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The fundamental problem with conservatives

MrWonka

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It seems like I'm finding that so many of the disagreements that we have in the United States today break down along the same exact lines. Conservatives fail to grasp the incredibly enormous distinction between knocking someone off their high horse, and stomping them into the ground. The difference between taking someone down a peg, and kicking them when they are already on the ground. One is not only acceptably, but often times very necessary, the other is absolutely abhorrent. What at a cursory glance may seem like the same actions, tactics, or behaviors are judged radically differently depending on who is using them against who.

That doesn't mean it's a double standard it means that when you are in a position of power over someone you cannot blame them for using whatever means are at their disposal to defend themselves, but when you are the one who is dominating another person in every conceivable way to use cheap shots in order to further your dominance is completely out of line.

Conservatives simply cannot grasp this reality. In their minds letting their opponents stand up is equivalent to being knocked down themselves. Worse yet their opponent isn't even trying to fight them, it simply wants to stand up. They assume that if their opponent gets to equal footing with them then they will start doing the same things to them that they have been doing to their opponent for decades.

White Christian Men in our society have grown so accustom to their position of dominance that anything less than dominance over others is seen as an injury to them. How does one overcome this mental block and get through to these people?
 
The fundamental problem with liberals - they all generalize. And all generalizations are bad.

(I'm also guessing a vast majority of them are immune to sarcasm.)
 
Are these by chance the same white Christian men that first immigrated to America and successfully created the most free and prosperous civilization of all time?

Or did you just write a block of text about inequality to just then finish it with a broad generalization and kick an entire demographic in the teeth.
 
It seems like I'm finding that so many of the disagreements that we have in the United States today break down along the same exact lines. Conservatives fail to grasp the incredibly enormous distinction between knocking someone off their high horse, and stomping them into the ground. The difference between taking someone down a peg, and kicking them when they are already on the ground. One is not only acceptably, but often times very necessary, the other is absolutely abhorrent. What at a cursory glance may seem like the same actions, tactics, or behaviors are judged radically differently depending on who is using them against who.

That doesn't mean it's a double standard it means that when you are in a position of power over someone you cannot blame them for using whatever means are at their disposal to defend themselves, but when you are the one who is dominating another person in every conceivable way to use cheap shots in order to further your dominance is completely out of line.

Conservatives simply cannot grasp this reality. In their minds letting their opponents stand up is equivalent to being knocked down themselves. Worse yet their opponent isn't even trying to fight them, it simply wants to stand up. They assume that if their opponent gets to equal footing with them then they will start doing the same things to them that they have been doing to their opponent for decades.

White Christian Men in our society have grown so accustom to their position of dominance that anything less than dominance over others is seen as an injury to them. How does one overcome this mental block and get through to these people?

Or, just maybe, the white, Christian men aren't really anyone's "opponent" but they are getting a little pissed that some lunatic is running around the living room screaming about oppression while hogging the TV remote.
 
It seems like I'm finding that so many of the disagreements that we have in the United States today break down along the same exact lines. Conservatives fail to grasp the incredibly enormous distinction between knocking someone off their high horse, and stomping them into the ground. The difference between taking someone down a peg, and kicking them when they are already on the ground. One is not only acceptably, but often times very necessary, the other is absolutely abhorrent. What at a cursory glance may seem like the same actions, tactics, or behaviors are judged radically differently depending on who is using them against who.

That doesn't mean it's a double standard it means that when you are in a position of power over someone you cannot blame them for using whatever means are at their disposal to defend themselves, but when you are the one who is dominating another person in every conceivable way to use cheap shots in order to further your dominance is completely out of line.

Conservatives simply cannot grasp this reality. In their minds letting their opponents stand up is equivalent to being knocked down themselves. Worse yet their opponent isn't even trying to fight them, it simply wants to stand up. They assume that if their opponent gets to equal footing with them then they will start doing the same things to them that they have been doing to their opponent for decades.

White Christian Men in our society have grown so accustom to their position of dominance that anything less than dominance over others is seen as an injury to them. How does one overcome this mental block and get through to these people?

It is unwise to generalize (hey, that rhymed).
 
The fundamental problem with liberals - they all generalize. And all generalizations are bad.

