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2020 Dem Female Ticket

yankintx said:
In the current culture, I thought it may be interesting to see what folks would think of an all female Dem ticket in 2020. I have my own ideas, save for later. Obviously you know who is not an option. This could be a winner for the Dems in 2020 provided the top of the ticket was a centrist and does not come with the name Clinton.
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Voting for anyone based on gender or skin color is about as smart an idea as dancing with the devil on a pale moon night. How about in 2020 we actually get someone in charge based on actual character, intelligence, and a willingness to do what is right for the Country instead of what is "right" for themselves?
 
NIMBY said:
I don't believe I've ever conversed with you. Where on 'Earth' are you from? :mrgreen: Condolences for being here before the 2012 elections. I came on after Sandy Hook, 5 years ago today, and now my 64th B'day. How does a guy sing to his wife, 'will you still need me, will you still feed me', with that memory?

My IL-16 CD has a Bannon/Ryan proxy primary, as I live in deep Reagan DEM country. GOP Rep. Kinzinger, for whom I'll cross over to vote. IL--17, also won by trump, has a very strong DEM Congresswoman in Cheri Bustos, my kind of Blue Dog, rising star.

And now I believe we're seeing the Yellow Dogs rise from the ashes. Sen. Jones won't be the last. Yet GOPs are clearly on the rise in the Northeast, especially with governors ...
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Dont tell anyone but I'm not actually from Earth. Sex, skin color, hair style, music preference, over/under for TP are all irrelevant to me when voting for someone. What counts is what they stand for and if they can be believed (unfortunately for the 2nd part we are dealing with politicians so its on a scale)
 
Quag said:
Dont tell anyone but I'm not actually from Earth. Sex, skin color, hair style, music preference, over/under for TP are all irrelevant to me when voting for someone. What counts is what they stand for and if they can be believed (unfortunately for the 2nd part we are dealing with politicians so its on a scale)
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So far, the election of Sen. Jones has signaled a slight return to issues and civility in the long run, at odds certainly with McConnell's 'long game' of hypocricy at every turn ...
 
yankintx said:
In the current culture, I thought it may be interesting to see what folks would think of an all female Dem ticket in 2020. I have my own ideas, save for later. Obviously you know who is not an option. This could be a winner for the Dems in 2020 provided the top of the ticket was a centrist and does not come with the name Clinton.
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The only two names that might get the official DNC stamp of approval are Clinton and Warren and both of them are political liabilities. I doubt that you'll see a female DNC candidate for a couple of election cycles. There may some "pretty young thing" that the DNC will get politically hot and bothered over, but unless a female version of Obama (unknown, but puts on the right front and does exactly what the DNC wants) shows up, I doubt that we'll see a female Dem. candidate for while.
 
NIMBY said:
TG would be a good VP pick for Condi Rice; two women ...
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I'd love to Condi run for POTUS, but she's seems very happy at her current position and has stated that she isn't interested in running. I'd love it if she changed her mind, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.
 
Quag said:
Dont tell anyone but I'm not actually from Earth. Sex, skin color, hair style, music preference, over/under for TP are all irrelevant to me when voting for someone. What counts is what they stand for and if they can be believed (unfortunately for the 2nd part we are dealing with politicians so its on a scale)
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There is no issue more relevant to modern politics than "over/under". Anyone who would run their TP under should be banned from politics, banned from voting, charged a tax surcharge of 19% and forced to wear a white square on their arm.

:mrgreen:
 
faithful_servant said:
I'd love to Condi run for POTUS, but she's seems very happy at her current position and has stated that she isn't interested in running. I'd love it if she changed her mind, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.
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If trump does exit early, I expect considerable pressure on Condi from the likes of GWB to take the VP ahead of 2020 and a Pence/Rice ticket, though Baker/Sandoval still looks to be the Dream GOP ticket for me, jmo.

This of course ignores Ryan being elevated to VP from Speaker and running a 2nd time for VP, this time with Pence. Romney blew it by not taking Sen. Portman of OH ...
 
JMR said:
I think our next Democratic ticket should have a male VP to balance it.
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That would be Sen. Brown IMO, of the all-important Ohio, IF Brown is reelected to his Senate seat next year ...
 
NIMBY said:
So far, the election of Sen. Jones has signaled a slight return to issues and civility in the long run, at odds certainly with McConnell's 'long game' of hypocricy at every turn ...
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I wouldn't read too much into it. Despite the national coverage it is still just an election outside the normal electoral timing. Voter turnout was low and the republican candidate in a republican stronghold had lots of issues and lost. I cant even say I know much about the dude who won, I bet there were many who actually can and did vote who could say the same thing (sadly that is true in all elections)
 
Quag said:
I wouldn't read too much into it. Despite the national coverage it is still just an election outside the normal electoral timing. Voter turnout was low and the republican candidate in a republican stronghold had lots of issues and lost. I cant even say I know much about the dude who won, I bet there were many who actually can and did vote who could say the same thing (sadly that is true in all elections)
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I see Sen. Jones as the rise of the new Yellow Dogs, while also seeing the continued rise of moderate GOPs in the northeast. These and other trends are signaling a move to a new age of normalcy post trump; jmo. Pragmatic Populist Progress--ives.

Here in IL, blue dogs have been voting GOP at the state and federal level since 1976. They're still looking for a political home.

I believe we flyover Illinoisans do try to choose the better candidate, which is why I'll cross over again next year and vote for the better GOP, since I live in GOP districts ...
 
faithful_servant said:
The only two names that might get the official DNC stamp of approval are Clinton and Warren and both of them are political liabilities. I doubt that you'll see a female DNC candidate for a couple of election cycles. There may some "pretty young thing" that the DNC will get politically hot and bothered over, but unless a female version of Obama (unknown, but puts on the right front and does exactly what the DNC wants) shows up, I doubt that we'll see a female Dem. candidate for while.
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Pretty young thing ? Prefer some hot young stud myself.
 
