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Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?[W:192]

Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

LaylaWindu said:
You seem to be deflecting away from my question and hoping that you stating more opinions and falsely claiming you won when you were caught posting lies will change something. Sorry but this doesn't work on anybody interested in honest conversation. I will simply continue to ask these questions because until you simply admit the truth it will only further expose you and each and every dodge or lie of yours will be here to see A) Point out the part that was "incorrect" and prove it. B.) Was there "quite a bit more" in my post than personal experience and a personal thought I had? Yes or no? :)
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Already answered.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Explanation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-pen...trump-team-will-not-protect-us-063728742.html

I say no, THat the statement that they are "alarmed" " that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights," was an unproven opinion about somebody else, which made this rude and passive aggressive BS.

What say you?
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Greetings, Hawkeye10. :2wave:

It was the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong political statement. Why would they assume that the "new administration" would NOT do all the things they mentioned? IMO, Pence handled it with class and dignity, and I hope the cast got that message!
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Hawkeye10. :2wave:

It was the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong political statement. Why would they assume that the "new administration" would NOT do all the things they mentioned? IMO, Pence handled it with class and dignity, and I hope the cast got that message!
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Fat chance.
 
Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Jack Hays said:
Already answered.
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:) riiiight, thank you for proving me right once again and further exposing your posts.
I'll never understand why people lie.
 
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LaylaWindu said:
:) riiiight, thank you for proving me right once again and further exposing your posts.
I'll never understand why people lie.
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I'll never understand why people make baseless accusations rather than concede the obvious.
 
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Jack Hays said:
I'll never understand why people make baseless accusations rather than concede the obvious.
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I agree, you should do as you say. Lets test it and further continue the shellacking your posts are getting in this thread and further prove that you are not willing to do as you say. I love that you are just making your posts look worse and worse. We'll just start with one of my questions for now.

Here's my post.
LaylaWindu said:
Yes they are, they are VERY common place in my area or PA, OHIO and DC where I have been to many many shows and when I went to CHicago the same thing. In fact when the show itself is based on something political or the message of the show is something positive or a lesson I can' recall a speech at the end ever not happening. If you are claiming that you have never seen the actors talk to the crowd after words, give speeches and or promote charity, orgs or other events etc I can only think one thing, that you are lying.
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Please point out the part for us the part that was "incorrect" as your claimed and prove it. :)
 
Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

LaylaWindu said:
I agree, you should do as you say. Lets test it and further continue the shellacking your posts are getting in this thread and further prove that you are not willing to do as you say. I love that you are just making your posts look worse and worse. We'll just start with one of my questions for now.

Here's my post.


Please point out the part for us the part that was "incorrect" as your claimed and prove it. :)
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Sorry, but your post is factually inaccurate. It simply does not happen that a cast lectures an individual in the audience. The examples you cite are off point.
 
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Jack Hays said:
Sorry, but your post is factually inaccurate. It simply does not happen that a cast lectures an individual in the audience. The examples you cite are off point.
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HAHAHA that's what I thought. I'll ask you again, please point out the part for us that was "incorrect" as your claimed and prove it.
 
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“It was the most respectful, benign form of bullying ever. But bullying nonetheless. And by the way, human rights must be won, not asked for,” said Van Zandt in a series of tweets on Saturday. “When artists perform the venue becomes your home. The audience are your guests. It’s taking unfair advantage of someone who thought they were a protected guest in your home.”

“A guy comes to a Broadway show for a relaxing night out. Instead he gets a lecture from the stage! Not a level playing field. It’s bullying. You don’t single out an audience member and embarrass him from the stage. A terrible precedent to set.”
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Steven Van Zandt: 'Hamilton' cast bullied Mike Pence

Pretty spot on with one of the points that I have been making since the jump.
 
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Spotter on:

"You can do two things if you’re on a stage: Show or tell. There are those who feel Hamilton should have stuck with the first; instead, the cast and production team chose, for one night, to do both. While this is going to be a very long and ugly fight, I'd award them a narrow victory-by-decision in Culture Wars, Round One.

They saw an extraordinary circumstance looming before them, they stood up, they represented themselves and others with firmness and dignity, and they sparked plenty of meaningful, non-distracting dialogue by doing so. Chances to speak truth directly to power, even when power turns its back and starts walking up the aisle, may be rarer than we would wish in the next four years.

When the opportunity comes along, there’s much to be said for not throwing away your shot."

Whole, worthy of the read: Why the Hamilton-Pence Incident Matters
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Explanation:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mike-pen...trump-team-will-not-protect-us-063728742.html

I say no, THat the statement that they are "alarmed" " that your new administration will not protect us, our planet, our children, our parents, or defend us and uphold our inalienable rights," was an unproven opinion about somebody else, which made this rude and passive aggressive BS.

