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California now leads the nation in job creation, projected $1 billion surplus

Yes, and the link I gave you shows where those dollars went but you want to focus on the actual number and not the fact they went to FEDERAL ENTITLEMENT AND MANDATES. Guess you expect the citizens of the state to pay for those mandates?

The money went to red states. I expect those running the red states to deliver on what they promised and get their act together. Why do Blue states consistently outperform Red ones?
 
No question about it the haves aren't nearly as liberal as they would want us to believe as they made their money through the same economic system they now attack and do their best to keep people dependent

I'm not sure you'll find a lot of the haves attacking capitalism.

If "liberal" really meant "socialistic", then there would be a lot less difference between the haves and have nots in a liberal state like California. Of course, most people would be in the "have not" category. You don't create an economy bigger than most nations' with socialism.
 
The money went to red states. I expect those running the red states to deliver on what they promised and get their act together. Why do Blue states consistently outperform Red ones?

The money went to Red states for Federal mandates to those states including payments to govt. employees, Medicare/Medicaid/SS recipients. Suggest you read the article
 
I'm not sure you'll find a lot of the haves attacking capitalism.

If "liberal" really meant "socialistic", then there would be a lot less difference between the haves and have nots in a liberal state like California. Of course, most people would be in the "have not" category. You don't create an economy bigger than most nations' with socialism.

Of course not because the halves benefit from capitalism just like the richest Congressional leaders are Democrats but you would never know it by their rhetoric and their attacks on individual wealth creation.
 
Of course not because the halves benefit from capitalism just like the richest Congressional leaders are Democrats but you would never know it by their rhetoric and their attacks on individual wealth creation.

Of course the haves benefit from capitalism, and so do the have nots. Attacks on individual wealth creation? If progressive taxation is an attack on capitalism, then the country is indeed going socialist.
 
You know, we continue to hear the BS over and over again, refute it with data and yet like with almost anything you ignore the data, act like it doesn't exist, and come back with the same argument over and over again

You have no idea why states take money from the Federal Govt. and apparently believe it is the role of the citizens of the state to pay for federal mandates for that is where the money comes back to the states for, here is a link about TX

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/smart/texas/

California?s $400 billion debt worries analysts - San Francisco Chronicle


So please stop making a fool of yourself

https://www.theatlantic.com/busines...tates-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

That's just ONE source.
 
The money went to Red states for Federal mandates to those states including payments to govt. employees, Medicare/Medicaid/SS recipients. Suggest you read the article

Yep, slackers live in the red states. Just bone up and admit it.
 
Of course the haves benefit from capitalism, and so do the have nots. Attacks on individual wealth creation? If progressive taxation is an attack on capitalism, then the country is indeed going socialist.

Isn't that what today's left truly wants? The party of Pelosi, Reid, Warren, and now Schumer certainly are doing nothing to promote the private sector
 

The link is available for all thes tates just like TX and that is the link that shows were the dollars go. You look at a chart and ignore context, I posted that context suggest you read it.

What you continue to show is just how oblivious you are to reality. There are more people in California on poverty than anywhere else in the nation, it is the 6th highest taxed state in the nation based upon State and local taxes, it has the widest gap between the halves and have nots yet you continue to buy the leftwing rhetoric showing how easily it is to get indoctrinated by an ideology while ignoring actual results
 
After 8 years of a failed GOP governor, looks like things are finally starting to turn around in the Golden State under Governor Jerry Brown's leadership. :peace

Hoover creates a mess, FDR has to clean up.

Reagan/Bush Senior create a mess, Clinton has to clean up.

Dumbya Bush Jr. creates a mess, Obama has to clean up.

Arnold creates a mess, Jerry Brown has to clean up.

Anyone else see a pattern here?


California predicts $1bn budget surplus - FT.com

California unemployment rate dips to 10.1 percent - Oroville Mercury Register

This post doesn't even qualify a Propaganda it's pure stupidity.

Arnold has not been in office for 6 years. Because of the extreme Democrat establishment in California and that Arnold himself was not much of an economic conservative he had no chance of turning that states economy around. The California economy was actually on average worse unde Brown. What ever gains they are making now are microscopic compared to what they have been losing to places like Texas over the last 8 years. Like the rest of the nation California's current economic gains are from the Trump Effect.

The Depression was caused by the actions of the FED not Hoover. FDR policies are why it became the Great Depression. The New Deal slowing down economic recovery is similar to how Obama economic Policies have made this last recession the slowest recovery in US history. Ironically what the FED did to cause the Depression is similar what they are planning to slow the economic surge Trumps kept promises and promised policies are causing. Trump is "draining the swamp", the FED being part of that swamp is fighting back.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...mQgEP-hHtpE5yNC-XAw4zQ&bvm=bv.147448319,d.amc

We had a great economy during the 90's from the coattails of Reaganomics and Clinton signing every economic bill Newt gave him. Nothing from Clinton himself. Feel Free to name a single economic policy original to Clinton that helped the economy.