Don't care what gender they are, it's their policy I'm interested in.
 
yankintx said:
In the current culture, I thought it may be interesting to see what folks would think of an all female Dem ticket in 2020. I have my own ideas, save for later. Obviously you know who is not an option. This could be a winner for the Dems in 2020 provided the top of the ticket was a centrist and does not come with the name Clinton.
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It would depend on whom the candidates are whether I would like it or not. There are some Democrats, both women and men I could never vote for. Same for the GOP. Clinton and Trump are two prime examples of two candidates that would never get my vote.
 
JMR said:
I think our next Democratic ticket should have a male VP to balance it.
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Why? We have only had 2 major party presidential tickets in our history that had a woman on them. We don't typically think an all male ticket should have a woman to balance it, so why would a female ticket need a man?
 
NIMBY said:
If trump does exit early, I expect considerable pressure on Condi from the likes of GWB to take the VP ahead of 2020 and a Pence/Rice ticket, though Baker/Sandoval still looks to be the Dream GOP ticket for me, jmo.

This of course ignores Ryan being elevated to VP from Speaker and running a 2nd time for VP, this time with Pence. Romney blew it by not taking Sen. Portman of OH ...
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I can't imagine Rice ever getting on the ticket with a nutjob like Pence (I know it was reported that they were considering it, but I don't buy it). Ideologically he is a mile to the right of her. Moreover, how can you have a working relationship with Pence when you can't even have a private conversation with him? What is he going to do, have his wife come in the Oval Office every time he would need to talk to Rice?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Why? We have only had 2 major party presidential tickets in our history that had a woman on them. We don't typically think an all male ticket should have a woman to balance it, so why would a female ticket need a man?
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I meant that as ironic. Sorry I was not clear.
 
Its problematic. Gillibrand just sunk herself with the Franken deal, people in MN arent too happy with her. Gabbard might do well as she is a veteran as well. I think anyone from CA, male or female, is going to turn off a lot of people in much needed electoral states. They are just seen as too over the top liberal. Klobuchar might be good and possibly Patty Murray. Winning electorally is now the big thing so it might end up being a Tim Ryan from Ohio or Sherrod Brown needed to top the ticket. I still have visions of those UAW workers in MI saying they would never vote for a woman for president. There is still a lot like that.
 
yankintx said:
In the current culture, I thought it may be interesting to see what folks would think of an all female Dem ticket in 2020. I have my own ideas, save for later. Obviously you know who is not an option. This could be a winner for the Dems in 2020 provided the top of the ticket was a centrist and does not come with the name Clinton.
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A ticket based on gender. Sounds like a losing proposition.
 
NonoBadDog said:
A ticket based on gender. Sounds like a losing proposition.
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And that went so far in adding to the thread. Who pissed in your Cornflakes this morning?
 
I think Amy Klobuchar is the only Dem with a chance of getting the Dem nod, although Warren could cause a lot of damage to the party if she ran.

My prediction at this time is Biden/Klobuchar or Biden/Booker but we’ll see.
 
yankintx said:
And that went so far in adding to the thread. Who pissed in your Cornflakes this morning?
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It was at night and nobody pissed in my Cornflakes. I would imagine that people would choose based on more than gender.

I can't imagine a female ticket that would win. Rice has already said she doesn't want to be president. Warren, (Fauxahontas) in any ticket, is a losing proposition. Clinton has had her shot but got caught with her hand in several cookie jars. Of course there is always Stein, another losing proposition. Kamala Harris is too much of a drama queen basket case. The best chance I can see for a woman on a ticket is Tusi Gabbard. She has some enemies in her party. Her candor isn't always appreciated. One woman does not make a ticket.

You could always run Pelosi and Waters, Kamala Harris and Wasserman-Schultzor maybe even Frederica Wilson with another person just as loony.
 
Superfly said:
I like her too, but she is black, and is a woman. People lost their minds when a black man won president. I think they might spontaneously combust if a black woman wins.



Yes, and who knows what they are doing. I think we have taken this "everybody can be president" experiment a little too far. Shouldn't be too hard to find someone who knows what they are doing, and also has scruples.
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Agreed. If the Trump social experiment has proven anything, is that everybody CANNOT be president. Just because the Republicans decided to put a Reality T.V Star with ZERO political experience as their president, doesn't mean the Democrats should be looking for just anyone to be their next president.

IMO, what the Democrats need is a candidate that can drive the Democrat's base to the polls. Obama was able to do it in 2008 and 2012, and Clinton couldn't do it in 2016. Also, someone younger, IMO (sorry Biden, Sanders, and Warren).
 
Hi yankintx, if you mean a centrist within the context of the current Dem party, I disagree with the premise. For example, Kamala Harris or Amy Klobuchar could be considered centrists, but I don't think they are right for these desperate times. The only woman I would support in the primary would be Tulsi Gabbard. But if Bernie runs, I will support him in the primary. My rationale regarding not wanting a centrist at the top of the ticket is based on my belief that the general public is to the left of both parties. But I will concede that a centrist ticket might be able to beat Trump in 2020. But for me it is much more important that we elect a president who will finally do something serious about the climate crisis. Also someone who will roll back the disturbing militarism in the US.
 
Barnacle said:
Go for it. :lol:

Nothing worse than bitching women ... especially when they're past their "prime" and think they have "experience and knowledge".

Think ... Nasty Women
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They might just put the fear of God into lil Kim, Vlad and a few others. Don't mess with da girls.
 
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