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LABOR Secretary hates workers - more Trump insanity [W:86]

Master PO said:
where does it say [republican voters]?...nowhere
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Is this your statement in your post 243?

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question for you:

most voters [state and federal] voted for republicans then democrats
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haymarket said:
Well ,we have a nominee for Education who hates public schools.... we have a nominee for head of the EPA who has gone to war against its basic function and purpose ..... and now we have a nominee for Labor Secretary who hates workers and unions. And before that we have racist Jeff Sessions in charge of Justice which is supposed to protect our rights and Tom Price in charge of Health and Human Services who wants to rip tens of millions from insurance coverage.

Trump to Name Pro-Robot Fast-Food CEO as Labor Secretary

Steve Bannon - the top Trump henchman from the far right - denies that he ever said he wants to destroy the state as some have attributed that boast to him - but these sort of nomination are putting the fox in the henhouse. And that usually gives us lots of dead chickens.

These nominations are far right wing wet dreams come true and they are going to have to hose down the bed if there are any more like this.

God save us because its going to take divine intercession from this monster.
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its good to have someone who hates workers, leading the workers, as they workers will be more motivated to do good
 
11Bravo said:
its good to have someone who hates workers, leading the workers, as they workers will be more motivated to do good
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You seem to be confusing the job of the Department of Labor with an overseer on a plantation in the early 1800's.

The Mission Statement of the Department of Labor takes a radically different view than you do.

U.S. DOL - Mission. To foster, promote, and develop the welfare of the wage earners, job seekers, and retirees of the United States; improve working conditions; advance opportunities for profitable employment; and assure work-related benefits and rights.
Mission Statement - United States Department of Labor
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11Bravo said:
a mission statement can easily be changed.
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Except that is the mission statement as reality exists now and this nomination is clearly contrary to that statement so it has no business being made. Change the purpose of the Department - then and only then get somebody to lead the new mission.
 
haymarket said:
Except that is the mission statement as reality exists now and this nomination is clearly contrary to that statement so it has no business being made. Change the purpose of the Department - then and only then get somebody to lead the new mission.
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the mission statement of america was land of the free. until obama came in office then he changed it to land of the me.
 
11Bravo said:
the mission statement of america was land of the free. until obama came in office then he changed it to land of the me.
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Can you provide that mission statement for us?
 
Master PO said:
you lie again!

it says:most voters [state and federal] voted for republicans then democrats

it never said [republican voters]
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And where is your verifiable evidence that MOST VOTERS voted for republicans then(sic) democrats? And page 24 has no such evidence.
 
haymarket said:
And where is your verifiable evidence that MOST VOTERS voted for republicans then(sic) democrats? And page 24 has no such evidence.
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pg 24 with its link, shows that the voters, chose republicans to run most of the state governments and as governorships, adding also the congress, so while Hillary got more votes by a popular vote [which mean nothing] more voters voted towards the republicans
 
Master PO said:
pg 24 with its link, shows that the voters, chose republicans to run most of the state governments and as governorships, adding also the congress, so while Hillary got more votes by a popular vote [which mean nothing] more voters voted towards the republicans
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1- there is no vote total for voters who cast ballots for Republicans
2- there is no vote total for voters who cast ballots for Democrats
3- the lack of those vote totals make it impossible for you or anyone to state that MOST VOTERS VOTED FOR REPUBLICANS THEN (sic) DEMOCRATS.

4- Do you realize than some of the people on the chart you copied were not even part of the 2016 election and thus were not voted for in 2016 and it is intellectually dishonest to include them in any discussion of what the 2016 vote tells us about voter support?
 
haymarket said:
1- there is no vote total for voters who cast ballots for Republicans
2- there is no vote total for voters who cast ballots for Democrats
3- the lack of those vote totals make it impossible for you or anyone to state that MOST VOTERS VOTED FOR REPUBLICANS THEN (sic) DEMOCRATS.

4- Do you realize than some of the people on the chart you copied were not even part of the 2016 election and thus were not voted for in 2016 and it is intellectually dishonest to include them in any discussion of what the 2016 vote tells us about voter support?
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are republicans controlling most state governments?

are most of the state governors republicans?

are the house and senate in republican hands?

it looks as if most of the voters of this nation want republicans in charge right now, that could change in the future.
 
Master PO said:
are republicans controlling most state governments?

are most of the state governors republicans?

are the house and senate in republican hands?

it looks as if most of the voters of this nation want republicans in charge right now, that could change in the future.
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That is not the issue and it fails to supply the information you were challenged to present and you claimed it is in that chart.

Again you made a claim of fact; that MOST VOTERS voted for the Republicans than voted for Democrats.

In order to make that statement we need two things first and foremost:
1- the total number of people who cast Republican votes
2- the total number of people who cast Democrat votes

Then and only then can anyone make the determination which party garnered the most votes.