(I'm also guessing a vast majority of them are immune to sarcasm.)

By the bespectacled prophet! You've got something there!
 
Are these by chance the same white Christian men that first immigrated to America and successfully created the most free and prosperous civilization of all time?

Or did you just write a block of text about inequality to just then finish it with a broad generalization and kick an entire demographic in the teeth.

Yeah, them

Liberals think its time for minorities and guilt-ridden whites like themselves to take over because prosperity is not everything
 
It seems like I'm finding that so many of the disagreements that we have in the United States today break down along the same exact lines. Conservatives fail to grasp the incredibly enormous distinction between knocking someone off their high horse, and stomping them into the ground. The difference between taking someone down a peg, and kicking them when they are already on the ground. One is not only acceptably, but often times very necessary, the other is absolutely abhorrent. What at a cursory glance may seem like the same actions, tactics, or behaviors are judged radically differently depending on who is using them against who.

That doesn't mean it's a double standard it means that when you are in a position of power over someone you cannot blame them for using whatever means are at their disposal to defend themselves, but when you are the one who is dominating another person in every conceivable way to use cheap shots in order to further your dominance is completely out of line.

Conservatives simply cannot grasp this reality. In their minds letting their opponents stand up is equivalent to being knocked down themselves. Worse yet their opponent isn't even trying to fight them, it simply wants to stand up. They assume that if their opponent gets to equal footing with them then they will start doing the same things to them that they have been doing to their opponent for decades.

White Christian Men in our society have grown so accustom to their position of dominance that anything less than dominance over others is seen as an injury to them. How does one overcome this mental block and get through to these people?

Lol !! As a proud Conservative I can tell you we did very little to " knock down " the Democratic party a peg. They did most of the damage all by themselves. Since 2010. the Democrats have lost over a thousand seats, 12 Governorships, the House, the Senate and finally the Presidency.

Since one of the best ways to grow the Conservative base is to subject as many people as possible to the consequences of the Liberal agenda, these losses cannot be blamed solely on Conservatives. Here's a suggestion for Libs, think before you elect another Jr Senator with a radical Leftist community organizer past and a messianic complex to be your next leader.

And no, if we actually had any control over the Left getting back to its feet we wouldn't let them, but we dont. When the Democratic party is the minority they sure like to bring up the importance and necessity of bi-partisanship, the need for the GOP to reach across the isle. But when they're in the majority the GOP can get in the back of the bus and their input will only be considered if it aligns with the opinions of the Democrats

Liberal posters on this very forum were bragging about the GOP's eventual demise, that the party was aging and would be gone in its entirely. The Left has no intention of working with the other side, no intention of letting their opponents get back on their feet, so Conservatives should do the same
 
It seems like I'm finding that so many of the disagreements that we have in the United States today break down along the same exact lines. Conservatives fail to grasp the incredibly enormous distinction between knocking someone off their high horse, and stomping them into the ground. The difference between taking someone down a peg, and kicking them when they are already on the ground. One is not only acceptably, but often times very necessary, the other is absolutely abhorrent. What at a cursory glance may seem like the same actions, tactics, or behaviors are judged radically differently depending on who is using them against who.

That doesn't mean it's a double standard it means that when you are in a position of power over someone you cannot blame them for using whatever means are at their disposal to defend themselves, but when you are the one who is dominating another person in every conceivable way to use cheap shots in order to further your dominance is completely out of line.

Conservatives simply cannot grasp this reality. In their minds letting their opponents stand up is equivalent to being knocked down themselves. Worse yet their opponent isn't even trying to fight them, it simply wants to stand up. They assume that if their opponent gets to equal footing with them then they will start doing the same things to them that they have been doing to their opponent for decades.

White Christian Men in our society have grown so accustom to their position of dominance that anything less than dominance over others is seen as an injury to them. How does one overcome this mental block and get through to these people?

And this is why the Liberals are losing elections.
 
White Christian Men in our society have grown so accustom to their position of dominance that anything less than dominance over others is seen as an injury to them. How does one overcome this mental block and get through to these people?

Oh my! I am a Christian man, but I am not white. Do you have an over generalized category for this conservative? Or does two out of three still let me in the club.