Although there were many bad actors in the private banking community, every Government policy that caused the 2008 crash came from Liberal Democrats, not Bush. Obama policies have made that recession almost permanent (slowest recovery in US history).

"The Pattern here" is that Liberal Democrat policies have caused every major economic catastrophe the US has ever suffered. But because they are the best propagandist the world has ever seen and they have almost 90% of the MSM willing to lie for them, it's easy blame the GOP for the falls and take credit for the recoveries.
 
The link is available for all thes tates just like TX and that is the link that shows were the dollars go. You look at a chart and ignore context, I posted that context suggest you read it.

What you continue to show is just how oblivious you are to reality. There are more people in California on poverty than anywhere else in the nation, it is the 6th highest taxed state in the nation based upon State and local taxes, it has the widest gap between the halves and have nots yet you continue to buy the leftwing rhetoric showing how easily it is to get indoctrinated by an ideology while ignoring actual results

No, we look at the charts and see that conservative controlled states take the most federal money. You would think that with California's population it'd be the other way around, but it's not is it. That's because people like Jerry Brown know what the hell they're doing and people don't wanna live in states that have nothing to offer and are socially and politically ignorant.
 
Isn't that what today's left truly wants? The party of Pelosi, Reid, Warren, and now Schumer certainly are doing nothing to promote the private sector

No, the "left" doesn't want socialism. No one wants real socialism. That's just a right wing meme: "liberalism is socialism and just one step to Marxism." Remember when Hannity et. al. was claiming Obama was a Marxist because he supported income redistribution via progressive taxation?
 
No, we look at the charts and see that conservative controlled states take the most federal money. You would think that with California's population it'd be the other way around, but it's not is it. That's because people like Jerry Brown know what the hell they're doing and people don't wanna live in states that have nothing to offer and are socially and politically ignorant.

Yet you have no idea where that money goes? Do you think states should pay for govt. employees including Medicare, Medicaid, and SS? People like Jerry Brown have you duped, you buy the rhetoric and ignore the results just like you are doing by posting meaningless data out of context. Jerry Brown is making you and the rest of the left look foolish. I do feel sorry for people like you who buy rhetoric and ignore context and substance.
 
No, the "left" doesn't want socialism. No one wants real socialism. That's just a right wing meme: "liberalism is socialism and just one step to Marxism." Remember when Hannity et. al. was claiming Obama was a Marxist because he supported income redistribution via progressive taxation?

Maybe you haven't heard Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Al Franken, Chuck Schumer, and most of the leftwing Democrats talk but it is quite clear exactly what they want and that is indeed socialism or govt. control over production
 
Maybe you haven't heard Elizabeth Warren, Nancy Pelosi, Al Franken, Chuck Schumer, and most of the leftwing Democrats talk but it is quite clear exactly what they want and that is indeed socialism or govt. control over production

Really?
Which industries do they want to nationalize?
 
Yet you have no idea where that money goes? Do you think states should pay for govt. employees including Medicare, Medicaid, and SS? People like Jerry Brown have you duped, you buy the rhetoric and ignore the results just like you are doing by posting meaningless data out of context. Jerry Brown is making you and the rest of the left look foolish. I do feel sorry for people like you who buy rhetoric and ignore context and substance.
so , what you are saying, is that he is a clone of you? the whole buying the rhetoric and posting meaningless data out of context....
 
No, we look at the charts and see that conservative controlled states take the most federal money. You would think that with California's population it'd be the other way around, but it's not is it. That's because people like Jerry Brown know what the hell they're doing and people don't wanna live in states that have nothing to offer and are socially and politically ignorant.

Your source on that is fraud. They are including money for Federal facilities and infrastructure, military bases, prisons, VA hospitals, etc. Then contrasting it with the size of the states economy to make it look like traditional red states get the most federal aid. A military base in Utah looks a lot bigger than one in California compared to size of economy, even though Utah's economy is 10 times healther.

The fact is blue areas/counties that voted Hillary account for the overwhelming majority of nation wide food stamp and welfare type consumption.
 
No, the "left" doesn't want socialism. No one wants real socialism. That's just a right wing meme: "liberalism is socialism and just one step to Marxism." Remember when Hannity et. al. was claiming Obama was a Marxist because he supported income redistribution via progressive taxation?

Progressive/Liberal/Socialist/Communist is the Left. No matter what the rename themselves in the long run they are the same. Social Issues although important do not define Left or Right. Social Issues are what Marxist use to get support from Useful Idiots who normally would never give support to Socialism/Communism.

