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Grand Old Party in the 21st. Century (Thanks for nothing)

Democrats have recently assured me that this sort of thing is the most awful and dangerous rhetoric that someone can engage in.

What matters is the electoral college. I don't see why the statement is dangerous.
 
What matters is the electoral college. I don't see why the statement is dangerous.
Teaching your base that elections you lose are illegitimate eats at our ability to have common political discourse and affect peaceful transitions of power. That's why it was wrong when Trump did it, and wrong when Democrats do it.

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The year 2000
Thanks GOP for George W. Bush. Here was a guy who brother stole the election for him. Coming into the office left with a surplus the nation puts its faith into a c plus college graduate. Then 9-11 happens on his watch by all GOP talking points today this would by default make bush Jr. The worst President ever. But after an act of war the nation unites then the bush administration lies to the U.N. and the America people about weapons of mass destruction. 2 wars later and no domestic agenda after 6 years or so this guy was done thanks GOP.

And here I thought by the thread title that you were going to be factual and genuine - pointing out the actual failings of the Republican Party since Clinton left office. (And there are many, several of which helped make Trump possible.)

That said, you are not entitled to your own "facts".
1. The 2000 election was won fair-and-square. Democrats attempted to steal the election for Al Gore, in truth. Winning a popular majority is not a requirement for winning an electoral majority. Bush won the 2000 election legitimately and had every right to act as President of the United States. Sore losers have been trying to spin that election result now for nearly two decades and you've no excuse for falling for it other than your own intellectual dishonesty and laziness.

2. The surplus was an illusion because President Clinton had added FICA taxes back into the general fund for budgeting purposes. Both parties wanted to spend the surplus. Al Gore campaigned on increasing federal spending while Bush campaigned on decreasing taxes. Bush's tax cuts actually increased revenue to the federal government over time. The fact that the (relatively small) surplus disappeared was hardly bad policy on Bush's part.

3. Are you suggesting that anyone who graduates college with a C+ average or less should not be hired? Or are you suggesting that the Constitution should stipulate that the president must have a college GPA above a certain point? Perhaps we should set a GPA bar on posters in this forum to spare us the pain of reading claptrap like your OP.

4. What "GOP talking points today" are you referring to that would condemn George W. Bush as the worst president ever because 9/11 occurred six months into his presidency as a result of the fact that Bush's predecessor had consistently treated terrorism as a law enforcement issue and had refused to capture or kill Osama bin Laden when presented the opportunity? If anything could have been done to prevent 9/11, then Bill Clinton - or Jimmy Carter, who lost Iran in 1979 - deserve the lion's share of the credit, yet I don't hear Republicans calling either of them the worst president in history.

5. The Bush administration did not lie to the United Nations when it made the case for Iraq's consistent flaunting of sanctions and previous UN resolutions. Nor did it lie when it laid out the evidence that Saddam Hussein had, in the past, deployed WMDs (albeit chemical and biological ones) and had been pursuing the acquisition or development of more. The intelligence on which the administration decided more urgent action was needed was, in fact, never proved but that was because Hussein had sufficient time to smuggle his WMDs (as multiple sources have since confirmed) into Syria, where they have been deployed in recent years. Repeating easily debunked myths about the 2000 election, the Iraq War and the Bush administration does not make them facts. It just makes you look silly and unserious.

6. While the increasingly unpopular Iraq War, in particular, did help render Bush's second term less effective, he did have a domestic agenda; it was just stymied by the election of a Democrat-controlled Congress in 2006. Your complaints/argument is all over the page here.

This doesn't appear to have anything to do with partisan politics other than proving your own partisanship. Bush hasn't been in office for more than 8 years. I don't see any discussion of the long-term implications of the Iraq or Afghanistan Wars. All I see is someone who struggles to put two coherent sentences together deriding a U.S. President for his college GPA not being high enough.

Grow up.
 
Well GOP at lease he is a good arms dealer
President Trump and Saudi King Salman signed a nearly $110 billion arms deal is to help the Persian Gulf ally with its military-defense system.

