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In the 1990s, Joe Biden said William Barr was "one of the best" attorneys general

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In the 1990s, Joe Biden said William Barr was "one of the best" attorneys general - CBS News

In 1995, Sen. Joe Biden offered high praise for William Barr, the once and future attorney general who has been roundly criticized by Democrats for his handling of special counsel Robert Mueller's report on the 2016 election.

"As I know you know, but others should know, too, I truly enjoyed working with you when you were attorney general," Biden told Barr, who had served as President George H.W. Bush's attorney general in the early 1990s. "You were one of the best I have ever worked with, and there have been a lot of attorneys general since I have been here, and I mean that sincerely."

When Biden made that remark, he was the highest ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Barr, who had moved to the private sector after Bush was defeated in the 1992 election, was testifying at a hearing on "enhancing the effectiveness of incarceration."

Joe Biden has been one of the biggest allies to the Republican Party and Conservatives for almost his entire political career. If you truly feel like William Barr is a political extremist that is causing irreparable harm to American Politics as AG then you cannot vote for Biden who did his best to massage Barr's reputation while Barr pushed to create more prisons and prisoners to fill them with.
 
In the 1990s, Joe Biden said William Barr was "one of the best" attorneys general - CBS News



Joe Biden has been one of the biggest allies to the Republican Party and Conservatives for almost his entire political career. If you truly feel like William Barr is a political extremist that is causing irreparable harm to American Politics as AG then you cannot vote for Biden who did his best to massage Barr's reputation while Barr pushed to create more prisons and prisoners to fill them with.

My whole life I have seen the far left in America whine and throw a fit every time their candidate doesn't win the nomination, and then, because they are like little children, when they don't get all of what they want, they don't settle for 75% of what they want, instead they vote 3rd party or sit out the election so that they get none of what they want when the Republican is elected.

Now mind you, when the far left's preferred candidate did win the nomination: McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, they lost by a landslide every time, but for what ever reason, they seem incapable of learning anything.

So ****ing what if Biden had something nice to say about William Barr nearly 30 years ago. It doesn't change the fact that Biden, on his worst day ever, is still an order of magnitude better than despicable Trump.

Ask yourself, why do minorities not throw these childish fits when their preferred candidate doesn't win the nomination, its because unlike you, with your privilege, they have actually something to ****ing lose if Trump gets reelected.
 
In the 1990s, Joe Biden said William Barr was "one of the best" attorneys general - CBS News

Joe Biden has been one of the biggest allies to the Republican Party and Conservatives for almost his entire political career. If you truly feel like William Barr is a political extremist that is causing irreparable harm to American Politics as AG then you cannot vote for Biden who did his best to massage Barr's reputation while Barr pushed to create more prisons and prisoners to fill them with.

So you’re voting for trump then huh?
 
In the 1990s, Joe Biden said William Barr was "one of the best" attorneys general - CBS News



Joe Biden has been one of the biggest allies to the Republican Party and Conservatives for almost his entire political career. If you truly feel like William Barr is a political extremist that is causing irreparable harm to American Politics as AG then you cannot vote for Biden who did his best to massage Barr's reputation while Barr pushed to create more prisons and prisoners to fill them with.

So you'll help Trump?

This is not an ideal world. It is a binary political system. Help inflict 4 more years of Trump on the nation, the world, and ....goddamn.... that ain't good
 
My whole life I have seen the far left in America whine and throw a fit every time their candidate doesn't win the nomination, and then, because they are like little children, when they don't get all of what they want, they don't settle for 75% of what they want, instead they vote 3rd party or sit out the election so that they get none of what they want when the Republican is elected.

That sounds like a you problem, instead of a me problem. If the Democrats need the Leftist vote, adopt Leftist policies. As it stands, both major parties don't give me any of the policies I want and instead make my life significantly worse.

So ****ing what if Biden had something nice to say about William Barr nearly 30 years ago. It doesn't change the fact that Biden, on his worst day ever, is still an order of magnitude better than despicable Trump.

Joe Biden on his worse day voted for the Iraq war, wrote the Patriot Act, and bullied potential Sexual Assault victims for Republicans.

As yourself, why do minorities not throw these childish fits when their preferred candidate doesn't win the nomination, its because unlike you, with your privilege, they have
something to ****ing lose if Trump gets reelected.

