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Trump was acting: The Other Side of Trump

countryboy said:
Pretty well understood by who? All of you who exclaimed, with unbridled conviction, that Trump would NEVER be elected President of the United States? :lamo
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Wait, you thought that circus had substance to it?
 
RickJames3000 said:
Why do you want to talk about HRC in every single thread you post in, regardless of the topic?

Good god, man. The Wicked Witch is dead. Do some breathing exercises or something.
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After more than a year of listening to all the rhetoric about how Clinton is going to win and watching the name calling from the left while they rationalize her behavior with the email thing, enabling the horrid actions of her husband, destroying people that were sexually harassed and molested by her husband, I am going to celebrate. Ain't life grand?

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Redress said:
I admit this is with some hindsight, but it was no secret that her lead in the polls was soft, that with undecided voters and third party voters who might(and many didn't) vote third party, that there was potential that things could go wrong. The first goal in any contest is to win. What tends to happen(and we saw it in this election) is when you start thinking about managing to win by alot, you start shoot yourself in the foot. A few more electoral votes past 270 are meaningless. Ensuring you get to 270 is the goal, nothing else matters. Trying for that mandate(which only those who supported her to some degree would even think existed) meant, in part, that she not only did not get a mandate, but that she has no further voice in policy.

There are a number of lessons to be learned from this election. I think that is far and away the biggest one. Winning is everything. Winning with 270 vs winning with 320 makes little significant difference. Just win. I would add other lessons:

2: Running a candidate that is under investigation is a nogo. Guilt does not matter, the harm is done.
3: Learn to better articulate issues, and how to differentiate yourself on those issues. This needs to be done in short sound bites(which is stupid, but it is what it is kinda thing).
4: Negative campaigning is effective, but you also have to build yourself up while tearing the other guy down.
5: Never, not ever, in any circumstance, in any situation, public, private, whatever, say anything negative about voters.
6: No matter how secure you might think a form of communication is, it is not secure. Write and speak as if your words will be broadcast, and expect all staffers to do the same.
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Agreed. Hillary did not give anything to vote "for". She gave no plan and no path forward other than the status quo.

All she did was bash Trump. Listening to her was like nails on a chalkboard. I would be thinking, "OK .. I got it the fifth time that Trump is ... this that and the other thing".

Anyone who was not well aware of Trump's flaws has been living in a cave. Even folks living in other countries know Trumps flaws.

Sure she should have taken a few well placed shots from time to time ... but in a dismissive way and then back to "Here is my plan ... this is what is wrong now and this is how I will fix rather than rant on..... and on and on and on and on and on and on (you get the picture) about Trump.
 
NonoBadDog said:
After more than a year of listening to all the rhetoric about how Clinton is going to win and watching the name calling from the left while they rationalize her behavior with the email thing, enabling the horrid actions of her husband, destroying people that were sexually harassed and molested by her husband, I am going to celebrate. Ain't life grand?
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Ostensibly, the reason you voted for Trump was to make sure Hillary was booted from the political scene.
She's not the president-elect and you don't represent the opposition party anymore. Time to change your attitude. Time to move forward. Why don't you focus on all the great things Trump is going to do to "Make America Great Again"? Or did you never anticipate having to talk about providing actual solutions?

Don't worry. There are a lot in your camp that never put any thought into what could be done once they pulled the system apart. You're not alone.
 
RickJames3000 said:
Ostensibly, the reason you voted for Trump was to make sure Hillary was booted from the political scene.
She's not the president-elect and you don't represent the opposition party anymore. Time to change your attitude. Time to move forward. Why don't you focus on all the great things Trump is going to do to "Make America Great Again"? Or did you never anticipate having to talk about providing actual solutions?

Don't worry. There are a lot in your camp that never put any thought into what could be done once they pulled the system apart. You're not alone.
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Why should I change my attitude? My attitude isn't the one that was out of whack. I still believe that people should be held accountable for their actions when they hold a government position. I have been instrumental in putting friends in jail when they broke the law as a federal employee. They stole tens of thousand of dollars from the govt. I don't think Hillary deserves any different. I believe wiping one's own ass is a good thing. You folks just keep avoiding the toilet paper and keep insisting that it doesn't smell like ass funk. If you never face the honest truth your party will just stay broken. That is just fine with me. It isn't my party. It will give me much amusement to sit back and watch.
 
MaggieD said:
I think I'll give him more than 72 hours.

Your attitude and others like you are EXACTLY the reason HC didn't reasonate. And it wasn't her sloppy use of an email server. It was her clear intent to deceive the American people and circumvent FOIA with that server. And her Pay for Play. And her Benghazi Bungle. And her sorry reputation. And her gutter tactics.

She kept saying, "They aim low? You aim high." Yeah. Like she did that.
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An ant seems tall if you're a gnat.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Why should I change my attitude? My attitude isn't the one that was out of whack. I still believe that people should be held accountable for their actions when they hold a government position. I have been instrumental in putting friends in jail when they broke the law as a federal employee. They stole tens of thousand of dollars from the govt. I don't think Hillary deserves any different. I believe wiping one's own ass is a good thing. You folks just keep avoiding the toilet paper and keep insisting that it doesn't smell like ass funk. If you never face the honest truth your party will just stay broken. That is just fine with me. It isn't my party. It will give me much amusement to sit back and watch.
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I'll reiterate that it's not about Clinton now. I hope your commitment to hold people accountable extends to the Trump Administration and the GOP-led Congress.