Trump in Saudi Arabia signs $110B arms deal with Persian Gulf ally | Fox News

Would that be an ally to America or to Saudi Arabia, cause one of Saudi's allies might be Palestine which happens to have Hamas "a known Muslim terrorist organization " as part of their government.:peace
 
And here I thought by the thread title that you were going to be factual and genuine - pointing out the actual failings of the Republican Party since Clinton left off


That said, you are not entitled to your own "facts".
1. The 2000 election was won fair-and-square. Democrats attempted to steal the election for Al Gore, in truth. Winning a popular majority is not a requirement for winning an electoral majority. Bush won the 2000 election legitimately and had every right to act as President of the United States. Sore losers have been trying to spin that election result now for nearly two decades and you've no excuse for falling for it other than your own intellectual dishonesty and laziness.

2. The surplus was an illusion because President Clinton had added FICA taxes back into the general fund for budgeting purposes. Both parties wanted to spend the surplus. Al Gore campaigned on increasing federal spending while Bush campaigned on decreasing taxes. Bush's tax cuts actually increased revenue to the federal government over time. The fact that the (relatively small) surplus disappeared was hardly bad policy on Bush's part.

3. Are you suggesting that anyone who graduates college with a C+ average or less should not be hired? Or are you suggesting that the Constitution should stipulate that the president must have a college GPA above a certain point? Perhaps we should set a GPA bar on posters in this forum to spare us the pain of reading claptrap like your OP.

4. What "GOP talking points today" are you referring to that would condemn George W. Bush as the worst president ever because 9/11 occurred six months into his presidency as a result of the fact that Bush's predecessor had consistently treated terrorism as a law enforcement issue and had refused to capture or kill Osama bin Laden when presented the opportunity? If anything could have been done to prevent 9/11, then Bill Clinton - or Jimmy Carter, who lost Iran in 1979 - deserve the lion's share of the credit, yet I don't hear Republicans calling either of them the worst president in history.

5. The Bush administration did not lie to the United Nations when it made the case for Iraq's consistent flaunting of sanctions and previous UN resolutions. Nor did it lie when it laid out the evidence that Saddam Hussein had,. The intelligence on which the administration decided more urgent action was needed was, in fact, never proved but that was because Hussein had suf. Repeating easily debunked myths about the 2000 election, the Iraq War and the Bush administration does not make them facts. It just makes you look silly and unserious.

6. While the increasingly unpopular Iraq War, in particular, did help render Bush's second term less effective, he did have a domestic agenda; it was just stymied by the election of a Democrat-controlled Congress in 2006. Your complaints/argument is all over the page here.


Grow up.

Wanna try that with me, right winger, or does the G O P only use circumstantial evidence when convenient to the Republican party?? Have to do it 3 answers at a time though characters you know besides wouldn't want you to miss anything

Fact 1 The same woman that told the people to stop counting votes and said G.W.Bush was the new president later went on to become a Congresswoman supported by G,W. Bush. a little iffy?

Fact 2 even with moral scandal Clinton left the White House what was his rating , what was Bush's.One thing for sure America wasn't in debt 3 trillion dollars.

Fact 3 I'm suggesting that any president that disregards warnings from the U.N. and in one breath shouts weapons of Mass destruction "which were never found" and in the other shouts that man tried to kill my Daddy. Any President right or left that gets rattled because some fat slob waves a rifle around needs a lot more education:peace
 
4. Ah jeez, not the old it's the Democrats fault or it's the previous president's fault. Really how old are you, that don't work anymore What you didn't get the memo? All president's accepting leadership will take America as is no passing the buck back no refunds balls in your court now. Besides the Republican Party had control of the White house the administration the House and Senate and all they could do was point fingers and scream about same sex marriage ,stem cells and they're coming to take away your guns. First of all heterosexual Like I care if gays get married or not , Stem cells well some Americans backed that including the son of Ronald Reagan. as far as coming to take away your guns , who? the 2nd Amendment isn't going anywhere a statement made in 1968 and guess what it's not went anywhere . I do want to at least try to keep guns out of the hands of mentally ill people or kids, Does that mean I'm coming after your guns , Hell no I got **** to do.

