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Question for Trump supporters...

AlbqOwl said:
Check all her position on immigration on "On the Issues". You can google it and it will come right up on your browser.

In a nutshell her position is:

Hillary Clinton supports a path to citizenship for the millions of people living in the United States illegally because it would be impractical to deport them all. She has said, however, that those who have committed crimes while living American illegally should not be permitted to stay here.

Clinton has said she favors "humane, targeted, and effective" enforcement of the laws against illegal immigration in the United States. Her presidential campaign has said she believes deportation should be used only on "individuals who pose a violent threat to public safety."

Read More: Hillary Clinton on the Issues​

Now show me the evidence that Trump will not build the wall.
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Ummm, the above does not support what was originally claimed, you know that right? Have you checked trumps stand on the issue, better hurry, it changes daily.
 
Casper said:
Ummm, the above does not support what was originally claimed, you know that right? Have you checked trumps stand on the issue, better hurry, it changes daily.
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Um, my post was responding to the official statements of Hillary's positions. And I have seen nothing from Trump or anybody else speaking for Trump that he has backed down from building the wall. All I have seen are trolls and punsters who are Trump haters saying a lot of stupid stuff about his position on that.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Um, my post was responding to the official statements of Hillary's positions. And I have seen nothing from Trump or anybody else speaking for Trump that he has backed down from building the wall. All I have seen are trolls and punsters who are Trump haters saying a lot of stupid stuff about his position on that.
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Yes, I agree 100% that you see only what you want to see, that is how Trump got to where he is now.
 
Moot said:
You're the one taking her quote out of context to deceive people and then whining why no one takes Trump supporters seriously.
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I'm treating her verbatim quote in exactly the same manner as Hillary Clinton, her entire staff, the DNC, Democratic Party Members, Liberal/Socialist Progressives, and the majority of the major players in the MSM, have treated quotes from other candidates.

Again, if you have a problem with this equal treatment, you need to take it up with the parties identified above.
 
Moot said:
You're the one taking her quote out of context to deceive people and then whining why no one takes Trump supporters seriously.
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You forgot to insert "purposely" just before "taking".
 
AlbqOwl said:
The President cannot legally do anything different than existing laws without the consent of Congress, and Trump knows that, but he expects his negotiating skills to be able to get consent as necessary. His first priority has been to build the wall to give law enforcement a better chance to stop the flow of illegals, some of whom are really bad people, across the border and help stop the easy flow of bad drugs into our country. Then he wants to enforce existing immigration laws which are quite adequate if enforced; however he has now softened the toughest approach to be reasonable about it. And he has said again and again that it all will be done as humanely as possible; something, the MSM refuses to report.

Now tell me. Is that a more specific policy than Hillary's who wants to grant blanket amnesty and do nothing to enforce existing immigration laws. Or Gary Johnson who wants open borders entirely with no restrictions? Even Obama has done a better job than that.
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No, it isn't. Not to Godwin the thread but Hitler told the Germans that Jews would be treated humanely. Forgive me if I want to know exactly what "humane" means to Trump.
 
CriticalThought said:
What is Trump's current immigration policy?
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Luckily, I saw this thread before it turned into 10+ pages...I only had to skim 4 pages of blather with nobody answering your question.

Here is the answer:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform

IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

The three core principles of Donald J. Trump's immigration plan

When politicians talk about “immigration reform” they mean: amnesty, cheap labor and open borders. The Schumer-Rubio immigration bill was nothing more than a giveaway to the corporate patrons who run both parties.

Real immigration reform puts the needs of working people first – not wealthy globetrotting donors. We are the only country in the world whose immigration system puts the needs of other nations ahead of our own. That must change. Here are the three core principles of real immigration reform:

1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border.

2. A nation without laws is not a nation. Laws passed in accordance with our Constitutional system of government must be enforced.

3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation. Any immigration plan must improve jobs, wages and security for all Americans.

Make Mexico Pay For The Wall

Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States

Triple the number of ICE officers

Nationwide e-verify

Mandatory return of all criminal aliens

Detention—not catch-and-release

Defund sanctuary cities

Enhanced penalties for overstaying a visa

Cooperate with local gang task forces

End birthright citizenship

Put American Workers First

Increase prevailing wage for H-1Bs

Requirement to hire American workers first

End welfare abuse

Jobs program for inner city youth

Refugee program for American children

Immigration moderation
 
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CriticalThought said:
No, it isn't. Not to Godwin the thread but Hitler told the Germans that Jews would be treated humanely. Forgive me if I want to know exactly what "humane" means to Trump.
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So you are comparing Trump to Hitler but think Clinton's and Johnson's policies are preferable? That's pretty interesting.
 
Mycroft said:
Luckily, I saw this thread before it turned into 10+ pages...I only had to skim 4 pages of blather with nobody answering your question.

Here is the answer:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/immigration-reform

IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

The three core principles of Donald J. Trump's immigration plan

When politicians talk about “immigration reform” they mean: amnesty, cheap labor and open borders. The Schumer-Rubio immigration bill was nothing more than a giveaway to the corporate patrons who run both parties.

Real immigration reform puts the needs of working people first – not wealthy globetrotting donors. We are the only country in the world whose immigration system puts the needs of other nations ahead of our own. That must change. Here are the three core principles of real immigration reform:

1. A nation without borders is not a nation. There must be a wall across the southern border.

2. A nation without laws is not a nation. Laws passed in accordance with our Constitutional system of government must be enforced.

3. A nation that does not serve its own citizens is not a nation. Any immigration plan must improve jobs, wages and security for all Americans.

