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LABOR Secretary hates workers - more Trump insanity [W:86]

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_Sal said:
the way you lay it out sounds good...I truly hope it will work that way
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It's always worked that way. What poor person ever gave someone a job?
 
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before that we have racist Jeff Sessions in charge of Justice....
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This is ya'll's periodic reminder that Jeff Sessions took the head of the KKK in his home state and put him to death. :)
 
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OpportunityCost said:
EPA is so far over its mandate its stupid. The Dept of Education was almost explicitly in the pocket of the NEA and the teachers unions. The labor dept pick, I actually don't agree with. Next assumption?
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what assumption, I don't understand what you mean
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Considering what Trump ran on, I see a pro-amnesty pick to be hypocritical and a betrayal to those that voted him in. I want a labor secretary that will implement ID check AND enforce it for new employees.
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I agree. I'd want to see eVerify fully implemented and enforced, on businesses and illegal alike.
(The bad part is that good counterfeit documents are easily obtainable on the black market)
If you take away the motivation which draws illegal aliens to cross the border, then they won't come.
If immigrants come via the legal process, then that's fine. It is part of a sovereign nation's to be able to choose who is allowed entry and who is not.
 
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haymarket said:
hating labor unions is attacking the defender of the working person.
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Incorrect. Hating labor unions is consistent with the pro-American belief that no non-governmental entity should wield monopoly power, de facto taxing power, be a coercive monopoly, coerce people to be members, coerce people to pay dues, demand they be fired for not being members in good standing, and engage in other activities common to labor unions. As far as the public sector is concerned, unions shouldn't exist, at least not in any manner similar to the way they do today. That's consistent with laws that have long been on the books. It would just involve eliminating labor unions' special exemption from those laws.

This appointment is a victory in this regard.
 
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Jack Hays said:
Because I'm indifferent to the pick, but I love the fact that lefties hate it.
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Trying to derail the thread by refusing to discussing it but openly mocking people for their views is contrary to debate.
 
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gdgyva said:
Labor unions have done more harm to this country in the last 50 years than the Russians and Chinese combined

And anyone that blames all the moves of plants overseas on just greedy companies is looking through biased glasses

Unions caused most of their own destruction....and if you are honest enough, you would agree

At one time, they were necessary....not anymore

And especially not the political bloodsuckers at the top of the pyramids who don't give a rats ass about the common worker
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I would be more than happy to examine your verifiable evidence of these claims.
 
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It's almost a contrarian cabinet. People seem chosen for their inappropriateness for the job.
 
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Mycroft said:
When you feel the need to spin your rhetoric, I feel the need to dismiss your blather.
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Your inability to actually discuss the topic is obvious. It is typical of the right wing response to most Trump critics here after the election
 
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Neomalthusian said:
Incorrect. Hating labor unions is consistent with the pro-American belief that no non-governmental entity should wield monopoly power, de facto taxing power, be a coercive monopoly, coerce people to be members, coerce people to pay dues, demand they be fired for not being members in good standing, and engage in other activities common to labor unions. As far as the public sector is concerned, unions shouldn't exist, at least not in any manner similar to the way they do today. That's consistent with laws that have long been on the books. It would just involve eliminating labor unions' special exemption from those laws.

This appointment is a victory in this regard.
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Congress, Presidents and the US Supreme Court disagree with you. Thankfully.
 
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Master PO said:
oh, you do understand!
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Only because I have seen many of these same type of errors from you.
 
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haymarket said:
Trying to derail the thread by refusing to discussing it but openly mocking people for their views is contrary to debate.
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I'm indifferent to your opinion about that too.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Considering what Trump ran on, I see a pro-amnesty pick to be hypocritical and a betrayal to those that voted him in. I want a labor secretary that will implement ID check AND enforce it for new employees.
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I see. Personally I see the erosion of labor unions' coercive power to be an important enough task to counterbalance any weaknesses or deficits regarding immigration.
 
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Neomalthusian said:
Actually I'd say it's more evident that he hates labor unions. I have to say, pretty refreshing!
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He and our incoming Secretary of Education should get together.

Oh: fun new rule: federal funds shall no longer flow to states or districts who negotiate teacher compensation directly with public sector unions or their representatives. :D
 
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haymarket said:
Congress, Presidents and the US Supreme Court disagree with you. Thankfully.
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Your smug confidence belies the hell of a year (politically) Big Labor is having. Good luck!
 
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cpwill said:
This is ya'll's periodic reminder that Jeff Sessions took the head of the KKK in his home state and put him to death. :)
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Excellent cover.



:mrgreen:
 
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reinoe said:
What's wrong with having someone who's pro-robot as Labor Secretary? Don't Robo-Americans have rights?
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#RobotLivesMatter! :lamo

But seriously....

What the Left doesn't get is that the reason the Fast Food industry is becoming "Pro-Robot" is because of the morons who think that flipping burgers is job worth $15/hour. McJobs are for college-aged kids looking to make a few extra bucks! It's not a job like an Apple employee who writes software for Iphones!
 
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Master PO said:
really?, you mean like the other day i made a typo, and you tried to correct me by making a typo?:lamo
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No - I mean just what I said I meant. Why are you so confused. And why are you trying to hijack this thread instead of talking about the actual issue of the topic?
 
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Neomalthusian said:
Your smug confidence belies the hell of a year (politically) Big Labor is having. Good luck!
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You confuse smug confidence with historical reality and law.
 
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haymarket said:
Your inability to actually discuss the topic is obvious. It is typical of the right wing response to most Trump critics here after the election
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Nothing worth discussing when you lead off with your spinning, hyperbolized OP.
 
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Jack Hays said:
I'm indifferent to your opinion about that too.
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Refusing discuss the actual topic is not a badge of honor.
 
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Mycroft said:
Nothing worth discussing when you lead off with your spinning, hyperbolized OP.
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Your admission of your own inability to discuss the topic is noted.
 
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haymarket said:
You confuse smug confidence with historical reality and law.
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Hang on to your history books!

Clinton and Kaine’s Anti-Union Roots
Why It Makes No Sense for Labor Unions to Endorse Hillary Clinton
It Looks Like Donald Trump Did Really Well With Union Households. That’s A Bad Sign For Unions.
Trump launches war on unions
GOP plans new assault on unions

Remember when Robert Reich was labor secretary? Well now you get Andy Puzder. Like I said. Good luck!
 
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