I don't care what you want to do with your ass. That's your own business... And a weak and lazy analogy.
 
NonoBadDog said:
Why should I change my attitude? My attitude isn't the one that was out of whack. I still believe that people should be held accountable for their actions when they hold a government position. I have been instrumental in putting friends in jail when they broke the law as a federal employee. They stole tens of thousand of dollars from the govt. I don't think Hillary deserves any different. I believe wiping one's own ass is a good thing. You folks just keep avoiding the toilet paper and keep insisting that it doesn't smell like ass funk. If you never face the honest truth your party will just stay broken. That is just fine with me. It isn't my party. It will give me much amusement to sit back and watch.
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I wonder how long it will take before Trump Humpers notice his stench. I never thought I would say this, but, thank God for Sen. Mitch McConnell. Our only hope is that the power brokers in the GOP can keep Trump on a short leash. The fact that he was able to stay off his Twitter account long enough to win the election is a hopeful sign.
 
SDET said:
I wonder how long it will take before Trump Humpers notice his stench. I never thought I would say this, but, thank God for Sen. Mitch McConnell. Our only hope is that the power brokers in the GOP can keep Trump on a short leash. The fact that he was able to stay off his Twitter account long enough to win the election is a hopeful sign.
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The worst thing in this whole scenario is the damage the Democrats did to themselves. They have reduced themselves to a punching bag when we actually need them to act as a balance in government.They failed again. It never turns out good when one party controls all three houses. I blame Clinton, Pelosi, Wasserman-Schultz and Reid but I never voted for any of them. They flushed the chance to run an honest candidate when they screwed Sanders over. I don't think they will change their tactics or ideology in a way that will make them any more successful.
 
ModerateGOP said:
This Thread is Not About Hillary Clinton
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Well...kind of...she is.

You are 100% corect in your OP. Who Trump showed us is not who he is. HRC did the exact same thing. They both put on a persona...an image...in an attempt to appeal to a base strong enough to put them in the WH.

I for one do not believe for a second that Trump cares about abortion. I dont believe for a second he cares about gay rights. These are political issues that you have to address if you are running for office. I believe Trump sees the presidency as a business opportunity and he plans to run the Executive Branch of the country like a business.

I also dont think we can judge his character by his words. Even the infamous 'grab them by the *****' comment. It was locker room talk trying to impress one of the guys. They both laughed. Big deal. Should he have said it? No. But is it anything more heinous than what has been presented as entertainment at the WH? Get real.

I think the greatest judge of the man is not in his words but in his children. Seeing his kids gives me hope that he is more than the public persona he put on for the populace to win an election.
 
NonoBadDog said:
After more than a year of listening to all the rhetoric about how Clinton is going to win and watching the name calling from the left while they rationalize her behavior with the email thing, enabling the horrid actions of her husband, destroying people that were sexually harassed and molested by her husband, I am going to celebrate. Ain't life grand?

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And let us not forget that she has fat ankles, her daughter is homely, and her husband impregnated 1/2 of Arkansas's women.

Besides, Donald's hair is real and he brags about his cheating ways. Clearly Presidential material.
 
maxparrish said:
And let us not forget that she has fat ankles, her daughter is homely, and her husband impregnated 1/2 of Arkansas's women.

Besides, Donald's hair is real and he brags about his cheating ways. Clearly Presidential material.
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Are you going to drown yourself in the tears of rhetoric this morning?
 
NonoBadDog said:
Are you going to drown yourself in the tears of rhetoric this morning?
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No, I'm going to point out that personally hating Hillary, often for minor or irrelevant reasons, is not a justification to support Trump. And if her character flaws were the only issue, rest assured that Trump has shown himself to be equally or more flawed.
 
maxparrish said:
No, I'm going to point out that personally hating Hillary, often for minor or irrelevant reasons, is not a justification to support Trump. And if her character flaws were the only issue, rest assured that Trump has shown himself to be equally or more flawed.
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I don't hate Hillary. I hate her actions. Having worked under the same legal statutes that she was working under I believe that people should be held accountable. To often I have seen upper management people get away with crimes that a normal person would spend years in a federal penitentiary for. If there is no accountability then we might not as well have laws.
 
NonoBadDog said:
I don't hate Hillary. I hate her actions. Having worked under the same legal statutes that she was working under I believe that people should be held accountable. To often I have seen upper management people get away with crimes that a normal person would spend years in a federal penitentiary for. If there is no accountability then we might not as well have laws.
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I totally agree. While her character is pretty sleazy, and constantly testing the limits of the law, I don't hate her because she protected hubby's cheating, but I am tired of her and other officials violating FOI laws, ignoring court orders, and peddling influence to donors. And Trump's pledge to appoint a special prosecutor was one of the reasons that many were convinced he was the real deal.

BUT GUESS WHAT, he is now crab walking out of that pledge too (as he is in repealing Obamacare). So will Donald Trump hire a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton? "I'm going to think about it…I don't want to hurt them," he says...

So the "anti-establishment" demagogue hires a princeling of the establishment, Reince Priebus, as Chief of Staff and, because his daughter is best friends with Chelsie and (suddenly) "they are good people", he is going to let them skate?

It was a fake election with fake candidates. The establishment protects its own...and Trump supporters have been punked by a con-man.
 
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