It takes an absurd amount of privilege to believe things are any different under Democrats than with Republicans. Especially with how awful and cruel the Obama administration was to the poor and POC
 
In the 1990s, Joe Biden said William Barr was "one of the best" attorneys general - CBS News



Joe Biden has been one of the biggest allies to the Republican Party and Conservatives for almost his entire political career. If you truly feel like William Barr is a political extremist that is causing irreparable harm to American Politics as AG then you cannot vote for Biden who did his best to massage Barr's reputation while Barr pushed to create more prisons and prisoners to fill them with.

I said stuff back in the 90s that makes me cringe today too. 30 years from now, Sanders and Trump supporters will cringe remembering that.
 
In the 1990s, Joe Biden said William Barr was "one of the best" attorneys general - CBS News



Joe Biden has been one of the biggest allies to the Republican Party and Conservatives for almost his entire political career. If you truly feel like William Barr is a political extremist that is causing irreparable harm to American Politics as AG then you cannot vote for Biden who did his best to massage Barr's reputation while Barr pushed to create more prisons and prisoners to fill them with.

In the 90's people thought the Spice Girls were good. Things can change in 30 years.
 
How sad that Barr became a fascist and a Trump toady
 
That sounds like a you problem, instead of a me problem. If the Democrats need the Leftist vote, adopt Leftist policies. As it stands, both major parties don't give me any of the policies I want and instead make my life significantly worse.



Joe Biden on his worse day voted for the Iraq war, wrote the Patriot Act, and bullied potential Sexual Assault victims for Republicans.



It takes an absurd amount of privilege to believe things are any different under Democrats than with Republicans. Especially with how awful and cruel the Obama administration was to the poor and POC

No, it takes an absurd amount of privilege to think there's no difference between trump and Biden. It must not impact you directly. But black people know Biden delivers for them. That's why they gave him the nomination. Next time, try and find a candidate to support who can comb his hair and condemn Fidel Castro, and you might have a shot. Sheesh.
 
In the 1980's I wore disco clothing and danced to Duran Duran.

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In the 1990s, Joe Biden said William Barr was "one of the best" attorneys general - CBS News



Joe Biden has been one of the biggest allies to the Republican Party and Conservatives for almost his entire political career. If you truly feel like William Barr is a political extremist that is causing irreparable harm to American Politics as AG then you cannot vote for Biden who did his best to massage Barr's reputation while Barr pushed to create more prisons and prisoners to fill them with.

He might have been.

Many people admired Rudy as NY mayor in the early 2000's

How far they have fallen!

All to shill for a psychotic moron.
 
No, it takes an absurd amount of privilege to think there's no difference between trump and Biden. It must not impact you directly. But black people know Biden delivers for them.

That's a bold face lie. Biden started his Senate career working against Civil Rights and enabling mass incarnations of POC. In addition to the crime bills he worked on in the 90s that disproportionality affected Black Americans. The only voters that reliably vote for Biden are the Boomers.

That's why they gave him the nomination. Next time, try and find a candidate to support who can comb his hair and condemn Fidel Castro, and you might have a shot. Sheesh.

Trump is going to walk away with 2020 the same way he did with 2016 and hopefully that will cause the Democratic party to finally die and we can begin moving left.
 
My whole life I have seen the far left in America whine and throw a fit every time their candidate doesn't win the nomination, and then, because they are like little children, when they don't get all of what they want, they don't settle for 75% of what they want, instead they vote 3rd party or sit out the election so that they get none of what they want when the Republican is elected.

Now mind you, when the far left's preferred candidate did win the nomination: McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, they lost by a landslide every time, but for what ever reason, they seem incapable of learning anything.

So ****ing what if Biden had something nice to say about William Barr nearly 30 years ago. It doesn't change the fact that Biden, on his worst day ever, is still an order of magnitude better than despicable Trump.

Ask yourself, why do minorities not throw these childish fits when their preferred candidate doesn't win the nomination, its because unlike you, with your privilege, they have actually something to ****ing lose if Trump gets reelected.

#1: Biden won't give us 25% of what we want, nevermind 75%; get out of here with that absurd nonsense.

#2: Your nonsense 'but muh McGovern' spiel is as tired, ridiculous and inapplicable now as it was months ago, particularly given your selective misinterpretation of their losses as being wholly or chiefly predicated on their political agenda as opposed to the factually more salient reasons underlying their fatal personalities, gaffes and sub-par campaigning. Meanwhile, your precious ****ty centrist candidate literally just lost to probably the worst one the Republicans have ever fielded as the Blue Wall flipped on her, while her centrist colleagues in the party under centrist leadership lost the House and Senate wholesale in a historic blowout, and now, fresh on the heels of that, we're going to war with a guy who smacks of early stage dementia whose campaign wholly subscribes to the same 'referendum on Trump' strategy that failed so egregiously before. It truly is fortunate in some ways this is all set to the backdrop of COVID-19, because otherwise we wouldn't have a hope in hell. Moreover, that someone holds 'far left' and revolutionary/populist policy views is in no way inherently linked to electoral failure; see FDR.

