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    Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    From the Guardian here: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

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    Buoyed by the British Labour Party election gains this week, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Saturday urged a summit of progressive activists who propelled his presidential candidacy to ramp up efforts to win elections and help remake a Democratic Party he deemed a failure.

    "They won those seats by standing up to the ruling class," he said, referring to the British elections and citing wins by progressive U.S. candidates in several state and local races while writing off losses as evidence liberal progressives could still be competitive even in conservative states.

    Many activists said they hoped to transform the momentum from recent protests such as January's Women's March in Washington into concrete plans to support a growing wave of grassroots candidates to secure electoral power.

    "We could have 10,000 people marching, but if we don't have some means of translating that into winning political office and enacting a legislative progressive agenda, at the end of the day, what does it amount to?"

    Sanders credited progressives with increasing public acceptance of proposals such as a $15 minimum wage, renegotiating trade policies and offering free college tuition. He got a standing ovation when he said the California Senate recently passed a single-payer health care plan.
    It's time to prepare for the mid-terms, where the Dems take back the HofR ...
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    Re: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    From the Guardian here: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

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    It's time to prepare for the mid-terms, where the Dems take back the HofR ...
    Don't forget this very important part of the same speech:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...artys-strategy

    That aspect of it cannot be overstated enough; the Dem party needs to undergo some serious reinvention and introspection.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    You know what is so sad is by the time America got to 2017 it is Crazy Bernie of all people who is found yelling "HEY MORONS; IN POLITICS THE ONLY WAY TO MATTER IS TO WIN!'.
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    Re: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    Sanders is politically ridiculous.

    He wants a GINORMOUS sized government...yet he freely admits that government is incredibly corrupt.

    So his solution to the world's problems is to take money from taxpayers and feed it into incredibly corrupt governments.

    Friggin brilliant...

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    Re: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    From the Guardian here: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

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    Buoyed by the British Labour Party election gains this week, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on Saturday urged a summit of progressive activists who propelled his presidential candidacy to ramp up efforts to win elections and help remake a Democratic Party he deemed a failure.

    "They won those seats by standing up to the ruling class," he said, referring to the British elections and citing wins by progressive U.S. candidates in several state and local races while writing off losses as evidence liberal progressives could still be competitive even in conservative states.

    Many activists said they hoped to transform the momentum from recent protests such as January's Women's March in Washington into concrete plans to support a growing wave of grassroots candidates to secure electoral power.

    "We could have 10,000 people marching, but if we don't have some means of translating that into winning political office and enacting a legislative progressive agenda, at the end of the day, what does it amount to?"

    Sanders credited progressives with increasing public acceptance of proposals such as a $15 minimum wage, renegotiating trade policies and offering free college tuition. He got a standing ovation when he said the California Senate recently passed a single-payer health care plan.
    It's time to prepare for the mid-terms, where the Dems take back the HofR ...
    Bernie Sanders; Independent (Socialist actually) from 1979 - 2015. Democrat for purposes of running for President 2016 - Present.

    Sanders, 73, has been preaching socialism for nearly half a century...“I myself don’t use the word socialism,” he said in 1976 in the Vermont Cynic, a student publication at the University of Vermont, “because people have been brainwashed into thinking socialism automatically means slave-labor camps, dictatorship and lack of freedom of speech.”
    14 things Bernie Sanders has said about socialism - POLITICO

    He really wants to build the Democratic Party? Does this mean he, and therefore we all, should view Democrats rightly as actually Socialists? Calling a spade a spade...
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    Re: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Lafayette View Post
    From the Guardian here: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

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    It's time to prepare for the mid-terms, where the Dems take back the HofR ...
    And you are certainly right that the inexperienced young and profiteers of the promised largesse that "progressves'" BS feeds them in populist storylines of the type you so love to tell.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Bernie Sanders; Independent (Socialist actually) from 1979 - 2015. Democrat for purposes of running for President 2016 - Present.

    14 things Bernie Sanders has said about socialism - POLITICO

    He really wants to build the Democratic Party? Does this mean he, and therefore we all, should view Democrats rightly as actually Socialists? Calling a spade a spade...
    Do not forget that he is an accomplished populist and the MSM are hysterical enough right now to do anything including willful harm to the country to get rid of their object of ire.

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    Re: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Sanders is politically ridiculous.

    He wants a GINORMOUS sized government...yet he freely admits that government is incredibly corrupt.

    So his solution to the world's problems is to take money from taxpayers and feed it into incredibly corrupt governments.

    Friggin brilliant...
    Don't forget that Trump and Corbyn were also considered politically ridiculous, while Obama or Macron had the sole sales pitch of "Change!" and "Yes we can!".

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    Re: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    And you are certainly right that the inexperienced young and profiteers of the promised largesse that "progressves'" BS feeds them in populist storylines of the type you so love to tell.
    Thank you, thank you, thank you - for our daily-dose of blah, blah, blah ...
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    Re: Bernie Sanders urges progressives to seek more electoral wins

    Quote Originally Posted by Surrealistik View Post
    Don't forget this very important part of the same speech:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...artys-strategy

    That aspect of it cannot be overstated enough; the Dem party needs to undergo some serious reinvention and introspection.
    Agreed, but the Dem-party is simply the "other party" in a decrepit democracy. What can progressives do if the odds have been stacked against them as in the Electoral College (national) and with gerrymandering (state).

    We need to get rid of both, along with unlimited campaign funding that sells candidates like "soap-powder"in a uniquely two-party system*.

    They all wash whiter-than-white ...

    *Were Bernie to live as a politician in the UK, he'd have run on middle-road-but-slightly-left program on a Liberal Party label. Which is what he should do in the US. Make the electoral system three- and not two-dimensional - and that cannot happen until Americans smarten-up politically ...
    Last edited by Lafayette; 06-11-17 at 07:30 AM.
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