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It seems like I'm finding that so many of the disagreements that we have in the United States today break down along the same exact lines. Conservatives fail to grasp the incredibly enormous distinction between knocking someone off their high horse, and stomping them into the ground. The difference between taking someone down a peg, and kicking them when they are already on the ground. One is not only acceptably, but often times very necessary, the other is absolutely abhorrent. What at a cursory glance may seem like the same actions, tactics, or behaviors are judged radically differently depending on who is using them against who.

That doesn't mean it's a double standard it means that when you are in a position of power over someone you cannot blame them for using whatever means are at their disposal to defend themselves, but when you are the one who is dominating another person in every conceivable way to use cheap shots in order to further your dominance is completely out of line.

Conservatives simply cannot grasp this reality. In their minds letting their opponents stand up is equivalent to being knocked down themselves. Worse yet their opponent isn't even trying to fight them, it simply wants to stand up. They assume that if their opponent gets to equal footing with them then they will start doing the same things to them that they have been doing to their opponent for decades.

White Christian Men in our society have grown so accustom to their position of dominance that anything less than dominance over others is seen as an injury to them. How does one overcome this mental block and get through to these people?

I'm curious about where this grossly bigoted idea came from...
 
It seems like I'm finding that so many of the disagreements that we have in the United States today break down along the same exact lines. Conservatives fail to grasp the incredibly enormous distinction between knocking someone off their high horse, and stomping them into the ground. The difference between taking someone down a peg, and kicking them when they are already on the ground. One is not only acceptably, but often times very necessary, the other is absolutely abhorrent. What at a cursory glance may seem like the same actions, tactics, or behaviors are judged radically differently depending on who is using them against who.

That doesn't mean it's a double standard it means that when you are in a position of power over someone you cannot blame them for using whatever means are at their disposal to defend themselves, but when you are the one who is dominating another person in every conceivable way to use cheap shots in order to further your dominance is completely out of line.

Conservatives simply cannot grasp this reality. In their minds letting their opponents stand up is equivalent to being knocked down themselves. Worse yet their opponent isn't even trying to fight them, it simply wants to stand up. They assume that if their opponent gets to equal footing with them then they will start doing the same things to them that they have been doing to their opponent for decades.

White Christian Men in our society have grown so accustom to their position of dominance that anything less than dominance over others is seen as an injury to them. How does one overcome this mental block and get through to these people?

Conservatives are definitely the poorest winners. I remember in 2004, when W. won reelection how angry they were if anyone dared to criticize any of Bush's policies, like the Iraq war. On this discussion board, in particular I've noticed that whenever I dare to criticize something Trump has said, I've been told several times what a "snowflake" I am or that my criticism was "fake news" and just didn't happen.

I chalk it up to denial - some can't face that they backed the "wrong horse".
 
The fundamental problem with liberals - they all generalize. And all generalizations are bad.

(I'm also guessing a vast majority of them are immune to sarcasm.)

LOL- you just generalized this this post. Thanks for the chuckle :)
 
Oh my! I am a Christian man, but I am not white. Do you have an over generalized category for this conservative? Or does two out of three still let me in the club.

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Hold on.... If you're a Christian male, you HAVE to be white. The existence of non-white Christian males has been disproven time and again by liberals across the nation. You are as real as a 4 winged, rainbow colored unicorn flying through a sky made of cotton candy, over a river of Dewar's Scotch.

:mrgreen:
 
Or, just maybe, the white, Christian men aren't really anyone's "opponent" but they are getting a little pissed that some lunatic is running around the living room screaming about oppression while hogging the TV remote.

WHAT!!!! Liberals want to take away our remotes!!!??? Get out the torches, boys!!! It's time to kick some liberal butt!!!!

:mrgreen:
 
LOL- you just generalized this this post. Thanks for the chuckle :)

Obvious sarcasm was either not that obvious, or you are Captain Obvious. Obviously.
 
Hold on.... If you're a Christian male, you HAVE to be white. The existence of non-white Christian males has been disproven time and again by liberals across the nation. You are as real as a 4 winged, rainbow colored unicorn flying through a sky made of cotton candy, over a river of Dewar's Scotch.

