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Buttigieg busts out to first place in Iowa

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Buttigieg busts out to first place in Iowa - POLITICO

Pete Buttigieg has soared to the top of the Democratic field in Iowa, according to the state’s latest flagship poll released Saturday.
Buttigieg easily outpaced the field with 25 percent support, a 16-point gain from September, according to the Des Moines Register/CNN/Mediacom survey. Three candidates were statistically tied for second: Elizabeth Warren at 16 percent, and Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders at 15 percent. ...
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i am pleasantly surprised that mayor pete is leading in such a conservative, evangelical state. i had no idea a gay man would lead the pack in a state such as iowa

it would seem pete's political approach is more significant to the primary voters than his sexual orientation

kudos to iowa... or at least to 25% of its democratic voters
 
Buttigieg has been a favorite of mine since the beginning.

OK, he is not a mayor of a "big" city. Got that.

But he is extremely intelligent, even-leveled, and former military. Plus, he is a mayor of a good sized city.

He already has more experience in matters of governance and federal service than the incumbent.

I have the "dream ticket": Mayor Pete and Tammy Duckworth. Sure, she has not been mentioned, but I think the combo would totally confound Trump. Pete, the ex-military gay guy mayor and Duckworth, the ex-military handicapped woman. He would **** this up so royally that most of America would finally hate him.
 
I doubt Pete will be the candidate in the end, but I really hope someone taps him for the VP slot.
 
Airyaman said:
Buttigieg has been a favorite of mine since the beginning.

OK, he is not a mayor of a "big" city. Got that.

But he is extremely intelligent, even-leveled, and former military. Plus, he is a mayor of a good sized city.

He already has more experience in matters of governance and federal service than the incumbent.

I have the "dream ticket": Mayor Pete and Tammy Duckworth. Sure, she has not been mentioned, but I think the combo would totally confound Trump. Pete, the ex-military gay guy mayor and Duckworth, the ex-military handicapped woman. He would **** this up so royally that most of America would finally hate him.
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I liked him and Yang from the beginning.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
I doubt Pete will be the candidate in the end, but I really hope someone taps him for the VP slot.
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Hopefully Pete's impressive rise in the polls in conservative Iowa generates a more open-minded view of his elect-ability nationally.

His ground game, much like Obama in 2008, reflects a high level of competency. Unlike Trump, I believe as POTUS he would put together a team much more earnest in pursuing the betterment of society.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
I doubt Pete will be the candidate in the end, but I really hope someone taps him for the VP slot.
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you know, i hear that about pete a lot. he cannot be elected because he is gay
from people who like what he has to say. who themselves don't care about his sexual orientation

it reminds me of people who say the public school system sucks but their kids' school is great. or that politicians don't do anything but their own elected congressman is a good representative. we generalize that something in a macro sense is inferior while the micro experience we have is a positive one. which then leads me to believe we should support the candidate we most believe in, not necessarily the one who we feel might be the one most likely to win. and who knows, the better candidate may prevail because we did not settle for the lesser candidate
 
He's not "leading", he's "substantially leading"! By 9 points, head & shoulders above the rest of the field!

I've been behind him for a bit now, and after this I'm now all-in! Do we perhaps have another Obama in the making? The dark horse with little experience and no name recognition, that comes out of nowhere? One can hope!

He is my favorite candidate. I thought I'd have to vote for a candidate several rungs down. But now? I'm excited that my #1 pick is looking good - for now at least. The real test will be NC and the all critical A-A vote.

But for now, I'm extremely pleased. :thumbs:

And let's not forget the Des Moines Register may be the highest quality poll in the country. I forgot the women's name that's their pollster, but her record is stellar. I saw her in a comprehensive interview, and she's the real deal.
 
Pete's a smart guy, I love what he has to say, and how he says it.
 
It looks like Warren's surge is stalling out. Her M4A plan hasn't been received as sellable among the broader Democratic base, and so 'swingy' states with more moderate white voters are spooked that Warren is a risky bet in a general election, and thus Pete has been rising fast.

I think that Warren is bound to do well in NH, Colorado, and states with younger liberals and women, while Biden will be the frontrunner in southern states and places with older whites. Now it looks like Pete could be a spoiler in some of these races, but in how many remains to be seen.

If we see Pete poll well in NH and Nevada and lead a poll or two, then we might be seeing an Obama level last-minute surge to the top.
 
Mach said:
Pete's a smart guy, I love what he has to say, and how he says it.
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Yep.

He's polite and reasonable, without looking weak in the process.
 
Chomsky said:
He's not "leading", he's "substantially leading"! By 9 points, head & shoulders above the rest of the field!

I've been behind him for a bit now, and after this I'm now all-in! Do we perhaps have another Obama in the making? The dark horse with little experience and no name recognition, that comes out of nowhere? One can hope!

He is my favorite candidate. I thought I'd have to vote for a candidate several rungs down. But now? I'm excited that my #1 pick is looking good - for now at least. The real test will be NC and the all critical A-A vote.

But for now, I'm extremely pleased. :thumbs:

And let's not forget the Des Moines Register may be the highest quality poll in the country. I forgot the women's name that's their pollster, but her record is stellar. I saw her in a comprehensive interview, and she's the real deal.
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Let's all remember that Iowa has been a big loser for the last three Republican primary winners, and that could be the case here.

