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Does Trump's lying ever bother his supporters?

joG said:
Don't worry about a few white lies. And most of the time he probably believes, what he's twitting, anyway.

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So he is either senile or delusional?

Great, just great
 
pragmatic said:
Yeah, that's a pretty bizarre set of quotes. The guy is a bit of a nutter at times.

But not sure what impact that one has on anything. He essentially is just playing to whatever audience he is talking to at a given time. Which has been standard procedure for every national politician since forever.



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All politicians lie. Agreed.

Trump lies are absolutely nuclear-grade pathological and go deep, wide and beyond anything standard - for anybody.

His trade, for most of his life -- is being a full time consummate bull**** artist extraordinaire, and anyone who rejects this is not living in reality.
 
Porkuloss said:
Trump has ripped off too many of those he's had business dealings with in the past to expect to have many marks like you left around. If you have any money, expect a call.
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Trump demands what he pays for. I work in the construction business. You have qualified people who do excellent work and have no trouble getting paid for a job well done. Unfortunately there are too many who are not qualified and get in over their head. These are the people who don't get paid and have problems on every job they do. I have worked for both and a lot of these unqualified people should be tried and convicted and clearly shouldn't be paid. I have also been an expert witness at trials in these cases and you would not believe the substandard work people want to be paid for. They get buy in the housing industry but once an architect or an engineer spells things out you either do the job according to the specs or you don't get paid. Period. Most of Trumps jobs are specked out. If your work is completed and up to spec a court will rule in your favor.


I looked at reviews of the people employed in Trump owned businesses and the employees speak well of their job. It is the independent contractors who have problems which is to be expected. I have seen too much substandard work.
 
OpportunityCost said:
If you like your doctor your can keep your doctor. If you like your healthcare, you can keep your healthcare.

Sound familiar?
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Why is that all I hear when the subject of Trump's lies comes up? Surely that cannot be the only example you can find. Trump was found to have made well over 200 lies during the campaign. Does Obama promising something that was not under his control even qualify as a lie? It was more like a mistake than a lie. Insurance providers determine which doctors and plans you can have, not the President or the ACA.

The PolitiFact scorecard
True 14 (4%)(14)
Mostly True 39 (11%)(39)
Half True 51 (15%)(51)
Mostly False 63 (18%)(63)
False 114 (33%)(114)
Pants on Fire 62 (18%)
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CriticalThought said:
Trump is on another scale when it comes to lying. Every politician lies to some extent, but not generally on things that can be proven verifiably wrong or that many on their own side can't get behind. Politicians will often lie to cover their ass but not usually to intentionally make themselves look like an ass. Trump demonstrates very little integrity in what he says.

Do you think that occasionally bothers his supporters? Would they use him as a role model for their own children?
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Trump is a pathological liar. He also believes if you say something enough times people will believe it. His supporters sure do.
 
iguanaman said:
Why is that all I hear when the subject of Trump's lies comes up? Surely that cannot be the only example you can find. Trump was found to have made well over 200 lies during the campaign. Does Obama promising something that was not under his control even qualify as a lie? It was more like a mistake than a lie. Insurance providers determine which doctors and plans you can have, not the President or the ACA.


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ObamaCare was passed on a long list of lies.
I wonder if it would have passed if Obama had simply told the truth about the law ?

So Obama lies werent just lies, they had a profound impact on millions of Americans and thankfully and eventually on the Democrat brand
 
Carleen said:
Trump is a pathological liar. He also believes if you say something enough times people will believe it. His supporters sure do.
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His lies don't touch the lies of Obama and the Democrat party over the last 8 years
 
Fenton said:
His lies don't touch the lies of Obama and the Democrat party over the last 8 years
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Ha Ha very funny. This guy is not even president yet and has told more lies than you can count. He's a joke and will be the liar in chief.
 
iguanaman said:
Why is that all I hear when the subject of Trump's lies comes up? Surely that cannot be the only example you can find. Trump was found to have made well over 200 lies during the campaign. Does Obama promising something that was not under his control even qualify as a lie? It was more like a mistake than a lie. Insurance providers determine which doctors and plans you can have, not the President or the ACA.