Can you provide for us now what you failed to provide for us earlier?
 
haymarket said:
That is not the issue and it fails to supply the information you were challenged to present and you claimed it is in that chart.

Again you made a claim of fact; that MOST VOTERS voted for the Republicans than voted for Democrats.

In order to make that statement we need two things first and foremost:
1- the total number of people who cast Republican votes
2- the total number of people who cast Democrat votes

Then and only then can anyone make the determination which party garnered the most votes.

Can you provide for us now what you failed to provide for us earlier?
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that is exactly the issue, you said Hillary got the popular vote over trump.

i told you i accept that fact,

i also told you while she got the popular vote for president, the voters chose republicans to run most of the states and governorships, while they also control congress ...so in conclusion, the voters lean towards the republicans .
 
Master PO said:
that is exactly the issue, you said Hillary got the popular vote over trump.

i told you i accept that fact,

i also told you while she got the popular vote for president, the voters chose republicans to run most of the states and governorships, while they also control congress ...so in conclusion, the voters lean towards the republicans .
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In our discussion of the 2016 general election results you made a statement that MOST VOTERS VOTED FOR REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS.

Here it is again

Quote Originally Posted by Master PO View Post
question for you:

most voters [state and federal] voted for republicans then democrats
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You said the evidence was on a chart on page 24.

Your chart fails to provide that information.

Not only does it fail to provide that information, there is information on it which involves office holders who were not even on the ballot or elected in the 2016 election and thus do not belong there as evidence of what happened in voters choices in the 2016 election.

Despite repeated requests you have failed to provide that information.

In order to see if you were telling the truth we simply need two things:
1- the number of voters who cast ballots for Republicans
2- the number of voters who cast ballots for Democrats

We can then see which is MOST. but without those two numbers - nobody can make that determination of fact.

Can you now provide which you failed to earlier provide?
 
haymarket said:
In our discussion of the 2016 general election results you made a statement that MOST VOTERS VOTED FOR REPUBLICANS THAN DEMOCRATS.

Here it is again



You said the evidence was on a chart on page 24.

Your chart fails to provide that information.

Not only does it fail to provide that information, there is information on it which involves office holders who were not even on the ballot or elected in the 2016 election and thus do not belong there as evidence of what happened in voters choices in the 2016 election.

Despite repeated requests you have failed to provide that information.

In order to see if you were telling the truth we simply need two things:
1- the number of voters who cast ballots for Republicans
2- the number of voters who cast ballots for Democrats

We can then see which is MOST. but without those two numbers - nobody can make that determination of fact.

Can you now provide which you failed to earlier provide?
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i also told you while she got the popular vote for president, the voters chose republicans to run most of the states and governorships, while they also control congress ...so in conclusion, the voters lean towards the republicans .
 
Master PO said:
i also told you while she got the popular vote for president, the voters chose republicans to run most of the states and governorships, while they also control congress ...so in conclusion, the voters lean towards the republicans .
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Is this your own way of saying you were wrong in your initial statement and cannot back it up with verifiable evidence?

Quote Originally Posted by Master PO View Post
question for you:

most voters [state and federal] voted for republicans then democrats
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Are you even going provide the evidence requested to verify your own claim?

In order to see if you were telling the truth we simply need two things:
1- the number of voters who cast ballots for Republicans
2- the number of voters who cast ballots for Democrats

We can then see which is MOST. but without those two numbers - nobody can make that determination of fact.

Can you now provide which you failed to earlier provide?
 
Re: LABOR Secretary hates workers - more Trump insanity

At least this secretary hates all workers, not just citizens. Are you upset about immigrants losing their status as preferred hires?
 
Re: LABOR Secretary hates workers - more Trump insanity

haymarket said:
Is this your own way of saying you were wrong in your initial statement and cannot back it up with verifiable evidence?

Are you even going provide the evidence requested to verify your own claim?

In order to see if you were telling the truth we simply need two things:
1- the number of voters who cast ballots for Republicans
2- the number of voters who cast ballots for Democrats

We can then see which is MOST. but without those two numbers - nobody can make that determination of fact.

Can you now provide which you failed to earlier provide?
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Lol. As usual, haymarket's marathon back-and-forth descends into pedantic hair-splitting about the opponent failing to cite evidence of a claim that evidence was not provided to disprove a claim about evidence having been provided or not about another claim.

coldjoint said:
At least this secretary hates all workers,
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Petulant melodrama.
 
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Neomalthusian said:
Lol. As usual, haymarket's marathon back-and-forth descends into pedantic hair-splitting about the opponent failing to cite evidence of a claim that evidence was not provided to disprove a claim about evidence having been provided or not about another claim.



Petulant melodrama.
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You do know what the word MOST means..... don't you?

In order to see if the poster was telling the truth we simply need two things:
1- the number of voters who cast ballots for Republicans
2- the number of voters who cast ballots for Democrats

We can then see which is MOST. but without those two numbers - nobody can make that determination of fact.
 
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