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Will Trump refuse to concede if he loses the vote in 2020?

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This definitely falls under the "Partisan Politics" category but with a touch of "Conspiracy Theories."

Trump's outrageous claims of voter fraud have a clear goal: Refusing to accept defeat in 2020
There is no voter fraud; no one's ever found any. But Trump is sowing fears he can use to undermine the 2020 vote

A brand new Fox News poll shows Donald Trump well behind the top four Democratic candidates for president, with Joe Biden topping the list at 12 points ahead of Trump. Don’t get happy, though, or else we “tempt the wrath of whatever from high atop the thing,” to quote "The West Wing." We’re still a long way from the 2020 election and roughly a gazillion things could dramatically alter the landscape of the campaign.

Trump, on the other hand, is totally losing his shpadoinkle over the poll results.

He’s becoming so unravelled about the prospect of electoral defeat that he’s beginning to establish a pretext, or a series of pretexts, for challenging the results of the election if the polling turns out to be accurate. Primarily, Trump’s looking at voter fraud and social media as skewing the ultimate results in favor of the Democrats. Yes, the new “unskewed polls” guy is the president of the United States.
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Has any investigation ever found that an election result in the past 50 years was the result of voter fraud?
 
Somerville said:
This definitely falls under the "Partisan Politics" category but with a touch of "Conspiracy Theories."



Has any investigation ever found that an election result in the past 50 years was the result of voter fraud?
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If he truly believes that he isn't going to win re-election, then he would probably decline to run again.
 
Would it matter?

I expect if he lost he might want to but I expect he would be told by his aides that will not do anything, and could land him in major legal trouble. So now I doubt he would contest the election if he lost other than in a big tweet storm, the biggest the world has ever seen of course
 
Somerville said:
This definitely falls under the "Partisan Politics" category but with a touch of "Conspiracy Theories."



Has any investigation ever found that an election result in the past 50 years was the result of voter fraud?
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Presidential? Nixon's loss to JFK could have been voter fraud in both Illinois and Texas. Nixon was urged by his supporters to contest them, but Nixon choose not too. The thinking was Daley's Chicago Machine, the vote often and early crowd manipulated Illinois results along with LBJ's Texas machine. Whether true or not, I suppose each individual can come to his own conclusions.

Was Nixon Robbed?

I really can't think of a presidential election since where there was as strong evidence of back in 1960. Now in Minnesota's senate election where Franken defeated Coleman by 312 votes there was strong evidence of voter fraud.

Access Denied

York: When 1,099 felons vote in race won by 312 ballots
 
Somerville said:
This definitely falls under the "Partisan Politics" category but with a touch of "Conspiracy Theories."



Has any investigation ever found that an election result in the past 50 years was the result of voter fraud?
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Trying to make mountains out of nothingburgers again, eh?
 
I made a thread about this and simply the possibility that he may refuse to concede if he lost, he may eventually renege but some people called me a looney toon... even though he already indicated he would engage in that very behaviour before 2016.

I know using Trumps own words and actions to predict what he MIGHT do is totally the stuff of nut cases. /sarcasm

We shall see.
 
Somerville said:
This definitely falls under the "Partisan Politics" category but with a touch of "Conspiracy Theories."



Has any investigation ever found that an election result in the past 50 years was the result of voter fraud?
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I wouldn’t be surprised if he failed to concede. He would definitely use some nationalist excuse for his behavior like he can’t conceded, because only he can protect America and illegals tipped the vote. Get rid of Trump at America's demise, because nobody has ever actually loved America but Trump
 
Jetboogieman said:
I made a thread about this and simply the possibility that he may refuse to concede if he lost, he may eventually renege but some people called me a looney toon... even though he already indicated he would engage in that very behaviour before 2016.

I know using Trumps own words and actions to predict what he MIGHT do is totally the stuff of nut cases. /sarcasm

We shall see.
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Seems he is going to have serious legal issues once he is gone. I imagine he wants to stay, so the office protects him.
 
Somerville said:
This definitely falls under the "Partisan Politics" category but with a touch of "Conspiracy Theories."



Has any investigation ever found that an election result in the past 50 years was the result of voter fraud?
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If he loses, I don't think Trump will concede. I think he will claim voter fraud and do everything he can to discredit the election until the inauguration. He will leave office on inauguration day, but I'm not sure he'll attend the ceremony.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Would it matter?