#3: Whether or not Biden is better than Trump, and I would submit that he is, the fact is his track record is on the whole pretty heinous and should be dredged up, discussed and frankly regarded with the contempt it deserves.

#4: You don't know **** about CMPancake, so don't pretend as though you know he doesn't have something to lose.

#5: Your 'far left' (see, actual left), a term you love to throw around in order to delegitimize those you disagree with, is the rest of the developed world's centre to mainstream left.

By the way, I probably will hold my nose and vote for this election's establishment shill again, and while I certainly don't agree that Biden is as bad as Trump, or that there's no substantive difference between the two, I'm frankly sick of seeing people like you try to bully Sanders supporters and others on the actual left with this sort of vapid, disingenuous nonsense should they be less than persuaded to get behind today's quadrennial corporate whore, which is exactly what Biden is, has been, and will be.
 
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That's a bold face lie. Biden started his Senate career working against Civil Rights and enabling mass incarnations of POC. In addition to the crime bills he worked on in the 90s that disproportionality affected Black Americans. The only voters that reliably vote for Biden are the Boomers.



Trump is going to walk away with 2020 the same way he did with 2016 and hopefully that will cause the Democratic party to finally die and we can begin moving left.

So you would rather burn the country down rather then do everything in your power to stop it?
 
That's a bold face lie. Biden started his Senate career working against Civil Rights and enabling mass incarnations of POC. In addition to the crime bills he worked on in the 90s that disproportionality affected Black Americans. The only voters that reliably vote for Biden are the Boomers. Trump is going to walk away with 2020 the same way he did with 2016 and hopefully that will cause the Democratic party to finally die and we can begin moving left.
That is a bold faced lie: the fact is that Biden delivers for blacks.

Trump is going to crater so badly this fall that his victory in 2016 will be investigated for cheating.
 
That is a bold faced lie: the fact is that Biden delivers for blacks.

Trump is going to crater so badly this fall that his victory in 2016 will be investigated for cheating.

Historically speaking, that is a lie. Unless you genuinely believe segregation and mass incarceration of black Americans is helping them.

So you would rather burn the country down rather then do everything in your power to stop it?

I wanted to save the country and supported my compromise candidate. Democrats instead opted to want to lose by nominating a Conservative who doesn't want to save the country.
 
Historically speaking, that is a lie. Unless you genuinely believe segregation and mass incarceration of black Americans is helping them.



I wanted to save the country and supported my compromise candidate. Democrats instead opted to want to lose by nominating a Conservative who doesn't want to save the country.

The people voted and made their choice.
 
Commiepancake has a point, but the liberal crowd is suffering from so much TDS they can't see it.

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My whole life I have seen the far left in America whine and throw a fit every time their candidate doesn't win the nomination, and then, because they are like little children, when they don't get all of what they want, they don't settle for 75% of what they want, instead they vote 3rd party or sit out the election so that they get none of what they want when the Republican is elected.

I think the "far left" (which, as someone else noted, is just the rest of the world's center/slightly left) doesn't believe Biden will give them 75% of what they want. Rather, he will give them 0% of what they want--so there's nothing to choose between him and Trump.

I think it's actually worse than that. I greatly dislike Trump and will never vote for him, but I think Biden will be a worse President, or at best only as good, as Trump. He will be more well-spoken and less "hey, look what I can do!," but in terms of the policies Biden supports, they'll just be back to the slow tilting toward the cyberpunk nightmare that we seem to have been on rails toward since Reagan. If I have to choose between being slowly strangled over a period of many years, or just blowing everything up...I think I'm going to choose blowing everything up.

If your bid to convince the "far left" to vote for the candidate you support is to take an uncharitable stab at their psychology and call them "childish," I'd venture a guess that your strategy is unlikely to be successful.

Now mind you, when the far left's preferred candidate did win the nomination: McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, they lost by a landslide every time, but for what ever reason, they seem incapable of learning anything.

I was alive for Mondale but not really politically aware at the time, so I cannot speak to whether he was really the "far left" candidate--but Dukakis was definitely not. In fact, he was backed by the party precisely because he was the "anti-Mondale" guy. I think the "far left" would have preferred someone like Ted Kennedy or Jesse Jackson.