There are two types of Progressive Liberals:

1. Socialists attempting to lie about what they are.

2. Useful Idiots who join up because they think it’s cool or they like a social issue (abortion, gay rights). But they don’t realize they are giving support to the most destructive political/economic ideology the world has ever seen.

A close examination of the governing platforms of both Socialism and Communism shows the absolute only difference between the two is Socialist try to claim they can function without a Totalitarian Dictatorship.

The problem with that is Socialism is so antithetical to human nature that people have to be forced to do it. This can only happen with an all powerful centralized government controlling everything AKA a Totalitarian Dictatorship.

Libertarians and Conservatives are on the Right (Although there are Leftist currently trying to steal the term Libertarian the way they stole the term Liberal decades ago).

The fundamental defining trait of Conservatives and Libertarians is a desire for Limited Power Govt and a Free Market Economy. The difference between the two is stance on social issues.
 
Yet you have no idea where that money goes? Do you think states should pay for govt. employees including Medicare, Medicaid, and SS? People like Jerry Brown have you duped, you buy the rhetoric and ignore the results just like you are doing by posting meaningless data out of context. Jerry Brown is making you and the rest of the left look foolish. I do feel sorry for people like you who buy rhetoric and ignore context and substance.

That money goes into their welfare systems dude. It goes into the state expenditures and because the right-wing have no plans on growth, because nobody wants to live there, said states pay little or nothing back.

My family comes from a southern right-wing state dude, and after the agrarian system was torn apart by unfair competition and low wages, the states fell under the spell of federal money: I think you guys call it redistribution... The right-wing draws more than anybody else! and the facts prove it.
 
I suppose the view is very different from the other side of the world, than it is to someone living in the very middle of this mess.
Sounds like you didn't create a $250mm business like my cal daughter. Too many world vacations,,,,, cal is a real mess? Only to the uneducated?
 
Your source on that is fraud. They are including money for Federal facilities and infrastructure, military bases, prisons, VA hospitals, etc. Then contrasting it with the size of the states economy to make it look like traditional red states get the most federal aid. A military base in Utah looks a lot bigger than one in California compared to size of economy, even though Utah's economy is 10 times healther.

The fact is blue areas/counties that voted Hillary account for the overwhelming majority of nation wide food stamp and welfare type consumption.

I thought most of the states that took more from the gov than they put in were mostly red confederate states
 
Your source on that is fraud. They are including money for Federal facilities and infrastructure, military bases, prisons, VA hospitals, etc. Then contrasting it with the size of the states economy to make it look like traditional red states get the most federal aid. A military base in Utah looks a lot bigger than one in California compared to size of economy, even though Utah's economy is 10 times healther.

The fact is blue areas/counties that voted Hillary account for the overwhelming majority of nation wide food stamp and welfare type consumption.
Well my cal had to visit Mississippi on business and couldn't believe it. Couldn't get out fast enough. Thought she was back in the KKK days
 
Healthcare to start

Really? They've proposed a system like they have in Spain, where the health care providers are employees of the government?
Or, have they just proposed to make the government the ultimate single and bypass the bloated insurance industry?
 
Progressive/Liberal/Socialist/Communist is the Left. No matter what the rename themselves in the long run they are the same. Social Issues although important do not define Left or Right. Social Issues are what Marxist use to get support from Useful Idiots who normally would never give support to Socialism/Communism.

There are two types of Progressive Liberals:

1. Socialists attempting to lie about what they are.

2. Useful Idiots who join up because they think it’s cool or they like a social issue (abortion, gay rights). But they don’t realize they are giving support to the most destructive political/economic ideology the world has ever seen.

A close examination of the governing platforms of both Socialism and Communism shows the absolute only difference between the two is Socialist try to claim they can function without a Totalitarian Dictatorship.

The problem with that is Socialism is so antithetical to human nature that people have to be forced to do it. This can only happen with an all powerful centralized government controlling everything AKA a Totalitarian Dictatorship.

Libertarians and Conservatives are on the Right (Although there are Leftist currently trying to steal the term Libertarian the way they stole the term Liberal decades ago).

The fundamental defining trait of Conservatives and Libertarians is a desire for Limited Power Govt and a Free Market Economy. The difference between the two is stance on social issues.

Words have meanings, real ones.

I could write a post about how self described conservatives are actually barflies, but that would entail a re definition of the terms "conservative" and "barflies." I could write a post saying that we need to elect more German Shepherds, but that would also entail... Hey, come to think of it, perhaps what we really do need are more German Shepherds. Loyal, intelligent, protective... yes indeed, let's vote the German shepherd party.
 
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