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Predictions for a Trump Presidency

Vern

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He won’t build a wall (yea, no brainer right? not to about 20-30 % of America)
He won’t repeal Obamacare (that’s a bold one)
When a recession hits, republicans will re-discover the benefits of stimulus (sadly only in tax cut form)
His wife will ‘alledgedly’ have an affair with a secret service agent (he’s old, she’s young, most SS guys are studs. Just saying)
The deficit will go up (I wrote deficit guys, not debt)
Conservatives will figure out the liberal won (another bold one because they never admit when they’re wrong)
Democrats will not root for economic collapse (we put America first)
Hillary won’t be going to jail (another “no brainer/shock to conservatives”)
Conservatives will whine the office of the presidency deserves respect. (It’s called hypocrisy)
The incessant “stock market is about to crash” reports will be replaced by “it can only go up” reports.

Post em if you got em.
 
Vern said:
He won’t build a wall (yea, no brainer right? not to about 20-30 % of America)
He won’t repeal Obamacare (that’s a bold one)
When a recession hits, republicans will re-discover the benefits of stimulus (sadly only in tax cut form)
His wife will ‘alledgedly’ have an affair with a secret service agent (he’s old, she’s young, most SS guys are studs. Just saying)
The deficit will go up (I wrote deficit guys, not debt)
Conservatives will figure out the liberal won (another bold one because they never admit when they’re wrong)
Democrats will not root for economic collapse (we put America first)
Hillary won’t be going to jail (another “no brainer/shock to conservatives”)
Conservatives will whine the office of the presidency deserves respect. (It’s called hypocrisy)
The incessant “stock market is about to crash” reports will be replaced by “it can only go up” reports.

Post em if you got em.
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In an ominous coincidence, Canada's immigration website crashed last night.
True story...

Canadian immigration site crash: Election 2016 - Business Insider
 
Vern said:
He won’t build a wall (yea, no brainer right? not to about 20-30 % of America)
He won’t repeal Obamacare (that’s a bold one)
When a recession hits, republicans will re-discover the benefits of stimulus (sadly only in tax cut form)
His wife will ‘alledgedly’ have an affair with a secret service agent (he’s old, she’s young, most SS guys are studs. Just saying)
The deficit will go up (I wrote deficit guys, not debt)
Conservatives will figure out the liberal won (another bold one because they never admit when they’re wrong)
Democrats will not root for economic collapse (we put America first)
Hillary won’t be going to jail (another “no brainer/shock to conservatives”)
Conservatives will whine the office of the presidency deserves respect. (It’s called hypocrisy)
The incessant “stock market is about to crash” reports will be replaced by “it can only go up” reports.

Post em if you got em.
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No Wall. I agree. He'll probably fiddle at it but it won't happen. I hope he does streamline the immigration process though, and I hope the RNC will begin to embrace Hispanics as a good addition to the party.
Obamacare will see major changes. It has to happen, regardless of who won.
Stimulus / Recession. It will happen, and he will likely throw money at it. I doubt the People have the stomach for what should be done, so we'll kick it down the road again.
Jail for Hillary? Not likely. But if they do uncover nastiness, it could be very bad for her.
"it can only go up" will be a delusion. It will crash, probably in his first term.
American production will improve due to sensible energy reforms and trade deals.
 
Cable said:
No Wall. I agree. He'll probably fiddle at it but it won't happen. I hope he does streamline the immigration process though, and I hope the RNC will begin to embrace Hispanics as a good addition to the party.
Obamacare will see major changes. It has to happen, regardless of who won.
Stimulus / Recession. It will happen, and he will likely throw money at it. I doubt the People have the stomach for what should be done, so we'll kick it down the road again.
Jail for Hillary? Not likely. But if they do uncover nastiness, it could be very bad for her.
"it can only go up" will be a delusion. It will crash, probably in his first term.
American production will improve due to sensible energy reforms and trade deals.
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Wall and Hispanics are different issues.

Wall is against criminals.
 
Cable said:
This is the one Trump export many could get behind. ;)
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(grin!)
I suspect that, like the tens of thousands of Syrians we've taken in, about half of these refugees will go back home when it's safe to do so.
 
