People need to STOP![W:68]

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Excon said:

You sure did type a lot to say absolutely nothing of import.
It even appears that you made yourself out to be a liar by responding after clearly indicating you were finished. Doh!
What ever floats your boat.

What is even more silly is you deflecting from your comments with this crying and trying to make it appear as if you only spoke in regards to her being fired, when you clearly did not.
What is even more hilarious is you thinking I was offended by you being wrong. :lamo
This has been your rabbit hole from the moment you said the claims made were unlikely given the time frame.
They weren't.
You were the only one in the wrong here.
Stop whining and over it.

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And I'll add the old internet chestnuts 'you typed a lot and did not say anything' and your pathetic 'you're a liar' idiocy to your now brimming to the rim booby hatch of troll cliches. In addition to mistaking my laughing at you and your little "argument" as whining? Hint: it's your idiotic argument, not mine. Reality makes a fool of you here, mom still has not been fired from her job owing to a call to CPS in less than 75 hours. There is always amusing entertainment that comes from watching a poorly skilled wrangler drive his already circular idiotic argument into such a dizzy mess that he can't keep track of what it is anymore. Gawd, I bet you can keep this up for days! iLOL. :golf

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ThoughtEx. said:

I enjoy you straw manning me into a position on child abuse. Considering my mother is in jail for going on 15 years now because of the child abuse I and my brother suffered. And my step dad actually died in prison, good riddance to the SoB. Maybe, I just have a different view on what actually damages children. But you keep your narrative of "empathy" going. Or as I see it, your narrative of shaming your political opposition for behavior that's been overlooked from the overly religious right for decades. This whole thread was for the purpose of shaming someone, not saving them.

Fake outrage sickens me. Especially when its hypocritical.

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Lol...you don't give a **** about the kid. That's plainly evident by your dismissal and deflection.

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Fishking said:

Lol...you don't give a **** about the kid. That's plainly evident by your dismissal and deflection.

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Oh, what do you propose be done. Remove the child from the home? What exactly is your proposed course of action concerning this child's welfare. So far all I can see is Opposition Shaming for something your side's been doing for far longer. When she makes him dog food for a month because he forgot to feed the dog, then let's talk. When she punches him in the gut for not loading the dishwasher, let's talk. When she makes him sit naked at a table from the time he get's home from school til he goes to bed in the laundry room on a cot. When she makes his older brother beat him senseless for talking back, so she can say she never touched him. Let's talk. Til then take your privileged complaints to someone else.

And just so you know I was the older brother. Ever done something to someone you love out of fear of someone you hate? Thats child abuse. Now sit down, and shut up.

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Sardonicus said:

And I'll add the old internet chestnuts 'you typed a lot and did not say anything' and your pathetic 'you're a liar' idiocy to your now brimming to the rim booby hatch of troll cliches. In addition to mistaking my laughing at you and your little "argument" as whining? Hint: it's your idiotic argument, not mine. Reality makes a fool of you here, mom still has not been fired from her job owing to a call to CPS in less than 75 hours. There is always amusing entertainment that comes from watching a poorly skilled wrangler drive his already circular idiotic argument into such a dizzy mess that he can't keep track of what it is anymore. Gawd, I bet you can keep this up for days! iLOL.

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Oh look more nonsense and whining.
You were dismissive of the entire claim, it being investigated and CPS, not just the her being fired. The information available at the time showed your dismissal to be absurdly wrong on the points of investigation and CPS involvement. As you said, you found it dubious that anything has happened in 24 hours. You even ridiculously went as far to say it was "highly unlikely, verging on impossible and does not pass even a common sense test" even though the information contained at the video source confirmed (with links) that it was being investigated and that CPS was involved.

As for the claim of her being fired. You have no idea if it is true or not. The time frame involved certainly allows for an employer to view it and fire the person just as it allowed for it to be viewed by Law Enforcement and CPS.

You simply know not of what you speak.
You were wrong, absurdly so. Get over it.

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Hawkeye10 said:

When they are a bit older that will launch right into "Mom/Dad, why dont the adults behave better and do better work".

When they get to be teens it will be "Mom/Dad, what's with this $26 trillion in debt that we are supposed to pay for your lifestyle".

And you probably thought this was going to get easier.

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I suppose we are getting a little off topic here, but the debt never needs to be repaid. It's been rolling over year after year, and it can and will continue rolling over year after year. Do you realize that if we ever repaid all debt, there would be no more dollars? The way we create money is that we lend it into existence.

You might want to look up and find out the last time when we didn't have a national debt. You might also want to discover the fact that every country in the world has a national debt.

The only way we could ever repay the debt would be if we totally changed our monetary policy, so that instead of lending dollars into existence, the treasury could directly create dollars and simply spend them into existence (without the need for debt or taxation). by the way, I'm not totally against a system such as this.

