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Hundreds of thousands are illegally registered to vote in texas

PTF said:
I've answered your question. You did not like the answer.
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nope you factually have not answered my questions but you are free to make up what ever lie you want LMAO
Let us know when you have answers, thanks
 
There is no way anyone can object to this unless they are committed to the opportunity to commit voter fraud.
 
holbritter said:
I have no idea how she was even allowed to vote. She's always used our address as a 'permanent' address because she's moved 4 times in the last year alone. (I use a pencil for her address..lol)
She was out of school already, when she voted. I kept saying "And they didn't ask you for ID??" until she got mad at me :) All they seemed to be concerned about was that her current address was in their district, not so much on who she actually was.

Who knows if it was the same in other districts/boroughs/counties. I don't think anywhere is very consistent. Some places use the booth with the levers (my last address) and some use a huge ballot that you mark with a pencil and they feed it into a machine to record your vote. You're not allowed to leave until it registers.
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hmmm interesting....
yeah again i got no clue about NYC so i dont know.....
dont get me wrong im for states rights etc but you would think presidential voting would be regulated and have a conformity to it... to much common sense in that i geess
 
What if...? said:
Yet they aren't a democratic state...

How do those two things gibe?
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Funny that the Left always says Texas is turning purple. Only a few more illegal voters.

This isn't just at the state level. There's an Austin "sanctuary" city council member who claims his district is 2/3s illegal. How does that jibe?
 
WCH said:
Funny that the Left always says Texas is turning purple. Only a few more illegal voters.

This isn't just at the state level. There's an Austin "sanctuary" city council member who claims his district is 2/3s illegal. How does that jibe?
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It could just be all those techies coming there to work that is turning Texas purple.

Those number justseem ridiculous.

Like the thousands that would have had to keep quiet all these years to fake the moon landing.

Y'all have cried wold too much on this issue.

Lots of investigations, not much to point at.

And the issue at hand isn't even about voter ID, right?
 
WCH said:
Conservative leaders are calling on the Texas governor to prevent non-citizens and other ineligible persons from voting illegally. According to a statement issued at today’s press conference, more than 280,000 non-citizens in Texas are registered to vote, with another four million registered voters in question.

Direct Action Texas (DAT), a watchdog organization known for exposing mail ballot fraud in numerous counties across Texas, released a statement today regarding its concerns. Aaron Harris, the group’s Executive Director, told Texas Scorecard:

“We are calling on Gov. Abbott to direct the Secretary of State to verify citizenship of all voter registrations. I see no reason for the governor to not implement this practical step to ensure the November election, and all future elections, are held with the integrity Texans demand. The governor could require that these changes be made tomorrow, if he so desired.”

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https://empowertexans.com/under-the...ds-are-illegally-registered-to-vote-in-texas/

Getr done!
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I'm rather curious about the claim that there are 280,000 non-citizens registered to vote in Texas. It seems I recall a similar claim about a year ago, and it turned out that it just meant citizens of the state in question. That is, the political action group tried to represent that it had found hundreds of thousands of non-U.S. citizens registered to vote. What it instead found was a bunch of U.S. citizens still registered to vote in (IIRC) Georgia that had just moved to another state or something, and had registered in the state to which they had moved. Now I suppose there is some concern that perhaps those people might vote twice or something, but then, there is no evidence that they voted twice, and I would expect there are mechanisms in place to catch double voting if it happens.

In this case, the claim that there are 280,000 non-citizens registered to vote is simply mentioned as having been released in a statement at a press conference. A google search on various possible related terms doesn't yield anything about such a conference. Nor anything about such a number of people possibly registered to vote illegally in Texas, nor any reason to believe that such a number is illegally registered. The article, written by Ross Kecseg according to the various fringe-right websites on which it appears, gives two documented instances of people having actually been caught (one of whom voted for Republican candidates...but the article doesn't mention that). That leaves 279,998 to be substantiated.

So far, this seems to be the same story we've seen several times now: conservative groups make an extravagant claim, they cite one or two cases (usually the same ones), someone gets curious enough to check out the more extravagant claim, and finds no reason to believe it.

Perhaps that won't be the case here, but I have no reason to think so.
 
Does anyone have any proof of this 280,000 number? This seems incredibly large and would be very troublesome if true. But I can't seem to find any links to anything on how they arrived at such a number.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Does anyone have any proof of this 280,000 number? This seems incredibly large and would be very troublesome if true. But I can't seem to find any links to anything on how they arrived at such a number.
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It would be difficult to prove such a number. However, statistically, there is generally 1,000 or so for every one case found.
 
Lord of Planar said:
It would be difficult to prove such a number. However, statistically, there is generally 1,000 or so for every one case found.
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Thats not really a statistic. That is entirely made up.

I dont need definative proof, but some type of evidence would be nice.

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Lord of Planar said:
It would be difficult to prove such a number. However, statistically, there is generally 1,000 or so for every one case found.
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Which statistics are these? To know this, we'd have to have caught the thousand or observed them somehow.

In any event, the OP cites exactly two cases that have been caught. So even granting that you're right about this "statistic," (and I do not grant that you are) that means there are 2,002 illegal voters in Texas. Well shy of the 280,000 the article claims.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Its not 280, its 280,000, which is hundreds of thousands.

I don't know how they got registered. But once they are registered they can vote, and there's no reason not to if the chance of getting caught is almost nil because no one is looking all that hard.
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Don't they have "motor voter"... DMV defaults you in as voter, and it is up to you to opt out if you don't qualify. So I guess you leave your "unqualified" absentee ballot on the front seat of your car where it magically changes into a 12 pack when the precinct worker picks it up?

After all, who's looking?
 
chuckiechan said:
Don't they have "motor voter"... DMV defaults you in as voter, and it is up to you to opt out if you don't qualify. So I guess you leave your "unqualified" absentee ballot on the front seat of your car where it magically changes into a 12 pack when the precinct worker picks it up?

After all, who's looking?
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WOW!! I never would have thought of that. Thanks for telling us about the conspiracy theories you have running in your head.

Myth of Voter Fraud


Resources on Voter Fraud Claims
Credible research and investigation demonstrates fraud by voters at the polls is exceedingly rare.


Analysis: Noncitizen Voting is Vanishingly Rare
For years, the Brennan Center has collected research showing that voter fraud is extraordinarily rare. We've reviewed the literature on one subset of voter fraud claims — the allegation that ineligible noncitizens are voting in large numbers.


In Their Own Words: Officials Refuting Trump's Voter Fraud Allegations
Donald Trump has made repeated claims that millions voted illegally in 2016. This rhetoric around voter fraud has been debunked in study after study. Election officials and leaders of the president’s own party have spoken out against these false claims.


The Justice Department’s Voter Fraud Scandal: Lessons
A decade ago, the Justice Department was upended by scandal after investigations revealed it wielded its power to disenfranchise voters. As the new president threatens investigations into voter fraud, mistakes of the past give concern for the future.

The Truth About Voter Fraud
In 2007, the Brennan Center for Justice carefully examined allegations of fraud to get at the truth behind the claims. The conclusion was clear — most allegations are baseless.
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Somerville said:
WOW!! I never would have thought of that. Thanks for telling us about the conspiracy theories you have running in your head.
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Based on this liberal website, if you are so sure it is not a problem, why are you afraid of an investigation to see if it is really true? Why are you afraid of being proven right?

That is the argument, not dueling political parties. If the conservatives were benefiting from illegal votes, you guys would be all over this like white on rice.
 
WCH said:
Conservative leaders are calling on the Texas governor to prevent non-citizens and other ineligible persons from voting illegally. According to a statement issued at today’s press conference, more than 280,000 non-citizens in Texas are registered to vote, with another four million registered voters in question.

Direct Action Texas (DAT), a watchdog organization known for exposing mail ballot fraud in numerous counties across Texas, released a statement today regarding its concerns. Aaron Harris, the group’s Executive Director, told Texas Scorecard:

“We are calling on Gov. Abbott to direct the Secretary of State to verify citizenship of all voter registrations. I see no reason for the governor to not implement this practical step to ensure the November election, and all future elections, are held with the integrity Texans demand. The governor could require that these changes be made tomorrow, if he so desired.”

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https://empowertexans.com/under-the...ds-are-illegally-registered-to-vote-in-texas/

Getr done!
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free id to vote!
 
roughdraft274 said:
Does anyone have any proof of this 280,000 number? This seems incredibly large and would be very troublesome if true. But I can't seem to find any links to anything on how they arrived at such a number.
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I agree it would, this is why i wanted to know HOW that happened and how texas works because that seems impossible in my state... i haven't been able to find anything reliable or solid that confirms this at all. Heck i dont even need factual proof to the exact number but somethign solid for a round about number would be nice

and again i would guess if true this has somethign to do with the process in texas...
 
chuckiechan said:
Based on this liberal website, if you are so sure it is not a problem, why are you afraid of an investigation to see if it is really true? Why are you afraid of being proven right?

That is the argument, not dueling political parties. If the conservatives were benefiting from illegal votes, you guys would be all over this like white on rice.
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Who's afraid of an investigation - just as long as there's something more than assertions by one group on which to base an investigation.
 
chuckiechan said:
Don't they have "motor voter"... DMV defaults you in as voter, and it is up to you to opt out if you don't qualify. So I guess you leave your "unqualified" absentee ballot on the front seat of your car where it magically changes into a 12 pack when the precinct worker picks it up?

After all, who's looking?
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In some states yes. Don't know about Texas but California is like that. Though supposedly the DMV is supposed to make a note on the license if the person is an illegal alien...whether that's done or not I don't know.
 
Somerville said:
Who's afraid of an investigation - just as long as there's something more than assertions by one group on which to base an investigation.
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Yep. This administration's commission on voter fraud was supposed to expose all of this but didn't manage to do so. If there is large scale fraud then it should be addressed, the problem is all we have are assumptions and no evidence.
 
roughdraft274 said:
Can you point to the part that has evidence for the 280k number?

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I couldn't find evidence of that number but, you really don't expect that to be published in the Mainstream? Even some on the left would be disgusted.
 
Kal'Stang said:
In some states yes. Don't know about Texas but California is like that. Though supposedly the DMV is supposed to make a note on the license if the person is an illegal alien...whether that's done or not I don't know.
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Wouldn't giving an ID of any sort to a known illegal alien be some sort of fraud [in the real world]?
 
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