult intern. And Rush and Newt who were castigating him for it were a) midway though a run of 4 divorces or, b) screwing around his wife with the wives of "friends".

I'm with MY on PC and some other minor issues, but he's a troll. IMO, trolls add no value. It's like the right fell in love with something that has all the substance of "LOL cats".
 
cAPSLOCK said:
I cannot speak for all people on the right. But I believe this attitude shows a deep misunderstanding of many of us who share Milo Yiannopoulos' beliefs and values. Many people on the right are more concerned about the content of one's character than the choices they make or natural inclinations they may have for sexuality. I assume that many on the left do not believe that this is the right's motivation. They believe that it is the right's excuse for being bigoted. I believe the former. Many on the right really are motivated by the desire to find a common ground in ideology regardless of race religion culture Etc.
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I'm aware, it's just that to the right until very recently (and still largely so), being gay is in fact a blight on the "content of one's character" and reflects one's "belief and values"

If the right wing weren't ever guilty of identity politics the gay marriage and bathroom ballots would never have happened
 
chromium said:
I'm aware, it's just that to the right until very recently (and still largely so), being gay is in fact a blight on the "content of one's character" and reflects one's "belief and values"

If the right wing weren't ever guilty of identity politics the gay marriage and bathroom ballots would never have happened
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Which is irrelevant to the right of a gay person to have free speech. I don't care what he's saying, he has the right to say it and people do not have the right to use violence and rioting to chill his rights. Its fascism and you know it.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Which is irrelevant to the right of a gay person to have free speech. I don't care what he's saying, he has the right to say it and people do not have the right to use violence and rioting to chill his rights. Its fascism and you know it.
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Oh is that why they booed the gay soldier? Is that why Trump supporters attacked critics at his rallies with his urging? Is that why he has nothing to say when Liberty U suppresses the speech of non religious fanatics?

You and Trump and none of the right wing are upset that a gay person, a foreigner with no ties to the school no less, couldn't speak at Berkeley. You're upset because Berkeley is liberal and you could never dream to get in there. You'd be pissed at Berkeley no matter what, and so i don't see why it should give a damn now

Trump is as fascist as they come. That's why he threatens a college of 30,000 over the actions of an anarchist group that almost certainly has nothing to do with anyone there. That's why he builds walls and demands sweeping travel bans and has the equivalence of a state media that he leeks info to first
 
calamity said:
Well, if they live here they can talk here. You not so much. If you want to talk here, live here.
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Are you suggesting that only US citizens should be permitted to post on Debate Politics? And that they should be forbidden to comment on anything outside the US?
 
calamity said:
And, that's a win for Milo and maybe everyone else as well.
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Only if you didn't actually watch the show. Milo was annihilated by Larry Wilmore, dismissed by Maher and exposed as nothing more than a troll by Malcolm Nance. I guess there might be a few teen-Nazis who thought he held his own, but I'd be interested in how you think he did so.
 
One day Milo will rip off the mask and we will find out it was just Ann Coulter underneath it the whole time.
 
Andalublue said:
Only if you didn't actually watch the show. Milo was annihilated by Larry Wilmore, dismissed by Maher and exposed as nothing more than a troll by Malcolm Nance. I guess there might be a few teen-Nazis who thought he held his own, but I'd be interested in how you think he did so.
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When Malcolm Nance claimed Stephen Miller was a baby Goebbels, he vaporized any objective credibility he was trying to pretend he had.

Same goes to the Fascists who say agree with what we say, or be called a teen-Nazi.
 
There are numerous reasons as to why Milo is trash (along with all of the other people who voted "cancer" in his poll.)

Just one of them.

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