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When you propose affecting 1/8th of the economy, you shouldn't lie about it to get it passed.
 
trump's lies and those of his republiklansmen have already surpassed anything Obama and his DEMs did.

As trumposters deflect away from trumpistan in yet another trump thread .
 
MaggieD said:
No,he's really not different.
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Trump promises the world to you. He's different than everyone else. he will get things done!
Trump lies to you or his lies are pointed out to you. He's no different than anyone else. He has to say those things so that his enemies are confused. Blah, Blah Blah. Just the fact that we are having this discussion about Trump's lying already means that he's different than other politicians. Most of them pretend to have principles before their first day in office, heck some of Obama's and Bush's Principles held in tact well after their 100th day in office.

Trump doesn't have those qualities, and he never did.
 
Carleen said:
Trump is a pathological liar. He also believes if you say something enough times people will believe it. His supporters sure do.
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trump was against asshole assange six years ago--today not so much.

trump is now against the brave men and women who gather intelligence for America .
 
NIMBY said:
trump's lies and those of his republiklansmen have already surpassed anything Obama and his DEMs did.

As trumposters deflect away from trumpistan in yet another trump thread .
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Got any worms on that hook, Nimby?
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Trump demands what he pays for. I work in the construction business. You have qualified people who do excellent work and have no trouble getting paid for a job well done. Unfortunately there are too many who are not qualified and get in over their head. These are the people who don't get paid and have problems on every job they do. I have worked for both and a lot of these unqualified people should be tried and convicted and clearly shouldn't be paid. I have also been an expert witness at trials in these cases and you would not believe the substandard work people want to be paid for. They get buy in the housing industry but once an architect or an engineer spells things out you either do the job according to the specs or you don't get paid. Period. Most of Trumps jobs are specked out. If your work is completed and up to spec a court will rule in your favor.


I looked at reviews of the people employed in Trump owned businesses and the employees speak well of their job. It is the independent contractors who have problems which is to be expected. I have seen too much substandard work.
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I can see that being valid.

But Herr Trump has a long list of people he has ****ed over. Not just contractor's. If you work in the construction business, I strongly urge you to avoid doing any work remotely tied to Trump. I would turn around and run, not walk, away as fast as I could if I were you.

But hell, if getting "Trumped," is now considered an acceptable business practice, I don't know why other developer's won't screw you over just as Trump most likely would try to do. I mean, since whatever Dear Leader does is just wonderful, why not do it too?

But, just speaking personally for myself, I find Trumps cut-throat business model of ****ing thy neighbor to be a detestable practice, regardless of how much extra revenue it may generate, and any person who does it is a piece of slimy **** in my personal opinion.

Tell me what the guy in this "How Trump ****ed Me Over" story (see link) did wrong except for Trusting Donald Trump? There are many more stories just like it. Are you okay with that kind of business? I'm not. But that's just me. My parents made sure I understood all about that "honor and integrity" thing. Maybe if they had failed to teach me about honor and integrity, I would be sitting on a lot more money. Like Trump. Who knows?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/28/i-sold-trump-100000-worth-of-pianos-then-he-stiffed-me/?utm_term=.ca9c174867a6
 
McCain, Graham, Schumer, and America versus putin, assange, trump and russia .
 
OpportunityCost said:
Got any worms on that hook, Nimby?
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Anything on the thread topic, Opportunitycost, besides your personal insult charging baiting and following me around the board?

tds--trump/deflection/syndrome ;
 
CriticalThought said:
Trump is on another scale when it comes to lying. Every politician lies to some extent, but not generally on things that can be proven verifiably wrong or that many on their own side can't get behind. Politicians will often lie to cover their ass but not usually to intentionally make themselves look like an ass. Trump demonstrates very little integrity in what he says.

Do you think that occasionally bothers his supporters? Would they use him as a role model for their own children?
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I think it's a bit of a stretch to think the people you are reaching out to can offer any reasoned thoughts on your question, when one considers the basis from which those people would judge what a lie is comes from Hillary Clinton, and her MSM partners.
 