:mrgreen:
Well... That would explain the looks I get at a family get together.

As the middle child, I have spent my whole life not existing. Now it's official. :eek:)

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Actually, the real problem with conservatives is that they all consider themselves to be self-made men and women, and therefore everyone else is obviously an inferior being.
 
It seems like I'm finding that so many of the disagreements that we have in the United States today break down along the same exact lines. Conservatives fail to grasp the incredibly enormous distinction between knocking someone off their high horse, and stomping them into the ground. The difference between taking someone down a peg, and kicking them when they are already on the ground. One is not only acceptably, but often times very necessary, the other is absolutely abhorrent. What at a cursory glance may seem like the same actions, tactics, or behaviors are judged radically differently depending on who is using them against who.

That doesn't mean it's a double standard it means that when you are in a position of power over someone you cannot blame them for using whatever means are at their disposal to defend themselves, but when you are the one who is dominating another person in every conceivable way to use cheap shots in order to further your dominance is completely out of line.

Conservatives simply cannot grasp this reality. In their minds letting their opponents stand up is equivalent to being knocked down themselves. Worse yet their opponent isn't even trying to fight them, it simply wants to stand up. They assume that if their opponent gets to equal footing with them then they will start doing the same things to them that they have been doing to their opponent for decades.

White Christian Men in our society have grown so accustom to their position of dominance that anything less than dominance over others is seen as an injury to them. How does one overcome this mental block and get through to these people?

Sounds like the "my wife made me beat her" argument mixed in with a bunch of self victimization while ingoring how the Democrats chased a big chunk of their base away. They ignored the blue collar democrats in the east while, at the same time, they crapped all over the Bernie millennials and now it is the Republican's fault that the Democrats are being obstructionists. The big bad Republicans didn't do this to you. You guys did this to yourselves and now you don't want the Republicans to defend themselves while being attacked over the silliest non issues.
 
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Actually, the real problem with conservatives is that they all consider themselves to be self-made men and women, and therefore everyone else is obviously an inferior being.

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Interesting cartoons. Not sure how much based on reality they are. I suspect that many people who are protesting Trump are well established, elite, white people who have a strong need to prove that they are "woke" or something and patronizingly believe that they understand the stuff that the Paulas of the world go through even though they never came close to her in their lifestyle.
I think that I started to become more conservative in my 20s when I realized that the elitism of my upbringing made it impossible to understand those less fortunate than me and it was not in my place to come up with programs to help them as that would imply that I understood them more than I did. So I try to help individuals, personally, not classes.

Research found that 92% of those suspected of violent crimes at Left-leaning demonstrations still share their home with their parents.
The study was carried out with data from Germany, and published in the German tabloid*BILD*– so results may vary compared to other Western activists.
Nonetheless – the findings ring true:
84% are male
72% are aged 18-29
90% are single
34% are unemployed
Study: 92% of 'Anti-Fascist' Protesters Still Live With Their Mom | Heat Street
 
Generalizing tens of millions people is foolish in the extremis.

All cons (and all libs) are not anything in particular.

To even ascribe ANY characteristic to people one has never even met is ridiculously arrogant.

Every, single con is different. Just as every single lib is different. Even in the things they have in common, they will be different to the degree they are similar if one examines them deeply enough.
 
Actually, the real problem with conservatives is that they all consider themselves to be self-made men and women, and therefore everyone else is obviously an inferior being.

Boo-coo irony, there.
 

While most of that is true life for some, there are some issues.

Just because you are poor and struggling doesn't mean you will automatically accept mediocrity. I grew up in a poor household with neither parent graduating high school. If I were to have brought home anything less then an A, I was getting whipped and grounded. Conversely, one of my best friends was from a family that was upper middle class and his parents were excited to see a B and only really pressured him if he was failing.

The other is credit. My parents started teaching me about how important credit was and got me a credit card at like 16 or 17.

They wanted me to have a better life then what they experienced and prepared me to not make the same mistakes they did and now I am living a much more comfortable life than what they went through.

It isn't where you start that decides the life you lead but the decisions you make. It is the parents responsibility to teach their children how to succeed and prepare them for life. If you are poor the blame can almost always be traced to poor decisions.
 
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