Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 5678 LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 76

Thread: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

  1. #61
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    47,080

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Do you want a pretty president who talks good?
    Or one who knows what needs done and does it?
    And you got neither.

    Spare me your little pity party about how you had "no choice." You had a choice, and you chose a criminal asshole who is personally profiting from the presidency in a way nobody ever has. He lies incessantly, especially to promote his little vanity project on the southern border that won't do jack shit to stop illegal immigration or the drug trade. He's Putin's bitch. He's surrounded himself with morons, yes-men and grifters. He's an utter embarrassment on the international stage, kissing the asses of dictators like Putin, Erdogan and Duterte while pissing all over our traditional, natural allies.

    "Commitment and energy." PUH-LEEZE. He's lazy. He does virtually no work. It's amazing how badly this guy has suckered so many. Trump supporters are the most gullible people on the planet.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  2. #62
    Transcend~
    Empirica's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Lost at Sea
    Last Seen
    01-16-19 @ 09:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    3,858

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    a-you had a choice
    b- he isn't the worst public speaker, he just ad libs while others read.
    Quote Originally Posted by JMR View Post
    You had plenty of choice. And if you had used it then, you would not need to be developing streams of BS now to make yourself feel better. JMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by JacksinPA View Post
    You had a choice & you made the wrong one. I just hope the U.S. is stll here in 2 years so we can vote to end this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Airyaman View Post
    There are several choices. Not voting can be a choice, if there are no good candidates. That was my choice in 2016. I could not vote for Clinton and I was certainly not going to vote for Trump, so I chose to not vote for anyone for president.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    And you got neither.

    Spare me your little pity party about how you had "no choice." You had a choice, and you chose a criminal asshole who is personally profiting from the presidency in a way nobody ever has.
    Please allow me to explain...The reason I had "no choice" wasn't for lack of an opposing candidate.

    It was because Trump was the only candidate to address the issues that were at the top of my list of importance.

    Not only did he address the issues; he was the only candidate to offer common sense solutions that I agreed with.

    All other candidates were wrapped up too tight in Political Correctness to even address them much less deal with them!

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I'm not about to apologize for my vote for Trump.

    I had two choices. Clinton or Trump. As far as I am concerned I chose correctly.
    You may have misunderstood my point, Vesper.

    This thread is in no way an "apology" for voting for Trump.

    Like you, I simply explained the reasoning behind my decision.

    I fought Trump all the way to the convention. I was involved in the anti-Trump movement to have him removed. But when reality set in, I had two choices and I made the right choice.

    While Trump isn't an eloquent speaker and at times can be so honest makes both sides of the aisle uncomfortable, he in two years has basically overturned just about everything Obama and the left did to this country in 8 years. He has pretty much erased it. And being someone who felt Obama's policies/ideology were very bad for this country and often unconstitutional I am delighted with the results.

    He has passed bi-partisan legislation on things people talked about for years but never got together and did it like prison reform and VA reform. That man has gotten more done in two years that most presidents don't accomplish in a full term.

    One of the greatest tasks a president has is nominating jurists to the Supreme Court. And Republicans are delighted in his choices. They are constitutionalists. He in two years has already had an impact on the face of the courts.

    He has also gone against big Pharma which some in his own party don't like. But has lowered prescription prices. Hubby and I are both senior citizens and we saw a big deduction in the cost of medication.

    He's gone against the Chamber of Commerce who fills the coffers of many Congress critters to keep our boarders more open for cheap labor.

    He has gone against members of his own party and found support among some Democrats when it comes to trade.

    He has gone against members in his own party to start to bring our troops home.

    The guy has done stuff I never imagined. His desire to keep his promises to the American people is refreshing. And come 2020 all the 30 some possible Democrats running don't impress me. And I would not hesitating in voting for Trump again.
    I have never seen a president so hellbent on keeping his promises. How refreshing.
    This two year Anti-Trump/Hate Campaign orchestrated by the Democrat Party/Establishment Republicans and fed by the Progressive Fake News/MSM failed to brainwash a significant number of Americans that are now loyal Trump Supporters.

    A group which many believe has continued quietly growing its support base with covert converts.
    Violation of any US Immigration Law is a Major Crime.....because:
    When a crime is tolerated ~ it becomes flagrant
    When a crime is rewarded ~ it becomes epidemic

    No Amnesty No Exception

  3. #63
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    47,080

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    This two year Anti-Trump/Hate Campaign orchestrated by the Democrat Party/Establishment Republicans and fed by the Progressive Fake News/MSM failed to brainwash a significant number of Americans that are now loyal Trump Supporters.
    Yes, there it is. Anyone who doesn't like Trump is brainwashed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    A group which many believe has continued quietly growing its support base with covert converts.
    Many believe that, because many are wrong. "Covert converts." LOL.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  4. #64
    Transcend~
    Empirica's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Lost at Sea
    Last Seen
    01-16-19 @ 09:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    3,858

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    And you got neither.