5 Where do you get your facts Fox news or Rush Limbaugh or some lame ass G O P network.

Here's a conversation they may have overlooked "cover up" . A reporter question "Mr. President what happened to the WMDS, THE SMOKING GUN, THE MUSHROOM CLOUD,? Why did you order a pre-emtive strike against Iraq? " Answer President G.W. Bush "BAD INTELLIGENCE.

You say this has nothing to do with partisan politics only I see no criticisms of the Republican party only a Democratic president that left office in 2000 and is blamed for something that happened in America in 2001. I was unaware that past presidents from a different political party could instruct a present president from a different political party nor would he want to.:peace
 
We really screwed up when we defeated Al Gor.

Let's not make the same mistake this time.

I think the real screw up was electing Reagan. The rise of hawkish neoconservatism, the rise of the evangelicals as a political force and the open questioning of separation of church and state, the rabid extremism of the gun lobby, the obliteration of basic social safety nets and attempts to protect the most basic human dignity and human rights of Americans, etc... America has never been the same since.
 
I think the real screw up was electing Reagan. The rise of hawkish neoconservatism, the rise of the evangelicals as a political force and the open questioning of separation of church and state, the rabid extremism of the gun lobby, the obliteration of basic social safety nets and attempts to protect the most basic human dignity and human rights of Americans, etc... America has never been the same since.

And the old" trickle down theory "which was revised in 2000 to tax cuts for the rich and extended in 2004 and about to be increased in next tax budget from the White house.
To the Sec. of Treasury ; where is the government going to get money to finance this tax cut for the rich?
Answer ;the economic growth will pay for it. Yeah just like it did between 2000 and 2008 and just like between 2008 and 2016 between 2000 and 2008 the national debt went up to 3 trillion dollars , from 2008 to 2016 the national debt went from 3 trillion to 15 trillion.
What do these have in common; Bailouts, more tax cuts , more outsourcing, more research grants more no bid contracts. and today the new budget is asking for more all in the name of economic growth of course . Does anybody know how much more education will be cut?:peace
 
:peace surely not Even a GOP control house and Senate would even entertain passing this bs.
Trump seeks historic cuts to government
So here's my latest thoughts about this horrible administration they seem to be taking the g w Bush approach as far as to say either your with our way of thinking are you are the enemy. I mean does not trump even for one second think he will ever have to address the majority of the Americans whom did not vote for him? Dude stay on your over seas trip.
 
:peace surely not Even a GOP control house and Senate would even entertain passing this bs.
Trump seeks historic cuts to government
So here's my latest thoughts about this horrible administration they seem to be taking the g w Bush approach as far as to say either your with our way of thinking are you are the enemy. I mean does not trump even for one second think he will ever have to address the majority of the Americans whom did not vote for him? Dude stay on your over seas trip.

Yes they would but this ain't Nixon, and this ain't the time of newspapers and telephones. This is the time of national news and Internet. the Republican party will be held accountable for any mistakes , for they have the power in government any mistakes made will be held accountable by the Republican party , The American people are not that stupid.:peace
 
Yes they would but this ain't Nixon, and this ain't the time of newspapers and telephones. This is the time of national news and Internet. the Republican party will be held accountable for any mistakes , for they have the power in government any mistakes made will be held accountable by the Republican party , The American people are not that stupid.:peace

Former U.S. Treasury Secretary Larry Summers trashed President Trump’s budget calling it the “least honest” and most “incompetent” proposal he’s seen in several decades.

More on this story Trump's budget violates laws of arithmetic and logic: Larry Summers | Fox Business
 
I rather think the GOP is stuck in 20th or even 19th century still
 
George W. Bush can go rot in Hell .................. period ................
 
George W. Bush can go rot in Hell .................. period ................

Well I don't hate the Bushes or the Republican party it is their judgement I question ans sometimes their sanity.:peace
 
No.

That is the ultimate sign of failure.

If the left in the right were in a relationship like a couple. Why would you want to remind in a relationship based on lies and deceit? What's the last thing this 2 parties have agreed on?
 
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