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Republicans continue pushing their voting scams

DifferentDrummr said:
You won't live long enough for it to make a difference, regardless of how young you are. :mrgreen:

How many fraud cases would it take in even one presidential election to actually change the result? Tens of thousands, minimum. As I said, too rare to make a difference (in the outcomes).
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Nope - it takes exactly one fraudulent vote to cancel (or double) my one vote.
 
Helix said:
thanks. now, perhaps you would like to respond to the rest of my post. you fully support expanding early voting and making sure that the process is organized well enough to prevent long lines, which are the equivalent of a poll tax for hourly workers, correct?
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First, what long lines are you talking about? Are you trying to say that showing your ID will take some extended period of time? And how did a long line turn into a poll tax? That's a stretch. And all polling precincts need to staff accordingly to be sure lines are not unduly long. That's nothing new and has nothing to do with voter ID. And I don't care how early someone votes as long as we can be sure they are legally entitled to do so. Boy, you people are really twisting yourselves into pretzels to avoid voter ID. I think I can guess the reason why. And as for addressing questions, you didn't answer any of mine????
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Which you and so many others here seem to love. You'll learn the hard way.
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We already learned the hard way for the last eight years. Now it's time for the left to learn the hard way. Maybe a hundred years from now we will be back to bipartisan cooperation instead of one side trying to shove their values down everyone else's throats.
 
"But research has shown that finding needles in haystacks are extremely rare"

journalism in America today
 
Moderate Right said:
We already learned the hard way for the last eight years. Now it's time for the left to learn the hard way. Maybe a hundred years from now we will be back to bipartisan cooperation instead of one side trying to shove their values down everyone else's throats.
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The left did not have one-party control for the last eight years, Mister Honesty.
 
Cvir said:
So now you're implying that there is voter fraud, but if it doesn't swing an election, why worry? Have you forgotten about the Florida hanging chad episode? Have you considered smaller precincts for judges or assemblyman where a handful of votes can make the difference in an election? Have you forgotten about the Michigan recount investigation last month that revealed more people voted than had registered? There have been cases where officials refused to bring fraud charges because they were leveled at their own party members. There is plenty of voter fraud out there and I think those who traditionally vote Democratic know that it's mostly Democrats involved and so don't see a problem. You have not provided any convincing argument against the need for voter ID laws and I think you've given it your best shot. I won't bore you with more fraud cases.
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Silly conservative. I never even tried to argue against ID proposals in the first place.
 
jimbo said:
Voting is a privilege extended to certain groups. It is not a requirement The major requirement to vote is citizen in good standing. If you are not eligible and vote, you violate and get 8 years. If you are eligible and don't vote, you get 4 years of somebody else's choice. Your choice. Not my problem.
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I see your point but the idea of my post was going in a different direction
 
Cvir said:
First, what long lines are you talking about?
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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/08/check-out-these-crazy-lines-of-voters-at-the-polls.html?slide=1

Cvir said:
Are you trying to say that showing your ID will take some extended period of time?
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and if you had actually read my post rather than responding to it reflexively, you would already know the answer.


Cvir said:
And how did a long line turn into a poll tax? That's a stretch.
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again, already explained.

Cvir said:
And all polling precincts need to staff accordingly to be sure lines are not unduly long. That's nothing new and has nothing to do with voter ID. And I don't care how early someone votes as long as we can be sure they are legally entitled to do so. Boy, you people are really twisting yourselves into pretzels to avoid voter ID. I think I can guess the reason why. And as for addressing questions, you didn't answer any of mine????
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if you can't be bothered to read the post before responding, then this is waste of my time.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
The left did not have one-party control for the last eight years, Mister Honesty.
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While you have a small point, you fail to appreciate the scope of the rejection of the Democratic party by the voters over the last six years. There is a lesson to be learned there but so far the left has not learned it. Instead of changing, they are solely relying on a Trump failure as their strategy.
 
Moderate Right said:
While you have a small point, you fail to appreciate the scope of the rejection of the Democratic party by the voters over the last six years. There is a lesson to be learned there but so far the left has not learned it. Instead of changing, they are solely relying on a Trump failure as their strategy.
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The heap of those who failed with that strategy is large, "BUT THIS TIME IT IS GOING TO WORK!"

I guess it depends on how much the elite are willing to sabotage our government.

Remembering that their lack of morality is a known problem.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Most conservatives would be perfectly happy to have a one-party system, as long as it's "their" party.
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That is probably true of all partisans. I'm not one of them.
 
Moderate Right said:
While you have a small point, you fail to appreciate the scope of the rejection of the Democratic party by the voters over the last six years. There is a lesson to be learned there but so far the left has not learned it. Instead of changing, they are solely relying on a Trump failure as their strategy.
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Nothing I've seen from you so far confirms that it's a rejection of the party per se, or whether the voters have been making their decisions based on other factors.

But if you've got some evidence along those lines, by all means post it. . . .
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Nothing I've seen from you so far confirms that it's a rejection of the party per se, or whether the voters have been making their decisions based on other factors.

But if you've got some evidence along those lines, by all means post it. . . .
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Evidence? Talk about having your head in the sand. What was the Congressional make up 7 years ago? How many Republican governors and state legislatures are there now?
 
Moderate Right said:
Evidence? Talk about having your head in the sand. What was the Congressional make up 7 years ago? How many Republican governors and state legislatures are there now?
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Again, you're putting the cart before the horse. I'll explain it one more time.

Are you absolutely sure that everybody who switched to voting Republican in the past 6 years did so because they soured on the Democrats? Or did they do so for other reasons?
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Again, you're putting the cart before the horse. I'll explain it one more time.

Are you absolutely sure that everybody who switched to voting Republican in the past 6 years did so because they soured on the Democrats? Or did they do so for other reasons?
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Please enlighten me on these other reasons.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Again, you're putting the cart before the horse. I'll explain it one more time.

Are you absolutely sure that everybody who switched to voting Republican in the past 6 years did so because they soured on the Democrats? Or did they do so for other reasons?
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Please enlighten me as to the other reasons. I was just stating a fact that the Democrats have been in quicksand for six years now. Does it really make that much of a difference how they got in the quicksand?
 
Moderate Right said:
Please enlighten me as to the other reasons. I was just stating a fact that the Democrats have been in quicksand for six years now. Does it really make that much of a difference how they got in the quicksand?
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I think it makes a huge difference when it comes to how and when they emerge from their troubles.
 
Moderate Right said:
You talk in riddles. Please expand.
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Let's suppose that the analysts who work for the Democrats get a much clearer picture of the previous years' trend than their counterparts for the Republicans have. That puts the Democrats' strategists in a much stronger position for turning things around. And if the opposite were the case, the Republicans would be better positioned to hold onto power longer. It's how the game has been played for quite some time, now.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Let's suppose that the analysts who work for the Democrats get a much clearer picture of the previous years' trend than their counterparts for the Republicans have. That puts the Democrats' strategists in a much stronger position for turning things around. And if the opposite were the case, the Republicans would be better positioned to hold onto power longer. It's how the game has been played for quite some time, now.
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Do you think that the left has learned to be more tolerant of the right and not to call them names?
 
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