I expect if he lost he might want to but I expect he would be told by his aides that will not do anything, and could land him in major legal trouble. So now I doubt he would contest the election if he lost other than in a big tweet storm, the biggest the world has ever seen of course
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I believe people and aides will tell him to concede, but I think his natural instinct will be to refuse. I do expect such comments to be leaked, he will tweet his desire to not leave, and he will reveal his true colors on TV. For sure, people around him will try to talk him out of it.
 
Somerville said:
This definitely falls under the "Partisan Politics" category but with a touch of "Conspiracy Theories."



Has any investigation ever found that an election result in the past 50 years was the result of voter fraud?
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Trump is a scorched earth kid of loser.

I’m sure he will openly speculate over extending his term unilaterally (he already has), and he will make allegations of voter fraud (he already has).

But, I think he will enjoy the right wing blog world, talk radio land, and evangelical fundraising more.

He can bellow and strut, and never have to be accountable.

Which is where he really prefers to be.
 
Based upon the last couple of years, the real question is would the DEMOCRAT concede should he or she lose to trump?
 
TomFitz said:
Trump is a scorched earth kid of loser.

I’m sure he will openly speculate over extending his term unilaterally (he already has), and he will make allegations of voter fraud (he already has).

But, I think he will enjoy the right wing blog world, talk radio land, and evangelical fundraising more.

He can bellow and strut, and never have to be accountable.

Which is where he really prefers to be.
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He bellows and struts without being held accountable now. The difference would be the loss of presidential perks and "rock star" quality attention. He'll miss that.
 
SheWolf said:
I wouldn’t be surprised if he failed to concede. He would definitely use some nationalist excuse for his behavior like he can’t conceded, because only he can protect America and illegals tipped the vote. Get rid of Trump at America's demise, because nobody has ever actually loved America but Trump
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Your opinion borders on the absurd.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I made a thread about this and simply the possibility that he may refuse to concede if he lost, he may eventually renege but some people called me a looney toon... even though he already indicated he would engage in that very behaviour before 2016.

I know using Trumps own words and actions to predict what he MIGHT do is totally the stuff of nut cases. /sarcasm

We shall see.
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That’s what kills me about some of these people. You hear his own words saying it, and they deny it.
 
I see him branching out to owning and running a political cable station if he should not be reelected.
 
Trump said he "may" not accept the results of the Nov. '16 election, and reserved the right to file a legal challenge.
He never said, he would.
 
trixare4kids said:
Trump said he "may" not accept the results of the Nov. '16 election, and reserved the right to file a legal challenge.
He never said, he would.
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He's the one who brought up the possibility. To me that indicates that he would at least consider it.
 
trixare4kids said:
Your opinion borders on the absurd.
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I use to think a lot of things would be absurd for any president to do and yet this president has dropped the bar so low the prestige and honor of his position has become severely tarnished. His mouth, his using Twitter to make announcements, as well as attacking anyone and everyone who doesn't promote "him". Never in my lifetime did I think I'd see a potus attack a Gold star family and people would literally suggest "they had it coming". So at this point? If I woke up tomorrow to find out he'd decided the WH should be painted orange, I'd not be shocked to see people actually jumping on board with it.

As far as him conceding? He'd be ranting and raving all the way to the grave how the election was stolen from him. That much is a given.
 
What if Trump loses the vote but decides to take it to the Supreme Court with its 5-4 conservative majority?

Trump has shown a willingness to tie up his disputes in long term lawsuits hoping his opponents will give up or run out of the funds to pay their legal team.

Constitutional law expert, Jonathan Turley in an interview said: “All candidates have a right to contest results in federal court. “It’s not up to the candidate to decide if an election is valid. It’s not based on their satisfaction or consent. They have every right to seek judicial review.”
 
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SheWolf said:
Trump is an admitted nationalist
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na·tion·al·ist
/ˈnaSH(ə)nələst/
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noun
1.
a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
 
trixare4kids said:
na·tion·al·ist
/ˈnaSH(ə)nələst/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.
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I know very well what nationalism is. My understanding goes far beyond a dictionary definition, but I suspect yours doesn’t. Because you lack knowledge on this matter, you also failed to recognize I was parodying classic nationalist rhetoric.
 
It seems to me it was Hillary and the democrats that brought this up last election about Trump accepting defeat. But it was Hillary and the democrats who have still not accepted defeat. So I think Trump will accept defeat unless he changes parties.

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Somerville said:
This definitely falls under the "Partisan Politics" category but with a touch of "Conspiracy Theories."



Has any investigation ever found that an election result in the past 50 years was the result of voter fraud?
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