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ThoughtEx. said:

Oh, what do you propose be done.

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For people to take a breath and take a step back and watch how they talk around their children. It's not just the extreme things, like in the video, but even giving negative messages to our kids that they can't really process.

So far all I can see is Opposition Shaming for something your side's been doing for far longer.

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Then you ignored my post and also post #19. It's become clearly evident that you don't care about this kid's situation. You're more interesting in partisanship.

When she makes him dog food for a month because he forgot to feed the dog, then let's talk. When she punches him in the gut for not loading the dishwasher, let's talk. When she makes him sit naked at a table from the time he get's home from school til he goes to bed in the laundry room on a cot. When she makes his older brother beat him senseless for talking back, so she can say she never touched him. Let's talk. Til then take your privileged complaints to someone else.

And just so you know I was the older brother. Ever done something to someone you love out of fear of someone you hate? Thats child abuse. Now sit down, and shut up.

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I'm sorry, was unaware that this was the child abuse Olympics and that on kid being abused worse invalidates the lesser abuse of another child. You know what? You're such a phony.

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Fishking said:

For people to take a breath and take a step back and watch how they talk around their children. It's not just the extreme things, like in the video, but even giving negative messages to our kids that they can't really process.




Then you ignored my post and also post #19. It's become clearly evident that you don't care about this kid's situation. You're more interesting in partisanship.



I'm sorry, was unaware that this was the child abuse Olympics and that on kid being abused worse invalidates the lesser abuse of another child. You know what? You're such a phony.

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You can not comprehend the rage I feel towards you right now, unless you yourself was abused. Real and true rage, this is nothing for you. It's actually something for me. I am offended by you, on so many levels, I can't even name them all. In the future when you decide to shame a parent for some nonsense they are doing, look for worse offenders first. Otherwise, your allowing people ignoring their neighbors to feel they've fought real child abuse by shaming a parent, who is not criminally liable for anything she has done. Now go pat yourself on the back you internet warrior. Ignore how many children died during the course of this argument, while you make a mountain out of a mother making a kid camp in the yard and hold a sign.

Go **** yourself.

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ThoughtEx. said:

You can not comprehend the rage I feel towards you right now, unless you yourself was abused. Real and true rage, this is nothing for you. It's actually something for me. I am offended by you, on so many levels, I can't even name them all. In the future when you decide to shame a parent for some nonsense they are doing, look for worse offenders first. Otherwise, your allowing people ignoring their neighbors to feel they've fought real child abuse by shaming a parent, who is not criminally liable for anything she has done. Now go pat yourself on the back you internet warrior. Ignore how many children died during the course of this argument, while you make a mountain out of a mother making a kid camp in the yard and hold a sign.

Go **** yourself.

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If you want to make a thread about other ways or reasons for child abuse, go for it. Rage away with your raginess. When you do that, then I'll condemn that as well, just like it was wrong for your parents to do what they did.

As it stand now, you don't care about this instance because you can about partisanship more than the point brought up. That was quite clear from your very first post, where you deflected on to a different issue, instead of condemning what was in the OP.

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Fishking said:

If you want to make a thread about other ways or reasons for child abuse, go for it. Rage away with your raginess. When you do that, then I'll condemn that as well, just like it was wrong for your parents to do what they did.

As it stand now, you don't care about this instance because you can about partisanship more than the point brought up. That was quite clear from your very first post, where you deflected on to a different issue, instead of condemning what was in the OP.

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go **** yourself

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ThoughtEx. said:

go **** yourself

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Ta ta.

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Excon said:

Oh look more nonsense and whining.
You were dismissive of the entire claim, it being investigated and CPS, not just the her being fired. The information available at the time showed your dismissal to be absurdly wrong on the points of investigation and CPS involvement. As you said, you found it dubious that anything has happened in 24 hours. You even ridiculously went as far to say it was "highly unlikely, verging on impossible and does not pass even a common sense test" even though the information contained at the video source confirmed (with links) that it was being investigated and that CPS was involved.

As for the claim of her being fired. You have no idea if it is true or not. The time frame involved certainly allows for an employer to view it and fire the person just as it allowed for it to be viewed by Law Enforcement and CPS.

You simply know not of what you speak.
You were wrong, absurdly so. Get over it.