McCain finished a distant third in Iowa behind Huckabee, then McCain went on to dominate Super Tuesday, and Huckabee faded fast. Santorum and Cruz beat Romney and Trump to the Iowa win, and then the same thing happened on Super Tuesday.

I get the feeling we might see that happen to us. It's possible the person who wins Iowa and NH could struggle beyond that, because the demographics of the states that follow are very different, which could shake-up the race a second time.
 
Black and Hispanic primary voters are not going to vote for some white, condescending, gay politician who couldn't even deal with racial issues in his own town.
 
justabubba said:
Buttigieg busts out to first place in Iowa - POLITICO



i am pleasantly surprised that mayor pete is leading in such a conservative, evangelical state. i had no idea a gay man would lead the pack in a state such as iowa

it would seem pete's political approach is more significant to the primary voters than his sexual orientation

kudos to iowa... or at least to 25% of its democratic voters
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Yes his tremendous experience and success in his roll as mayor of South Bend make him immensely qualified. LOL.
 
MovingPictures said:
It looks like Warren's surge is stalling out. Her M4A plan hasn't been received as sellable among the broader Democratic base, and so 'swingy' states with more moderate white voters are spooked that Warren is a risky bet in a general election, and thus Pete has been rising fast.

I think that Warren is bound to do well in NH, Colorado, and states with younger liberals and women, while Biden will be the frontrunner in southern states and places with older whites. Now it looks like Pete could be a spoiler in some of these races, but in how many remains to be seen.

If we see Pete poll well in NH and Nevada and lead a poll or two, then we might be seeing an Obama level last-minute surge to the top.
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Obama warned the "democrat hopefuls" not to go too far left...but I think he meant for them not to be like Warren. I'm glad she's stalling out. Glad for Buttigieg...he's worked hard to get this far.
 
aociswundumho said:
Black and Hispanic primary voters are not going to vote for some white, condescending, gay politician who couldn't even deal with racial issues in his own town.
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They're not going to vote for some orange, arrogant, lying racist, either. Anyway, Buttigeig could just pick Castro to get the Hispanic vote. Or... he could pick a certain black woman and get all the votes. :)
 
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Moot said:
They're not going to vote for some orange, arrogant, lying, racist, either. Anyway, Buttigeig could just pick Castro to get the Hispanic vote. Or he could pick a certain black woman and get all the votes.
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Are you speaking of Michelle, if she were receptive? Now that would be some ticket!
 
Chomsky said:
Are you speaking of Michelle, if she were receptive? Now that would be some ticket!
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Yes. It sure would...and it would hit most of the check marks. Ooo, the more I think about it the giddier I get. lol
 
Moot said:
Yes. It sure would...and it would hit most of the check marks. Ooo, the more I think about it the giddier I get. lol
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She would also be setting herself-up for a run at the top slot in 9 years, should her & Buttigieg succeed in 2020. She would be 64 then, which is still young enough to do 8.
 
Chomsky said:
She would also be setting herself-up for a run at the top slot in 9 years, should her & Buttigieg succeed in 2020. She would be 64 then, which is still young enough to do 8.
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A lot of people want her to run for president...but that would be so much better if she was VP first and then on to the presidency. It sure is fun to think about.
 
Moot said:
A lot of people want her to run for president...but that would be so much better if she was VP first and then on to the presidency. It sure is fun to think about.
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Trust me, I'd prefer she run for Pres. She's stronger than any current Dem in the field, and would put an end to Trump post haste. But she indicated she doesn't want to put herself and her family through it all. However, I wonder if she'd feel better about it as a Veep?
 
Chomsky said:
Trust me, I'd prefer she run for Pres. She's stronger than any current Dem in the field, and would put an end to Trump post haste. But she indicated she doesn't want to put herself and her family through it all. However, I wonder if she'd feel better about it as a Veep?
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Not sure, but I think the deadline for filing may have passed. But yeah, she'd make a good president...but I like the idea of her being VP first...since she's never held an office before. If she was VP she would get that experience and that would help make her a more qualified candidate for president...imo.
 
1. Yes, congratulations to Mayor Pete.

2. But we all know that he cannot win nationally, for there are STILL a lot of people who abhor (at least in public) his romantic life.

3. In fact, the United States of America may NEVER be ready for someone who has a similar romantic life, for the changing population profile in this country consists of more and more people who say (at least in public) that such a romantic life is immoral and evil.

4. Hopefully, Mayor Pete will get a good appointive office in the administration of President Biden.
 
MovingPictures said:
If we see Pete poll well in NH and Nevada ...
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Nevada - slowly moving up - only up to 8% now... but hey, something is happening in NH... He is now in 2nd place along with Warren and Sanders, only 5% behind Biden, and importantly, the only one with momentum, i.e. numbers moving higher among front runners

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Moot said:
They're not going to vote for some orange, arrogant, lying racist, either.
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You sound very angry, and seem to be in the late stages of TDS.

Anyway, I was referring to primary voters.

Anyway, Buttigeig could just pick Castro to get the Hispanic vote.
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Suggesting that Hispanics will only vote for other Hispanics. A nice example of soft bigotry.
 
aociswundumho said:
You sound very angry, and seem to be in the late stages of TDS.

Anyway, I was referring to primary voters.



Suggesting that Hispanics will only vote for other Hispanics. A nice example of soft bigotry.
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You sound creepy...just like your master.

Suggesting that Blacks and Hispanics wouldn't vote for a gay guy is bigotry. I'm surprised you didn't know that since racism and bigotry seems to be your MO.
 
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