Vern said:
He won’t build a wall (yea, no brainer right? not to about 20-30 % of America)
He won’t repeal Obamacare (that’s a bold one)
When a recession hits, republicans will re-discover the benefits of stimulus (sadly only in tax cut form)
His wife will ‘alledgedly’ have an affair with a secret service agent (he’s old, she’s young, most SS guys are studs. Just saying)
The deficit will go up (I wrote deficit guys, not debt)
Conservatives will figure out the liberal won (another bold one because they never admit when they’re wrong)
Democrats will not root for economic collapse (we put America first)
Hillary won’t be going to jail (another “no brainer/shock to conservatives”)
Conservatives will whine the office of the presidency deserves respect. (It’s called hypocrisy)
The incessant “stock market is about to crash” reports will be replaced by “it can only go up” reports.

Post em if you got em.
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Trump is in a very tough spot. His has both houses but, many in his own party are against may of his positions and it only takes a few defections in the senate to make a majority with the Dems.

The Republican party will continue to fracture under Trump. He is kind of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't in many ways.

One of his major "nonsense" promises is rebuilding the military. On the one hand he has been touting a decrease in our military activity abroad (getting other countries to pay for US bases - which they are not going to do - many in fact want them out anyway) ... and on the other hand he is going to rebuild the military.

Rebuild it to do what if were are going to take up an isolationist position ? (not get militarily involved in the middle east)

The other nail in the coffin is the cost. Total Military Spending now exceeds 1 Trillion/year. This is roughly 1/3 of total spending and we are currently running a more than half a Trillion dollar/year deficit.

Although we are spending 1 Trillion, DOD spending has actually decreased. This is because more of the pot has been taken up by the increased cost of veterans. In Iraq there were 5000 US soldiers killed but, tens of thousands were injured physically and tens of thousands more were injured mentally.

Trump has promised to increase support to Veterans (good luck with that). Further, our continued involvement in Afghanistan and the occasional Libyan conflict and now we are putting a few boots on the ground in Syria/Iraq will maintain a steady stream of injured.

Doing what Trump has promised will send Total Military Spending even higher - and with it the deficit/debt.

His proposed tax cuts are estimated to cost from 400 to 600 Billion/year.

Where the heck is the money for rebuilding the infrastructure going to come from ?

His Law and Order diatribe .. how much will that cost.

and guess what - Mexico is not paying for the wall :)

I look forward to seeing Trump's first budget. If he tries to keep even half of his promises there is no way his own party is going to approve it.
 
thinkagain said:
Trump is in a very tough spot. His has both houses but, many in his own party are against may of his positions and it only takes a few defections in the senate to make a majority with the Dems.

The Republican party will continue to fracture under Trump. He is kind of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't in many ways.

One of his major "nonsense" promises is rebuilding the military. On the one hand he has been touting a decrease in our military activity abroad (getting other countries to pay for US bases - which they are not going to do - many in fact want them out anyway) ... and on the other hand he is going to rebuild the military.

Rebuild it to do what if were are going to take up an isolationist position ? (not get militarily involved in the middle east)

The other nail in the coffin is the cost. Total Military Spending now exceeds 1 Trillion/year. This is roughly 1/3 of total spending and we are currently running a more than half a Trillion dollar/year deficit.

Although we are spending 1 Trillion, DOD spending has actually decreased. This is because more of the pot has been taken up by the increased cost of veterans. In Iraq there were 5000 US soldiers killed but, tens of thousands were injured physically and tens of thousands more were injured mentally.

Trump has promised to increase support to Veterans (good luck with that). Further, our continued involvement in Afghanistan and the occasional Libyan conflict and now we are putting a few boots on the ground in Syria/Iraq will maintain a steady stream of injured.

Doing what Trump has promised will send Total Military Spending even higher - and with it the deficit/debt.

His proposed tax cuts are estimated to cost from 400 to 600 Billion/year.

Where the heck is the money for rebuilding the infrastructure going to come from ?

His Law and Order diatribe .. how much will that cost.

and guess what - Mexico is not paying for the wall :)

I look forward to seeing Trump's first budget. If he tries to keep even half of his promises there is no way his own party is going to approve it.
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Spot on.

The US Armed forces should be cut down to their only mission: defending the US.

Not our "allies", "American interests", protecting global this or that, or helping little girls go to school in Kabul.