Make Mexico Pay For The Wall

Defend The Laws And Constitution Of The United States

Triple the number of ICE officers

Nationwide e-verify

Mandatory return of all criminal aliens

Detention—not catch-and-release

Defund sanctuary cities

Enhanced penalties for overstaying a visa

Cooperate with local gang task forces

End birthright citizenship

Put American Workers First

Increase prevailing wage for H-1Bs

Requirement to hire American workers first

End welfare abuse

Jobs program for inner city youth

Refugee program for American children

Immigration moderation
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Got anything that isn't a two-bit slogan that he sells on his website?
 
ModerateGOP said:
Got anything that isn't a two-bit slogan that he sells on his website?
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shrug...

What more do you want? Something you can't dismiss as a "two-bit slogan"? This is his stated Immigration Reform Policy.

Take it or leave it. Let your bias be your guide, eh?


edit: It just occurred to me that you probably didn't even LOOK at that link I gave because you think all he's put out are the headings I presented. Believe me, he has much to say about all of those points on his site. You can take a look...or just dismiss his "slogans".
 
Mycroft said:
shrug...

What more do you want? Something you can't dismiss as a "two-bit slogan"? This is his stated Immigration Reform Policy.

Take it or leave it. Let your bias be your guide, eh?


edit: It just occurred to me that you probably didn't even LOOK at that link I gave because you think all he's put out are the headings I presented. Believe me, he has much to say about all of those points on his site. You can take a look...or just dismiss his "slogans".
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Thank you for copying his policies because I'll never even click on his website. I make it a habit not to click on most Presidential campaigns websites, but Trump is a special joke. It has to be.
 
keep parroting the mainstream media OP, like a good little sheep.

TRUMP 2016
 
ModerateGOP said:
Thank you for copying his policies because I'll never even click on his website. I make it a habit not to click on most Presidential campaigns websites, but Trump is a special joke. It has to be.
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Okaaayy, then.

I'm glad you are able to make such an informed judgment of his policies...without even knowing what they are. :doh

(makes me wonder why you even asked)
 
ModerateGOP said:
Thank you for copying his policies because I'll never even click on his website. I make it a habit not to click on most Presidential campaigns websites, but Trump is a special joke. It has to be.
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Begs the question why you created this troll thread in the first place.....
 
Maybe Trump should try to make his immigration policies more to the liberal world's liking by making it,you know, pay for play, establishing a Trumped Up Foundation where he could siphon off money to family members and get paid half a million a pop to talk about immigration, form classified and above plans, featuring immigration and, despite all warnings and laws to the contrary, promise to hire a private entity to run his server where he can put all this in emails under such labels as Don and Don Jrs racquetball, or Ivanka's wedding plans, recipes only for billionaires, etc...


Ok libs, help me out here, am I headed in the right direction at least?
 
Mycroft said:
Okaaayy, then.

I'm glad you are able to make such an informed judgment of his policies...without even knowing what they are. :doh

(makes me wonder why you even asked)
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Do you know what they are? You just copy-pasted his website...
 
ocean515 said:
Begs the question why you created this troll thread in the first place.....
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What? This is not my thread! But go ahead keep on going. We all know your candidate is imploding right before our eyes.
 
ModerateGOP said:
What? This is not my thread! But go ahead keep on going. We all know your candidate is imploding right before our eyes.
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Please accept my apologies. I was wrong to attribute this thread to you. Long day, but no excuse.
 
Mycroft said:
I've read every one of his policies.
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And yet could not answer my question without copy-pasting his entire website. Again. Does he have any policy that is not a two-bit slogan?
 
ModerateGOP said:
And yet could not answer my question without copy-pasting his entire website. Again. Does he have any policy that is not a two-bit slogan?
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Come back and talk to me after you've read his policy. Then, you'll be informed enough to not be wasting my time.

btw, I didn't copy-paste his "entire website". If you had even looked, you would know that.
 
Mycroft said:
Come back and talk to me after you've read his policy. Then, you'll be informed enough to not be wasting my time.

btw, I didn't copy-paste his "entire website". If you had even looked, you would know that.
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I read what you copied. If that wasn't enough why did you copy all that text and then say look here it is? Why didn't you copy what you think his immigration policy is? Why did you only copy two-bit slogans? I did ask you for more, didn't I? Or did I just imagine that?

So I'll ask again. I only see two-bit slogans. Got anything else?
 
ModerateGOP said:
I read what you copied. If that wasn't enough why did you copy all that text and then say look here it is? Why didn't you copy what you think his immigration policy is? Why did you only copy two-bit slogans? I did ask you for more, didn't I? Or did I just imagine that?

So I'll ask again. I only see two-bit slogans. Got anything else?
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LOL!!

You are just being silly.

The question from the OP was: What is Trump's current immigration policy?

I provided the link to his Immigration Reform Policy page and I provided the highlights. The rest of his page...the details of each heading...is more than the allowed length of a forum post.

If you want more, all you have to do is read it for yourself...at the link.

Go play your silly games with someone else.
 
Mycroft said:
LOL!!

You are just being silly.

The question from the OP was: What is Trump's current immigration policy?

I provided the link to his Immigration Reform Policy page and I provided the highlights. The rest of his page...the details of each heading...is more than the allowed length of a forum post.

If you want more, all you have to do is read it for yourself...at the link.

Go play your silly games with someone else.
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So you can't give me anymore information without linking to his website, and this is what I've been saying. Thanks for proving my point, have a good night!
 
ModerateGOP said:
So you can't give me anymore information without linking to his website, and this is what I've been saying. Thanks for proving my point, have a good night!
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Tschuss
 
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