So ****ing what if Biden had something nice to say about William Barr nearly 30 years ago. It doesn't change the fact that Biden, on his worst day ever, is still an order of magnitude better than despicable Trump.

Simply not true. Biden will support the same corporatist policies that help the wealthy elite get more and more money over time, slowly reduces worker's rights, and continues the program of privatization, marching us step by gradual step toward a future that will be genuinely horrific. That's certainly no better than Trump.

Ask yourself, why do minorities not throw these childish fits when their preferred candidate doesn't win the nomination, its because unlike you, with your privilege, they have actually something to ****ing lose if Trump gets reelected.

I'm not sure where you get your information about minorities (and which minorities you have in mind here), but this doesn't seem correct to me. I know of several Latinx political action groups who supported Bernie in the 2016 primary, and when Hillary got the nomination, they switched their support to Trump, primarily because of the popularity of para joder politics. Not sure about black communities, but Indians in my tribe and neighboring tribes kinda think in a similar vein.
 
I think the "far left" (which, as someone else noted, is just the rest of the world's center/slightly left) doesn't believe Biden will give them 75% of what they want. Rather, he will give them 0% of what they want--so there's nothing to choose between him and Trump.

I think it's actually worse than that. I greatly dislike Trump and will never vote for him, but I think Biden will be a worse President, or at best only as good, as Trump. He will be more well-spoken and less "hey, look what I can do!," but in terms of the policies Biden supports, they'll just be back to the slow tilting toward the cyberpunk nightmare that we seem to have been on rails toward since Reagan. If I have to choose between being slowly strangled over a period of many years, or just blowing everything up...I think I'm going to choose blowing everything up.

If your bid to convince the "far left" to vote for the candidate you support is to take an uncharitable stab at their psychology and call them "childish," I'd venture a guess that your strategy is unlikely to be successful.



I was alive for Mondale but not really politically aware at the time, so I cannot speak to whether he was really the "far left" candidate--but Dukakis was definitely not. In fact, he was backed by the party precisely because he was the "anti-Mondale" guy. I think the "far left" would have preferred someone like Ted Kennedy or Jesse Jackson.



Simply not true. Biden will support the same corporatist policies that help the wealthy elite get more and more money over time, slowly reduces worker's rights, and continues the program of privatization, marching us step by gradual step toward a future that will be genuinely horrific. That's certainly no better than Trump.



I'm not sure where you get your information about minorities (and which minorities you have in mind here), but this doesn't seem correct to me. I know of several Latinx political action groups who supported Bernie in the 2016 primary, and when Hillary got the nomination, they switched their support to Trump, primarily because of the popularity of para joder politics. Not sure about black communities, but Indians in my tribe and neighboring tribes kinda think in a similar vein.

Blowing everything up is never an option.

Politics is the art of possible, that is the political philosophy I subscribe to.
 
So? Throughout the 1990's Trump was Bill Clinton's biggest supporter. In 2005 Trump had them at his wedding. In 2008 Trump said Hillary would make a good president. Even in 2013, as already a registered Republican and Birther, he was STILL praising Hillary Clinton. What Biden said 25-30 years ago is irrelevant to now, especially in the era of Trump where a candidates past, even recent past, doesn't matter in the slightest.
 
So? Throughout the 1990's Trump was Bill Clinton's biggest supporter. In 2005 Trump had them at his wedding. In 2008 Trump said Hillary would make a good president. Even in 2013, as already a registered Republican and Birther, he was STILL praising Hillary Clinton.

[A liberal once again seeing the point and blasting by it entirely.]
 
That's a bold face lie. Biden started his Senate career working against Civil Rights and enabling mass incarnations of POC. In addition to the crime bills he worked on in the 90s that disproportionality affected Black Americans. The only voters that reliably vote for Biden are the Boomers.

You know better than all the Black voters that gave Biden the primary then, huh?

Trump is going to walk away with 2020 the same way he did with 2016 and hopefully that will cause the Democratic party to finally die and we can begin moving left.

And you know the future too. Wow. Trump's going to win and that's going to begin moving us left. That makes a lot of sense.
 
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I said stuff back in the 90s that makes me cringe today too. 30 years from now, Sanders and Trump supporters will cringe remembering that.

30 years ago he was 47. That's still older than what I am now. Can I get a pre-excuse pass right now for anything I say that might be stupid?
 
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