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Why Do Uneducated Poor White Americans Consistently Vote Republican?

Depends upon who you wish to take the money from, "the people" are always fair game, the substantial people are off limits.

I read his statement as "dependent" implying that the problem with the poor (which is defined by a lack of money) is that they have too much money, a statement which completely inverts reality.
 
I read his statement as "dependent" implying that the problem with the poor (which is defined by a lack of money) is that they have too much money, a statement which completely inverts reality.

The reality is that society has undergone a wealth redistribution scam over the past half century that has concentrated soceital wealth into the hands of fewer and fewer. Intentionally.
 
The reality is that society has undergone a wealth redistribution scam over the past half century that has concentrated soceital wealth into the hands of fewer and fewer. Intentionally.

I agree. Republicans have been much more successful at concentrating wealth than democrats have been at distributing it.
 
Please explain to me how an issue which is definitively described as a lack of money can be solved by taking away even more money.

same reason why park rangers tell people not to feed the animals. they become dependent on the handouts and forget how to find food on their own

the problem is often a lack of effort in engaging in activity that brings in money
 
The reality is that society has undergone a wealth redistribution scam over the past half century that has concentrated soceital wealth into the hands of fewer and fewer. Intentionally.

so your solution to undo so much wealth being concentrated in the hands of several million people-most of whom actually earned the wealth is taking it away and concentrating it the hands of a few thousand pimps in office and their bureaucratic minions?
 
Because Democrats actively support policies that lead to their dispossession. Mass immigration and section 8 aren't exactly policies that help whites.

But they don't hurt whites either.

Furthermore there are more poor white people on welfare and food stamps then their are African Americans.

Support for Unions, better trade policy, minimum wage laws, and countless other regulations do in fact help poor white people, along with subsidized health insurance. Social Security, medicare, investments in education, infrastructure, renewable resources..... all of these things are far more beneficial to poor white people than anything the Republican party is offering which is nothing.
 
same reason why park rangers tell people not to feed the animals. they become dependent on the handouts and forget how to find food on their own

the problem is often a lack of effort in engaging in activity that brings in money

You think the reason poor people are poor is that they're as stupid as pigeons and bears who "forget" how to take care of themselves?

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Wow.

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You think the reason poor people are poor is that they're as stupid as pigeons and bears who "forget" how to take care of themselves?

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Wow.

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many have made bad choices that cause their poverty and we enable people to continue to make bad choices.
 
same reason why park rangers tell people not to feed the animals. they become dependent on the handouts and forget how to find food on their own

the problem is often a lack of effort in engaging in activity that brings in money
I expect a response like that from someone who won the sperm lottery and inherited most of his money.


I've posted this elsewhere and it still fits:

The whole idea of government dependence is a made-up fallacy.

Social Security has no link at all to this "government dependency," since one has to have had to work in order to be eligible. Moreover, the best available research done by ( An Assessment of the Effectiveness of Anti-Poverty Programs in the United States ) show that the programs conservatives most wants to slash, Medicaid and food stamps, don’t even have large negative effects on work effort.

But the whole idea that subjecting people to starvation and homelessness creates an incentive to work is just an excuse for selfishness. Throughout most of human history the poor were left to starve and die in the streets and it didn't provide them the incentive to lift themselves out of poverty. Yet, conservatives contend the poor are worse off with government help.

This meme is thrust upon Americans to swallow which happens to serve the interests of the wealthy conservatives that benefit from those policies. Modern conservatism uses the smoke-screen of self-reliance, individualism and character to mask policies which are self-serving, bigoted and cruel. The cadre of conservative billionaires don't want to pay higher taxes that will be used to help "those people." Thus, they invent a myth that the best way to help the poor is to NOT provide them any help at all. This way, according to them, their misery will give the poor the incentive to become educated and industrious. As I said earlier, this has never worked in all of human history.

Their objective is to keep taxes on the rich low and keep government out of their hair. But these people's numbers are small, so they need to fund propaganda groups like the Heritage Foundation to create false data and spread the message to middle-class conservatives, who are generally stupid enough to swallow their lies. Thus the pro-life conservative-leaning worker who listens to Rush Limbaugh will repeatedly vote for the party that is less likely to protect his safety, less likely to protect his job, and less likely to benefit him economically.
 