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I knew it was too much to ask you to bring your attention span and your brain, but it was worth a shot! Again, and you do need everything repeated over and over, almost every post of mine reiterated to you what my point was. Then as now, you are still clinching with your teeth onto the circular argument you decided you wanted to have despite what I kept telling you over and over again. It's that tunnel vision troll thing that does that. What's next? More tired little internet dervishes and poses? Want to bust out the 'you're a liar' card so many trolls do? What was your excuse? Oh that's right it was that I was a "liar" because after telling you I was finished with you, I came back and rebutted you again. It looks like you want to be treated like you did not just spend the last two days arguing past, around and through what I actually did say, no matter how many times it has been pointed out to you and posted. Still here you are, not one scintilla more informed or aware of anything but the same troll dance you have been going around in circles about for two days. So I guess your argument is as I surmised before, this was all just too subtle for you to grasp no matter how often it was shown to you. Yeah, that happens a lot when people flip "off" their critical thinking skills and go into full on troll tunnel-vision circles.

Want to deal with something radical? The idea that the woman in the video had been reported and lost her job in the short time period (regardless if she had been investigated or not) and had been fired because of this video was not only dubious, but patently "absurd" to quote you. Like a raccoon seeing a bright shiny object, you got distracted and went down a trap hole of your own making. You choose to ignore over and over what I kept reiterating both to you and other posters. So if your excuse is that this was all just too much for you to follow, you are just too obtuse to have been expected to grasp what was being said? Over and over? OK. Aside from typical internet troll behavior that's pretty much it. Though I guess you could always now try to go back to trying to undo what I did say, or you could flog that pink "liar" ladies gown glove you were flapping about earlier. Maybe try harder next time, and of course really do bring your brain and your attention span next time! Not just your booby hatch of go to over used and over relied on lazy brained cliches and chestnuts.

Like I said, I bet you can keep this up for days. You're two days in so far!

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Sardonicus said:

I knew it was too much to ask you to bring your attention span and your brain, but it was worth a shot! Again, and you do need everything repeated over and over, almost every post of mine reiterated to you what my point was. Then as now, you are still clinching with your teeth onto the circular argument you decided you wanted to have despite what I kept telling you over and over again. It's that tunnel vision troll thing that does that. What's next? More tired little internet dervishes and poses? Want to bust out the 'you're a liar' card so many trolls do? What was your excuse? Oh that's right it was that I was a "liar" because after telling you I was finished with you, I came back and rebutted you again. It looks like you want to be treated like you did not just spend the last two days arguing past, around and through what I actually did say, no matter how many times it has been pointed out to you and posted. Still here you are, not one scintilla more informed or aware of anything but the same troll dance you have been going around in circles about for two days. So I guess your argument is as I surmised before, this was all just too subtle for you to grasp no matter how often it was shown to you. Yeah, that happens a lot when people flip "off" their critical thinking skills and go into full on troll tunnel-vision circles.

Want to deal with something radical? The idea that the woman in the video had been reported and lost her job in the short time period (regardless if she had been investigated or not) and had been fired because of this video was not only dubious, but patently "absurd" to quote you. Like a raccoon seeing a bright shiny object, you got distracted and went down a trap hole of your own making. You choose to ignore over and over what I kept reiterating both to you and other posters. So if your excuse is that this was all just too much for you to follow, you are just too obtuse to have been expected to grasp what was being said? Over and over? OK. Aside from typical internet troll behavior that's pretty much it. Though I guess you could always now try to go back to trying to undo what I did say, or you could flog that pink "liar" ladies gown glove you were flapping about earlier. Maybe try harder next time, and of course really do bring your brain and your attention span next time! Not just your booby hatch of go to over used and over relied on lazy brained cliches and chestnuts.

Like I said, I bet you can keep making the same idiotic argument for days. You're two days in so far!

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Oh look. More foolishness.
You couldn't justify your absurd arguments and now can't get over being wrong.
iLOL

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Sardonicus said:

I knew it was too much to ask you to bring your attention span and your brain, but it was worth a shot!

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Excon said:

Oh look. More foolishness.
You couldn't justify your absurd arguments and now can't get over being wrong.
iLOL

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:lamo :screwy

But seriously, the hat in your avatar? It's got tin foil lining doesn't it?

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Sardonicus said:

:lamo :screwy

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Yes thank you for confirming what is thought about you and your deflections from being wrong.

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Excon said:

Yes thank you for confirming what is thought about you and your deflections from being wrong.

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Ah, back to the booby hatch and the "deflections" prop as well as the "thanks for confirming" troll-cliche. Speaking of props, isn't that what the tin foil lining in the hat is for? So you can only hear the voices in your committee, in your head?

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Fishking said:

Ta ta.

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Let me give you a lil reality check.

You don't publicly shame alleged child abusers, while the child is still in the house. You know why? It endangers the child. If CPS doesn't find enough evidence of abuse to remove the child from the home. And the person truly does have an abusive mentality. Then guess what happens when no one is looking. They take it out on the child. How would I know, it was only my ****ing life for 15 god damn years. And then after I moved in with my grandmother, she did the same **** to me because I didn't believe in God.