So, let's get out of NATO, Afghanistan, and Syria, tell the Japs and Koreans that they are on their own, and there will be plenty of fat ready for trimming.
 
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Cable said:
Don't get me wrong, I think he will be much stronger on enforcement. I just doubt it will be a huge wall.
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The wall is needed against three targets: ordinary Latino surplus scum looking for work and welfare, drug mules, and terrorists.

Just one is enough to justify it. We can afford it considering the cost of not having one.

That it can be breached by diging tunnels or by sea or air is a stupid argument some push here as noting is ever perfect, like condoms. 98% is good enough.

Even the White House fence around the first Negro president gets jumped once in a while. But he still has it.
 
thinkagain said:
I look forward to seeing Trump's first budget. If he tries to keep even half of his promises there is no way his own party is going to approve it.
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I look forward to that too. yea, he wont be draining any swamps any time soon. And I suspect that republicans wont be the fiscal hawks they pretend to be when a democrat is president.
 
Vern said:
I look forward to that too. yea, he wont be draining any swamps any time soon. And I suspect that republicans wont be the fiscal hawks they pretend to be when a democrat is president.
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If they do turn out to be fiscal hawks (fiscal conservatives) that would be the first Red president that did not spend money like a princess with a credit card since before Reagan.

Democratic Presidents on the other hand have been the fiscally responsible ones. This is probably more a function of necessity rather than a desire not to spend. Dems did not really do much to reduce the size of Gov't. That is for sure.

Massive deficits and debt racked up by Reagan and Bush Sr. were starting to set off alarm bells when Clinton stepped into office. Clinton handed Bush a near balanced budget and was even paying off some debt if I am not mistaken.

Bush Jr. handed off a 1.4 Trillion dollar deficit to Obama. This deficit was reduced to 500 Billion under Obama (which is still huge) and that will be what Trump has to work with.
 
Vern said:
He won’t build a wall (yea, no brainer right? not to about 20-30 % of America)
He won’t repeal Obamacare (that’s a bold one)
When a recession hits, republicans will re-discover the benefits of stimulus (sadly only in tax cut form)
His wife will ‘alledgedly’ have an affair with a secret service agent (he’s old, she’s young, most SS guys are studs. Just saying)
The deficit will go up (I wrote deficit guys, not debt)
Conservatives will figure out the liberal won (another bold one because they never admit when they’re wrong)
Democrats will not root for economic collapse (we put America first)
Hillary won’t be going to jail (another “no brainer/shock to conservatives”)
Conservatives will whine the office of the presidency deserves respect. (It’s called hypocrisy)
The incessant “stock market is about to crash” reports will be replaced by “it can only go up” reports.

Post em if you got em.
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My prediction: You will need to up your medication.
 
My predictions:

1.) The largest tax cut in U.S. history.

2.) Average annual deficits of $1 trillion, peaking as high as $1.5 trillion in fiscal year 1.

3.) Debt will reach $26 trillion

4.) American business will become more profitable than ever, pushing the DJIA above 25,000.

5.) Trump will be able to push through almost all of his policies by holding SCJ appointment hostage over a Republican controlled congress.

6.) Gun violence will continue to rise as the efforts for the War on Drugs will be double.

7.) The Fed will raise interest rates to deal with higher than expected inflation. FFR of 3.25% by November 2020.

8.) We get a wall.

9.) Marriage and reproductive rights will continue to progress.

10.) Once again, deficits will not matter for the GOP.
 
Okay, I get to check off Number nwo on my list

He won’t repeal Obamacare (that’s a bold one)

I'm going to spitball some numbers here but I going to conservatively guess 99% of conservatives thought Obamacare would be repealed. I assume these 99% of conservatives have to be asking themselves things how did vern know? Well I didn't know for sure, it was a guess. But the trick is to not filter out the facts when making a guess. the first of many facts conservatives had to filter out was "republicans supported mandates for 20 years before flip flopping to obstruct President Obama
 
Let me just go ahead and check off number 8 on my list

Hillary won’t be going to jail (another “no brainer/shock to conservatives”)
 
Vern said:
He won’t build a wall (yea, no brainer right? not to about 20-30 % of America)
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Correction. Congress won't build the wall. It's OK, though, since he promised repeatedly that Mexico would pay for the wall. Time to find a motivation for Mexico to pay.