    Spare me your little pity party about how you had "no choice." You had a choice, and you chose a criminal asshole who is personally profiting from the presidency in a way nobody ever has. He lies incessantly, especially to promote his little vanity project on the southern border that won't do jack shit to stop illegal immigration or the drug trade. He's Putin's bitch. He's surrounded himself with morons, yes-men and grifters. He's an utter embarrassment on the international stage, kissing the asses of dictators like Putin, Erdogan and Duterte while pissing all over our traditional, natural allies.

    "Commitment and energy." PUH-LEEZE. He's lazy. He does virtually no work. It's amazing how badly this guy has suckered so many. Trump supporters are the most gullible people on the planet.
    Wanna know what's really amazing?!

    How the gullible liberal masses so thoroughly got suckered in by two years of perpetual propaganda, lies, fake news, and corrupt government agencies, all of which are the same standard socialist tactics used throughout history despite the availability and easy access to the countless books and writings by a multitude of Marxist authors and revolutionaries.

    Marxist authors that glorify government while teaching the tried&true methods of political subversion and ideo-indoctrination,(which the gullible liberals repeatedly fall for) and finally the beautiful Utopia where all wants and needs are provided by a benevolent government in which you people will place all your trust in to decide your lives.

    If the left wins; this will be the future and you and yours will be the truly amazing suckers.
    Violation of any US Immigration Law is a Major Crime.....because:
    When a crime is tolerated ~ it becomes flagrant
    When a crime is rewarded ~ it becomes epidemic

    No Amnesty No Exception

  5. #65
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    47,080

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Wanna know what's really amazing?!

    How the gullible liberal masses so thoroughly got suckered in by two years of perpetual propaganda, lies, fake news, and corrupt government agencies, all of which are the same standard socialist tactics used throughout history despite the availability and easy access to the countless books and writings by a multitude of Marxist authors and revolutionaries.

    Marxist authors that glorify government while teaching the tried&true methods of political subversion and ideo-indoctrination,(which the gullible liberals repeatedly fall for) and finally the beautiful Utopia where all wants and needs are provided by a benevolent government in which you people will place all your trust in to decide your lives.

    If the left wins; this will be the future and you and yours will be the truly amazing suckers.
    SHORTER EMPIRICA: Nuh uh, you're gullible

    The funny thing is that the "two years of lies" is that the lies have been coming from Trump. The news coverage of him has been remarkably accurate, all things considered. Despite what your Orange God tells you, it ain't "fake news" that he's a corrupt POS.

    The rest of your post is utter gobshite.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  6. #66
    Tenacious
    Lursa's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Outside Seattle
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,078

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Let's face it folks; trying to dismiss Trump as "eccentric" takes the definition to a whole new level.

    I'm sure a lot of my fellow "deploribles" will agree that being a Trump Supporter can be difficult.

    He's obviously a bit gruff with crude mannerisms and can be totally belligerent at times without warning.

    Most of all; Donald Trump is without a doubt the absolute worst public speaker ever elected to POTUS.

    And being totally aware of this before the election why would I say I had no choice but to vote for Trump?

    Why? Because no other Presidential Candidate has ever acknowledged both the internal and external forces that have been systematically dismantling the foundation of our nation's sovereignty and freedom.

    No other candidate; whether Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, or whatever, has ever even dared to discuss the taboo issues or solutions that might actually make America great again.(for lack of a better term)

    So; yes I would prefer a smooth talking President with a beautiful face and friendly smile who could blow sunshine up the butts of all those doubter/critics and convert them to loyal deplorible followers.

    But; until that well-mannered, debonair, silver tongued, saint comes along complete with Trump's agenda, commitment, and energy; we'll just have to settle for 'mr belligerent' awhile longer.

    ie; It's a matter of the most basic priorities:
    Do you want a pretty president who talks good?
    Or one who knows what needs done and does it?
    You assume he wanted the presidency to make America better

    He wanted the presidendency to be president. Period.

    Since he was such an underdog, there wouldn't even have been a downside for him...he'd still have bragging rights over 'taking on the Establishment'.

    And he never even believed he'd win so he was not remotely prepared to follow thru. So you fell for a bunch of pandering and rhetoric that he just used to do exactly has your observed: seem 'different.'

    As if 'different' is by definition better
    Quote Originally Posted by SDET View Post
    Being subject to a dictator is a whole lot better than a false sexual misconduct accusation from "#MeToo".
    Quote Originally Posted by gulfman View Post
    All I need to know when I vote is that the candidate has an r after their name.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

  7. #67
    Transcend~
    Empirica's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Lost at Sea
    Last Seen
    01-16-19 @ 09:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    3,858

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You assume he wanted the presidency to make America better

    He wanted the presidendency to be president. Period.

    Since he was such an underdog, there wouldn't even have been a downside for him...he'd still have bragging rights over 'taking on the Establishment'.

    And he never even believed he'd win so he was not remotely prepared to follow thru. So you fell for a bunch of pandering and rhetoric that he just used to do exactly has your observed: seem 'different.'

    As if 'different' is by definition better
    His populous shared policies, 1st term accomplishments, and all those anti-Trump establishment elites dedicated to destroying him; very much dispels your opinion.