Carleen said:
Ha Ha very funny. This guy is not even president yet and has told more lies than you can count. He's a joke and will be the liar in chief.
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And which one of those lies had any consequence whatsoever on the American people?

As opposed to " you can keep your dr and your health plan if you like them " ??
 
ocean515 said:
I think it's a bit of a stretch to think the people you are reaching out to can offer any reasoned thoughts on your question, when one considers the basis from which those people would judge what a lie is comes from Hillary Clinton, and her MSM partners.
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This is starting to piss me off. How absolutely ****ing pathetic is Trump as a person and a future president that absolutely no criticism of him can be defended without evoking Hillary Clinton or the media. Here is an absolutely crazy idea. Maybe if you can't support a man's character without resorting to talking about how much worse you think the other side's politicians and media are, then you are really JUST AS BAD and you represent just a different flavor of partisan bull crap.

I am done with liberals! I am done with conservatives! I am done with Trump! I am done with Clinton! I am done with Breitbart! I am done with CNN!

You all suck! You cannot defend your own stink without bringing up someone stinks just as bad. Take a danm bath or shut up! I am at war with this whole God damned system of valueless bull crap! Everyone is embarrassing the hell out of themselves with this incessant defending their own brand of stupidity.
 
ModerateGOP said:
Trump promises the world to you. He's different than everyone else. he will get things done!
Trump lies to you or his lies are pointed out to you. He's no different than anyone else. He has to say those things so that his enemies are confused. Blah, Blah Blah. Just the fact that we are having this discussion about Trump's lying already means that he's different than other politicians. Most of them pretend to have principles before their first day in office, heck some of Obama's and Bush's Principles held in tact well after their 100th day in office.

Trump doesn't have those qualities, and he never did.
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At the rate Trump is going it's going to be a cluster**** before his first 100 days.
 
CriticalThought said:
This is starting to piss me off. How absolutely ****ing pathetic is Trump as a person and a future president that absolutely no criticism of him can be defended without evoking Hillary Clinton or the media. Here is an absolutely crazy idea. Maybe if you can't support a man's character without resorting to talking about how much worse you think the other side's politicians and media are, then you are really JUST AS BAD and you represent just a different flavor of partisan bull crap.

I am done with liberals! I am done with conservatives! I am done with Trump! I am done with Clinton! I am done with Breitbart! I am done with CNN!

You all suck! You cannot defend your own stink without bringing up someone stinks just as bad. Take a danm bath or shut up! I am at war with this whole God damned system of valueless bull crap! Everyone is embarrassing the hell out of themselves with this incessant defending their own brand of stupidity.
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Thank you for your observation and opinion.

However, you should never lose sight of the fact that what you think is a rose, is another persons pile of dog crap. Perhaps if you got off your pedestal you wouldn't be so demanding that everyone see life through your eyes.

Certainly would keep the blood pressure down, I would think..
 
Risky Thicket said:
At the rate Trump is going it's going to be a cluster**** before his first 100 days.
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I just wonder how long it will be before he does a complete 180 and stops trying to pretend to be a Republican.
 
ocean515 said:
Thank you for your observation and opinion.

However, you should never lose sight of the fact that what you think is a rose, is another persons pile of dog crap. Perhaps if you got off your pedestal you wouldn't be so demanding that everyone see life through your eyes.

Certainly would keep the blood pressure down, I would think..
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And sometimes it is all dog crap, and one guy just stands on his pile and barks out how it is better because it stinks only half as bad as the other pile, but in the end, it is all just crap.

There ain't no pedestals left. People used them all to prop up their demagogues and now they are all beyond reproach and reason.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Here's a doozie...

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Who cares you can't prove other wise either. And here is a fact, the popular vote is not what the race was run on. Hillary ran on the electoral system and lost. If the race were run on the popular vote the campaigns would have been run much different. Hillary didn't win anything!!! She just received more popular votes in a system where that is meaningless.

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pragmatic said:
Actually that would be an outlandish opinion......not a genuine "lie".


But it is a doozie.
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It was more than a doozie.

I'd say an opinion that might only be formed by Helen Keller watching Fox News...or a pathological liar. I subscribe to the latter.
 
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