He won’t repeal Obamacare (that’s a bold one)
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Correction. Congress won't repeal Obamacare. I agree. They will try to fix Obamacare which will result in a second disaster about health insurance.

When a recession hits, republicans will re-discover the benefits of stimulus (sadly only in tax cut form)
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You must have missed Trump's promise to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.

His wife will ‘alledgedly’ have an affair with a secret service agent (he’s old, she’s young, most SS guys are studs. Just saying)
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Doesn't deserve a response.

The deficit will go up (I wrote deficit guys, not debt)
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It always does. It is the way of Washington.

Conservatives will figure out the liberal won (another bold one because they never admit when they’re wrong)
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What liberal won what?

Democrats will not root for economic collapse (we put America first)
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Uh huh.

Hillary won’t be going to jail (another “no brainer/shock to conservatives”)
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That was settled already. What makes you think she is in danger of it now?

Conservatives will whine the office of the presidency deserves respect. (It’s called hypocrisy)
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I'm a conservative and I don't believe offices deserve respect. Only people do.

The incessant “stock market is about to crash” reports will be replaced by “it can only go up” reports.
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Haven't heard those reports.
 
legalimmigrant said:
Spot on.

The US Armed forces should be cut down to their only mission: defending the US.

Not our "allies", "American interests", protecting global this or that, or helping little girls go to school in Kabul.

So, let's get out of NATO, Afghanistan, and Syria, tell the Japs and Koreans that they are on their own, and there will be plenty of fat ready for trimming.
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:) Trump now says that he said those things about NATO because he didn't really know anything about NATO, and that NATO is now important and great. We are also expanding our overseas operations.





Gosh. If only someone had warned Trump's supporters that they were being conned. If only someone had told them.


You know. Repeatedly. For months.
 
Vern said:
He won’t build a wall (yea, no brainer right? not to about 20-30 % of America)
He won’t repeal Obamacare (that’s a bold one)
When a recession hits, republicans will re-discover the benefits of stimulus (sadly only in tax cut form)
His wife will ‘alledgedly’ have an affair with a secret service agent (he’s old, she’s young, most SS guys are studs. Just saying)
The deficit will go up (I wrote deficit guys, not debt)
Conservatives will figure out the liberal won (another bold one because they never admit when they’re wrong)
Democrats will not root for economic collapse (we put America first)
Hillary won’t be going to jail (another “no brainer/shock to conservatives”)
Conservatives will whine the office of the presidency deserves respect. (It’s called hypocrisy)
The incessant “stock market is about to crash” reports will be replaced by “it can only go up” reports.

Post em if you got em.
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In other words, you like Trump.
 
fmw said:
Correction. Congress won't build the wall. It's OK, though, since he promised repeatedly that Mexico would pay for the wall. Time to find a motivation for Mexico to pay.
Correction. Congress won't repeal Obamacare. I agree. They will try to fix Obamacare which will result in a second disaster about health insurance.
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well fmw, my predictions were for his presidency. Sure, you can obediently make excuses and blame everybody but trump but my prediction is still correct. And try to understand, when I made the predictions you and yours thought a wall would be built and Obamacare would be repealed.

You must have missed Trump's promise to spend a trillion dollars on infrastructure.
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No fmw, I didn't miss it. I even started a thread about it and his tax cut proposals and how you and yours foamed at the mouth about deficits the last 8 years starting 1/20/2009 had nothing to say. That proved what flaming hypocrites conservatives are.

It always does. It is the way of Washington.
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wow, I even wrote "(I wrote deficit guys, not debt)". the ability of conservatives to not grasp a simple point when convenient should never be underestimated. Read this slowly fmw, the deficit went down under Clinton and it went down under President Obama. it doesn't always go up. It seems to when a republican is president. Oh that's right, you cant grasp reality when it conflicts with your ideology.

That was settled already. What makes you think she is in danger of it now?
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This is your best one fmw. It takes so little effort to look at the date of the prediction and think for yourself. But obediently flailing requires as little info as possible. The day after the election when you and yours were still high on the non stop lies it was not settled. You thought Hillary was going to jail. so it was not "settled already" when I made the prediction. Try to grasp the concept that I made predictions and they're coming true instead of obediently flailing.
 