    Which is pretty much the same ideo-political opinion promoted by desperate Progressive MSM/Democrat Elites and Establishment GOP Hierarchy which have obviously all been your primary influence for years; maybe even decades.

    Maybe if you were to re-focus all that energy and observation at the ideo-political struggle for control of civilization which has been underway for well over a century, you might awaken to what few others have discovered about the true nature of the global forces involved.

    But 1st you'll have to vacate the comfort and safety of the BOX and begin the lonely quest for 'truth' as opposed to the usual search for only that which validates your current reality.

    This will of course require the one thing most difficult for any human being to ever hope to obtain...An open mind.
    Violation of any US Immigration Law is a Major Crime.....because:
    When a crime is tolerated ~ it becomes flagrant
    When a crime is rewarded ~ it becomes epidemic

    No Amnesty No Exception

  8. #68
    Transcend~
    Empirica's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Lost at Sea
    Last Seen
    01-16-19 @ 09:50 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    3,858

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yes, there it is. Anyone who doesn't like Trump is brainwashed!
    That's ridiculous Kobie...The left has been brainwashed since long before Trump came along.

    The Progressive controlled News/MSM, Entertainment Industry, Academia, and Teachers Unions have been indoctrinating the gullible masses for generations.

    Did you actually believe that millions of people woke up one morning and all on their own decided they hated the US Constitution, capitalism, and basically everything American?!

    Paleeze!

    Many believe that, because many are wrong. "Covert converts." LOL.
    People are being fired from their jobs, verbally assaulted and even physically assaulted; simply for supporting Donald Trump.

    So are you laughing at the idea of there being Trump converts or simply that people would do so on the down-low?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    SHORTER EMPIRICA: Nuh uh, you're gullible

    The funny thing is that the "two years of lies" is that the lies have been coming from Trump. The news coverage of him has been remarkably accurate, all things considered. Despite what your Orange God tells you, it ain't "fake news" that he's a corrupt POS.
    The "two years of lies" your left-wing Fake News Media has been force-feeding to the gullible masses for two years nonstop is so extremely flawed that it's ridiculously obvious.

    Only the simplest of minds can't figure out that the majority of those "lies" are actually the result of Trump being the most accessible President in US history and 80% of everything he says in public is ad-lib and spontaneous.

    Trump is obviously no politician and undoubtedly the least graceful public speaker in the history of politics.

    Even a double-digit IQ could figure out that a mix of spontaneity and ad-lib with a handicap at public speaking opens the door to false accusations of lying, memory issues, stupidity, and ignorance.

    These things make Trump a prime target for political adversaries and dishonest agenda-driven News Media.

    Pro-Trumps know this and ignore the rhetoric while Anti-Trumps believe anything that feeds their hate.
    Violation of any US Immigration Law is a Major Crime.....because:
    When a crime is tolerated ~ it becomes flagrant
    When a crime is rewarded ~ it becomes epidemic

    No Amnesty No Exception

  9. #69
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    47,080

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    That's ridiculous Kobie...The left has been brainwashed since long before Trump came along.

    The Progressive controlled News/MSM, Entertainment Industry, Academia, and Teachers Unions have been indoctrinating the gullible masses for generations.

    Did you actually believe that millions of people woke up one morning and all on their own decided they hated the US Constitution, capitalism, and basically everything American?!

    Paleeze!
    It amazes me how ignorant you are of what liberals actually believe, instead choosing to spout off your idiotic lies that have been crammed into your face by Rush Limbaugh.

    The truism holds: With conservatives, it's always projection.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  10. #70
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    47,080

    Re: I confess, I voted for Trump; but I had no choice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    That's ridiculous Kobie...The left has been brainwashed since long before Trump came along.

    The Progressive controlled News/MSM, Entertainment Industry, Academia, and Teachers Unions have been indoctrinating the gullible masses for generations.

    Did you actually believe that millions of people woke up one morning and all on their own decided they hated the US Constitution, capitalism, and basically everything American?!

    Paleeze!

    People are being fired from their jobs, verbally assaulted and even physically assaulted; simply for supporting Donald Trump.

    So are you laughing at the idea of there being Trump converts or simply that people would do so on the down-low?

    The "two years of lies" your left-wing Fake News Media has been force-feeding to the gullible masses for two years nonstop is so extremely flawed that it's ridiculously obvious.

    Only the simplest of minds can't figure out that the majority of those "lies" are actually the result of Trump being the most accessible President in US history and 80% of everything he says in public is ad-lib and spontaneous.

    Trump is obviously no politician and undoubtedly the least graceful public speaker in the history of politics.

    Even a double-digit IQ could figure out that a mix of spontaneity and ad-lib with a handicap at public speaking opens the door to false accusations of lying, memory issues, stupidity, and ignorance.

    These things make Trump a prime target for political adversaries and dishonest agenda-driven News Media.

    Pro-Trumps know this and ignore the rhetoric while Anti-Trumps believe anything that feeds their hate.
    Are you sure this isn't supposed to be comedy? You are laughably ridiculous.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 5678 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •