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    What does "influencing" an election look like?

    In particular, what actions would constitute illegally influencing an election?

    For example:
    - Russian individual "A" creates a Twitter account and expresses negative opinions about US candidate "B". "A" ends up with 350,000 followers, many of whom are Americans.

    - Russian individual "A", a known operative of the FSB, creates a Twitter account and expresses negative opinions about US candidate "B". "A" ends up with 350,000 followers, many of whom are Americans. "A" never discloses his/her association with the FSB

    - Russian individual "A" is involved in the international Widget industry. As an expert in that field they are associated with members of the Russian government. "A" meets with US counterparts in the Widget industry during a trade summit. Some of the US counterparts are affiliated, as advisors, with candidates for elected office that are currently campaigning. "A" has expressed a preference for a given candidate for elected office.

    - Russian individual "A", with investment interests in the US, engages with elected US parties for the purpose of conferring with regard to permits, legal assistance, etc. in a US based project. "A" has expressed a preference for a given candidate for elected office.

    - Russian individual "A" has a common trade or academic interest with a certain US based trade or academic foundation. "A" receives information from the FSB which reflects negatively on a US candidate for elected office. "A" passes that information to individual "B" who is engaged in the business of political opposition research. "B" provides that information to his client campaign and/or interested parties in the media.

    - Russian individual "A" obtains private email communications between a US candidate for elected office and/or their advisors. "A" then makes those communications public through a third party.

    - Russian individual "A" obtains private email communications between a US candidate for elected office and/or their advisors. "A", having a preference for the affected candidate, destroys the communications so that they will never see the light of day.

    - Russian individual "A", working with the Bilderbergs, the Illuninati and other One World organizations seeks to destabilize the United States in the furtherance of achieving full blown Globalism. "A" engages in a complex scheme of propaganda, political influence peddling, cyber espionage, and a major media campaign to sow discord and doubt even at the local levels of American society. "A" doesn't really care what direction US elections go as long the results promote the cause of Globalism.

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    Re: What does "influencing" an election look like?

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    Re: What does "influencing" an election look like?

    Good God...the Russia apologist are out in full force today.
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    Re: What does "influencing" an election look like?

    You're struggling to understand how marketing, propaganda, ads, the stolen DNC analytics, the stolen DNC strategies, the stolen DNC voter list, the stolen DNC emails that severely damaged the Hillary campaign, the Russian influence that we know already changed Republican platform issues, the choosing of Manafort out of the blue, etc.....

    You believe these had no effect.

    Tell me are not serious.

    Of course they had an impact. And given how big *just what we know* was, and how close the election was, and how bizarre of a surprise win it was and the DNC's family jewels stolen, and leaked to Republicans...someone would have to be nuts to claim it had no effect...

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    Re: What does "influencing" an election look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Good God...the Russia apologist are out in full force today.
    you do understand OUR government has messed with elections ALL over the planet for decades...right?

    did you honestly believe it would never come back on us?
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    Re: What does "influencing" an election look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    you do understand OUR government has messed with elections ALL over the planet for decades...right?

    did you honestly believe it would never come back on us?
    so, that's an excuse; right?

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    Re: What does "influencing" an election look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    You're struggling to understand how marketing, propaganda, ads, the stolen DNC analytics, the stolen DNC strategies, the stolen DNC voter list, the stolen DNC emails that severely damaged the Hillary campaign, the Russian influence that we know already changed Republican platform issues, the choosing of Manafort out of the blue, etc.....

    You believe these had no effect.

    Tell me are not serious.

    Of course they had an impact. And given how big *just what we know* was, and how close the election was, and how bizarre of a surprise win it was and the DNC's family jewels stolen, and leaked to Republicans...someone would have to be nuts to claim it had no effect...
    *the stolen DNC emails that severely damaged the Hillary campaign*

    What was in the DNC emails that damaged the Clinton Campaign ??

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    Re: What does "influencing" an election look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by hanger4 View Post
    *the stolen DNC emails that severely damaged the Hillary campaign*
    What was in the DNC emails that damaged the Clinton Campaign ??
    Try to stay on topic. Did it affect the election? Obviously.
    What it was, was, private, and illegal to take, and extremely damaging to the Hillary campaign.

    So you couldn't even admit it affected the election AND you had to cherry pick one of the many things I listed (and there are even more that we don't know..money, influence, etc.)

    AND you had to reply with something irrelevant.

    Your performance was weaker than Trump's Helsinki porn show performance with Putin. Although Trump has the audacity to walk it back, then walk it forward, then unwalk it, then unwalk the unwalk. Can you do that? That would be fun to watch.

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    Re: What does "influencing" an election look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    You're struggling to understand how marketing, propaganda, ads, the stolen DNC analytics, the stolen DNC strategies, the stolen DNC voter list, the stolen DNC emails that severely damaged the Hillary campaign, the Russian influence that we know already changed Republican platform issues, the choosing of Manafort out of the blue, etc.....

    You believe these had no effect.

    Tell me are not serious.

    Of course they had an impact. And given how big *just what we know* was, and how close the election was, and how bizarre of a surprise win it was and the DNC's family jewels stolen, and leaked to Republicans...someone would have to be nuts to claim it had no effect...
    OK, I’ll bite. Why is your party now deciding to run “Fresh faces” in 2024 since their establishment candidates are way past their pull date? After all, re running Hillary promises a return to Obamanomics, legal tiptoeing that wafts around Clinton, Inc.

    She was a ****ty candidate with too much baggage.

    All the dems are hoping for is to give high visibility experience for a candidate in 2024 that could possibly win.
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    Re: What does "influencing" an election look like?

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    you do understand OUR government has messed with elections ALL over the planet for decades...right?

    did you honestly believe it would never come back on us?
    And if the same tactic benefit a Democrat you'd have the same opinion?

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