What say you?
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The irony of irony here is that Hamilton's son Philip was killed in 1801 in a duel with George I. Eacker, whom he had publicly called out in the middle of a Manhattan theatre after Eacker gave a speech during the Fourth of July readings at Columbia University that criticized his father. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Hamilton
 
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LaylaWindu said:
HAHAHA that's what I thought. I'll ask you again, please point out the part for us that was "incorrect" as your claimed and prove it.
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Your question has been asked and answered. It is out of bounds and never done to lecture an individual audience member from the stage. (Recent exception for cell phone use during a performance.) You have missed that point throughout our exchange, and cited putative counterexamples that are, in fact, irrelevant. "Incorrect" was the politest word I could think of.
 
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So I search for hamilton and I can't believe how many people are crying about this, so funny. Ill post the same thing in all threads.

"I haven't been on here for a little while and im not sure who all has seen or said what or how people feel about it now after the facts have come out but any false outrage "about the speech at the end" is pretty dishonest and retarded, it wont be taken seriously and is worthy of nothing but laughter and mocking LOL"
 
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Jack Hays said:
Your question has been asked and answered. It is out of bounds and never done to lecture an individual audience member from the stage. (Recent exception for cell phone use during a performance.) You have missed that point throughout our exchange, and cited putative counterexamples that are, in fact, irrelevant. "Incorrect" was the politest word I could think of.
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Again all you are doing is posting a lie and not cowardly not answering my question, nobody is falling for it. You were caught posting a lie and you lost, lost bad.
 
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LaylaWindu said:
Again all you are doing is posting a lie and not cowardly not answering my question, nobody is falling for it. You were caught posting a lie and you lost, lost bad.
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I hope you had an excellent Thanksgiving.
 
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Jack Hays said:
I hope you had an excellent Thanksgiving.
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I did, and today was good too when I logged back on and saw that you were continuing to post lies and NOT answer my question. Let us know when you can answer In case you forgot over the holiday here's my post:
LaylaWindu said:
Yes they are, they are VERY common place in my area or PA, OHIO and DC where I have been to many many shows and when I went to CHicago the same thing. In fact when the show itself is based on something political or the message of the show is something positive or a lesson I can' recall a speech at the end ever not happening. If you are claiming that you have never seen the actors talk to the crowd after words, give speeches and or promote charity, orgs or other events etc I can only think one thing, that you are lying.
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You claimed:
Jack Hays said:
You are incorrect all around.
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Please point out what part is "incorrect" and prove it. Thanks and Happy thanksgiving! :)
 
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LaylaWindu said:
I did, and today was good too when I logged back on and saw that you were continuing to post lies and NOT answer my question. Let us know when you can answer In case you forgot over the holiday here's my post:

You claimed:

Please point out what part is "incorrect" and prove it. Thanks and Happy thanksgiving! :)
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Asked and answered repeatedly. Are you trying somehow to compensate at DP for some success that has eluded you in real life?
 
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Jack Hays said:
Asked and answered repeatedly. Are you trying somehow to compensate at DP for some success that has eluded you in real life?
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YES!! another posted lie, you haven't answered and proved anything to be incorrect one time so I'll just keep asking because exposing your posts is fun.
Please point out what part of post #234 is "incorrect" and prove it. Thank you.
 
Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

LaylaWindu said:
YES!! another posted lie, you haven't answered and proved anything to be incorrect one time so I'll just keep asking because exposing your posts is fun.
Please point out what part of post #234 is "incorrect" and prove it. Thank you.
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Already done, and this discussion is over.
 
Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Jack Hays said:
Already done, and this discussion is over.
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There hasn't been a real discussion since the minute the lies in your posts were exposed for everyone to see that fact has been proven time and time again. But that won't stop me from being honest, staying on topic and asking my question again further exposing the types of posts you make, which are proven lies. Please point out what part of post #234 is "incorrect" and prove it. Thank you.
 
Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

LaylaWindu said:
There hasn't been a real discussion since the minute the lies in your posts were exposed for everyone to see that fact has been proven time and time again. But that won't stop me from being honest, staying on topic and asking my question again further exposing the types of posts you make, which are proven lies. Please point out what part of post #234 is "incorrect" and prove it. Thank you.
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My #287 was conclusive. I'll not reply further.
 
Re: Was the Hamilton Crew/Owners Lecture to Pence Appropriate?

Jack Hays said:
My #287 was conclusive. I'll not reply further.
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Post #287 = zero proof. Thank you for further proving that the lies in your previous posts were caught and exposed. Running away is a good move though since the lies in your posts were caught and you don't want to admit that fact. Let the wounds from your loss heal and have good holidays!! If you change your mind and feel up to it the question is "Please point out what part of post #234 is "incorrect" and prove it. Thank you."
 
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