Anything you do or say to or about an abuser gets delivered 10 fold to that child. You claim I don't care about his safety? I'm not the one riling up his alleged abuser. You don't understand anything about this situation. At all. You are using this for political points. That kid could die when the cameras leave, and you move on to your next internet cause. But then you get to make a post about that to, and feel even more like you did something.

If this person truly has an abusive mentality, you people just earned this kid a severe beating at the very least. The best thing to do when someone alleges child abuse. Is quietly watch them and the child for definitive signs. Because action on your part direct or indirect will be seen as the fault of the child.

Now get back to feeling good about yourself, and telling people who were really abused how phony they are. In other words.

Go **** yourself.

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Sardonicus said:

Ah, back to the booby hatch and the "deflections" prop as well as the "thanks for confirming" troll-cliche. Speaking of props, isn't that what the tin foil lining in the hat is for? So you can only hear the voices in your committee, in your head?

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iLOL
You are only speaking of yourself.

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Sardonicus said:

Ah, back to the booby hatch and the "deflections" prop as well as the "thanks for confirming" troll-cliche. Speaking of props, isn't that what the tin foil lining in the hat is for? So you can only hear the voices in your committee, in your head?

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Excon said:

iLOL
You are only speaking of yourself.

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ThoughtEx. said:

Let me give you a lil reality check.

You don't publicly shame alleged child abusers, while the child is still in the house. You know why? It endangers the child. If CPS doesn't find enough evidence of abuse to remove the child from the home. And the person truly does have an abusive mentality. Then guess what happens when no one is looking. They take it out on the child. How would I know, it was only my ****ing life for 15 god damn years. And then after I moved in with my grandmother, she did the same **** to me because I didn't believe in God.

Anything you do or say to or about an abuser gets delivered 10 fold to that child. You claim I don't care about his safety? I'm not the one riling up his alleged abuser. You don't understand anything about this situation. At all. You are using this for political points. That kid could die when the cameras leave, and you move on to your next internet cause. But then you get to make a post about that to, and feel even more like you did something.

If this person truly has an abusive mentality, you people just earned this kid a severe beating at the very least. The best thing to do when someone alleges child abuse. Is quietly watch them and the child for definitive signs. Because action on your part direct or indirect will be seen as the fault of the child.

Now get back to feeling good about yourself, and telling people who were really abused how phony they are. In other words.

Go **** yourself.

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Bro...it's on youtube. This message board didn't do anything. Keep with the partisan rant, though. I'm just hoping that other adults can look at this and evaluate themselves and how they've acted around their kids, or other kids during this election cycle. Obviously you aren't one of those who will heed the warning.

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ThoughtEx. said:

Let me give you a lil reality check.

You don't publicly shame alleged child abusers, while the child is still in the house. You know why? It endangers the child. If CPS doesn't find enough evidence of abuse to remove the child from the home. And the person truly does have an abusive mentality. Then guess what happens when no one is looking. They take it out on the child. How would I know, it was only my ****ing life for 15 god damn years. And then after I moved in with my grandmother, she did the same **** to me because I didn't believe in God.

Anything you do or say to or about an abuser gets delivered 10 fold to that child. You claim I don't care about his safety? I'm not the one riling up his alleged abuser. You don't understand anything about this situation. At all. You are using this for political points. That kid could die when the cameras leave, and you move on to your next internet cause. But then you get to make a post about that to, and feel even more like you did something.

If this person truly has an abusive mentality, you people just earned this kid a severe beating at the very least. The best thing to do when someone alleges child abuse. Is quietly watch them and the child for definitive signs. Because action on your part direct or indirect will be seen as the fault of the child.

Now get back to feeling good about yourself, and telling people who were really abused how phony they are. In other words.

Go **** yourself.

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The best thing to do when you suspect child abuse is to stand quietly on the sidelines? Srsly?

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X Factor said:

The best thing to do when you suspect child abuse is to stand quietly on the sidelines? Srsly?

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Only if they are Democrats.

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Fishking said:

Only if they are Democrats.

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Seriously, from someone who says he suffered abuse. We should wait for "definitive" proof. What's that? When the child is beaten in a coma. Wow, I'd really feel like **** if I suspected abuse but didn't do anything because it wasn't "definitive" and something really bad happened to the kid.

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X Factor said:

Seriously, from someone who says he suffered abuse. We should wait for "definitive" proof. What's that? When the child is beaten in a coma. Wow, I'd really feel like **** if I suspected abuse but didn't do anything because it wasn't "definitive" and something really bad happened to the kid.

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He's mad because he feels it's only partisan and not a call for all of us to take a step back and watch how we talk around kids. He's more interesting in making this a partisan issue than actually addressing the issue.