Vern said:
well fmw, my predictions were for his presidency. Sure, you can obediently make excuses and blame everybody but trump but my prediction is still correct. And try to understand, when I made the predictions you and yours thought a wall would be built and Obamacare would be repealed.
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Not excuses. Disagreements.

No fmw, I didn't miss it. I even started a thread about it and his tax cut proposals and how you and yours foamed at the mouth about deficits the last 8 years starting 1/20/2009 had nothing to say. That proved what flaming hypocrites conservatives are.
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Partisans are flaming hypocrites. I have never supported federal government getting involved in deficit spending. I simply disagreed with your prediction.

wow, I even wrote "(I wrote deficit guys, not debt)". the ability of conservatives to not grasp a simple point when convenient should never be underestimated. Read this slowly fmw, the deficit went down under Clinton and it went down under President Obama. it doesn't always go up. It seems to when a republican is president. Oh that's right, you cant grasp reality when it conflicts with your ideology.
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The deficit went down under Clinton because the internet boom caused an big increase in government revenue. It had nothing to do with Clingon. Obama simply traded deficit for debt. No need to be rude.

This is your best one fmw. It takes so little effort to look at the date of the prediction and think for yourself. But obediently flailing requires as little info as possible. The day after the election when you and yours were still high on the non stop lies it was not settled. You thought Hillary was going to jail. so it was not "settled already" when I made the prediction. Try to grasp the concept that I made predictions and they're coming true instead of obediently flailing.
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I'm still flailing as I look for your answer to the question. I never thought Hillary was going to jail. Where did you get that idea? Sorry, that was another question, wasn't it.
 
fmw said:
Not excuses. Disagreements.
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Fmw, you are still confused about what you are responding to. I made predictions for the Trump presidency and read this slowly, I made the prediction the day after the election. You posting "correction. Congress blah blah blah" in no way addresses any of my posts. Making excuses for Trump is just your way of avoiding that my predictions were correct. Since you're probably still confused, let me help you out. Had you posted "no vern, you cant check that off as "Correct" just yet because Obamacare might still be repealed" that would have been a valid response to my posts. Anyhoo, let me go ahead and officialy check off number one on my list

He won’t build a wall (yea, no brainer right? not to about 20-30 % of America)

that's now 4 predictions I have officially crossed off.

Partisans are flaming hypocrites. I have never supported federal government getting involved in deficit spending. I simply disagreed with your prediction.
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its just amazing how the conservative brain works. Read this slowly, your opinion of deficit spending has nothing to do with my predictions and read this even slower, you not liking deficit spending isn't disagreeing with my prediction. I said deficits will go up and soon as Trump puts out a budget I get to check that one off too.
 
fmw said:
The deficit went down under Clinton because the internet boom caused an big increase in government revenue. It had nothing to do with Clingon. Obama simply traded deficit for debt. No need to be rude.
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"wah wah you're rude" is just a cowardly dodge from the fact you cant respond to what I post. Lets review

My prediction.
Vern said:
The deficit will go up (I wrote deficit guys, not debt)
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your flailing response
fmw said:
It always does. It is the way of Washington.
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my response to your obedient flailing
Vern said:
wow, I even wrote "(I wrote deficit guys, not debt)". the ability of conservatives to not grasp a simple point when convenient should never be underestimated. Read this slowly fmw, the deficit went down under Clinton and it went down under President Obama. it doesn't always go up. It seems to when a republican is president. Oh that's right, you cant grasp reality when it conflicts with your ideology.
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your contradictory response
fmw said:
The deficit went down under Clinton because the internet boom caused an big increase in government revenue. It had nothing to do with Clingon. Obama simply traded deficit for debt. No need to be rude.
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Since you're probably still not getting it let me paraphrase
Vern prediction: deficit will go up (I said deficit not debt)
fmw: it always goes up
Vern: I said deficit not debt. It went down under Clinton and President Obama
confused and contradictory response: it went down under Clinton and President Obama

You really need to work on your reading comprehension skills because you're still not grasping the point of the thread. Nobody asked you for your excuses "wah wah internet" or your incoherent delusional excuses "wah wah Obama simply traded deficit for debt." Let me try again, I made predictions. They're coming true. Telling us why they are coming true or what you do or don't like is not a response to my posts.
 
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