Call it whatever you want, but it's not "market-based."
Hmmm...are the companies that participate in the exchanges all fronts for the CIA or some other government agency, or are they private-sector companies? Do they not compete for customers? Of course the exchanges are market-based.
Aside from your analogy which I will address below - The DSA are are socialists. Socialists despise capitalism in the same way I, as a capitalist, despise socialism.
You seem to be conflating capitalism with market economics. Capitalism is not the only system in which private enterprise and market economics can exist. Arguably, capitalism is the worst of those systems. You also seem to be attributing roughly your own emotional attunement to the world to everyone else--which seems ill-advised because unlikely to be right.
The problem with your analogy is "carnal pleasures" is broad, while private profit is specific.
Why is that a problem? The analogy was to show how we use the term "based on" in contemporary discourse. We use this term in the same way whether or not whether or not what a system is based on is broad or specific. To say that person P "rejects a system based on X" is not the same as to say that P rejects all instances of X. It merely means that P rejects systems that treat X as some kind of inalterable fundamental. Now P may
also reject X, but to know whether or not that's true, P would need to say something else. P's merely saying she rejects a system based on X is not enough to know whether she rejects X wholesale.
I can't believe you are arguing that democratic socialists don't want to eliminate capitalism. Here is more evidence:
Depends on what you mean by "capitalism." The DSA website specifies what they want to eliminate, in the same article of their constitution you've quoted:
We are socialists because we reject an economic order based on private profit, alienated labor, gross inequalities of wealth and power, discrimination based on race, sex, sexual orientation, gender expression, disability status, age, religion, and national origin, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo.
Notice that phrase "based on" again. Rejecting an economic system "based on" private profit is not the same as rejecting private profit--though of course they might want to reject private profits. However, as the passage I've quoted twice explains, in fact they do not want to eliminate private profits or market economics altogether.
If a group of "workers" own a firm and are competing for profits in a market economy, then the workers are capitalists.
Quite odd, then, that socialists are suggesting exactly that.
The DSA goes way beyond that
Not clear, as section 2 of your own link states:
Our vision of democratic socialism is necessarily partial and speculative, and is in no way intended to be a blueprint for a democratic socialist society. To the contrary, the specific contours of the future to which we aspire will be democratically determined not by us, but rather by those who live it. Further, DSA members will — and should — disagree on specific aspects of this vision.
As I said, I know members of the DSA (though I am not one myself), and they've never mentioned anything about the auto or steel industries. I don't know how many people wrote the document at your link, but as they say, it'd merely be their own vision. The goal is not to impose a system of power from above, but rather, to allow people to vote on the administration of power that actually affects their lives.
Seriously, this doesn't constitute "far left" to you?
No. It's center-left in places like Canada, England, France, Norway, etc. It's merely extreme here in the U.S., which is generally more conservative than much of the rest of the world.