I expect a response like that from someone who won the sperm lottery and inherit most of his money.


I've posted this elsewhere and it still fits:

The whole idea of government dependence is a made-up fallacy.

Social Security has no link at all to this "government dependency," since one has to have had to work in order to be eligible. Moreover, the best available research done by ( An Assessment of the Effectiveness of Anti-Poverty Programs in the United States ) show that the programs conservatives most wants to slash, Medicaid and food stamps, don’t even have large negative effects on work effort.

But the whole idea that subjecting people to starvation and homelessness creates an incentive to work is just an excuse for selfishness. Throughout most of human history the poor were left to starve and die in the streets and it didn't provide them the incentive to lift themselves out of poverty. Yet, conservatives contend the poor are worse off with government help.

This meme is thrust upon Americans to swallow which happens to serve the interests of the wealthy conservatives that benefit from those policies. Modern conservatism uses the smoke-screen of self-reliance, individualism and character to mask policies which are self-serving, bigoted and cruel. The cadre of conservative billionaires don't want to pay higher taxes that will be used to help "those people." Thus, they invent a myth that the best way to help the poor is to NOT provide them any help at all. This way, according to them, their misery will give the poor the incentive to become educated and industrious. As I said earlier, this has never worked in all of human history.

Their objective is to keep taxes on the rich low and keep government out of their hair. But these people's numbers are small, so they need to fund propaganda groups like the Heritage Foundation to create false data and spread the message to middle-class conservatives, who are generally stupid enough to swallow their lies. Thus the pro-life conservative-leaning worker who listens to Rush Limbaugh will repeatedly vote for the party that is less likely to protect his safety, less likely to protect his job, and less likely to benefit him economically.

I'd expect no less from someone who thinks others owe him something because he merely exists.
 
Its pretty simple. because the republican party is more in line with their beliefs than the democratic party is.

LOL You mean if all they care about is abortion and gay marriage. The GOP has made a killing with single issue voters.
 
I'd expect no less from someone who thinks others owe him something because he merely exists.
That's where we disagree.

I live on one side of the divide, the side that considers the modern welfare state — a private-enterprise economy, but one in which society’s winners are taxed to pay for a social safety net — morally superior to the capitalism red in tooth and claw we had before the New Deal. It’s only right, this side believes, for the affluent to help the less fortunate.

You live on the other side, the side that believes that people have a right to keep what they earn, and that taxing them to support others, no matter how needy, amounts to theft. That’s what lies behind the modern right’s fondness for violent rhetoric: many activists on the right really do see taxes and regulation as tyrannical impositions on their liberty.
 
I'd expect no less from someone who thinks others owe him something because he merely exists.

As MTA pointed out... your attitudes are hypocritical, given your wealth was inherited... and supplemented by a career in the public sector financed by tax dollars.
 
But they don't hurt whites either.

Explain to me how 3rd world immigration and section 8 don't hurt whites. I'm fascinated to hear this.

Furthermore there are more poor white people on welfare and food stamps then their are African Americans.

There are also far more whites in this country than there are blacks. Blacks, per capita, are the most likely to use welfare. It's not even close.
 
As MTA pointed out... your attitudes are hypocritical, given your wealth was inherited... and supplemented by a career in the public sector financed by tax dollars.

You have no clue about me. you have no idea where my wealth comes from. You have no idea how much I made before I joined the government-a job I could do because I could afford to

but I do know that envy is what motivates most of the crap I see coming from you in your posts
 
Explain to me how 3rd world immigration and section 8 don't hurt whites. I'm fascinated to hear this.



There are also far more whites in this country than there are blacks. Blacks, per capita, are the most likely to use welfare. It's not even close.

well the liberals are in a tough position. when people note the high rates of black violent crime-its always explained as poverty driven. which is often true but it ignores the fact that there are more poor whites than there are blacks in the USA and yet black males commit more murders than all the whites combined
 
You have no clue about me. you have no idea where my wealth comes from. You have no idea how much I made before I joined the government-a job I could do because I could afford to

but I do know that envy is what motivates most of the crap I see coming from you in your posts

I actually do have a "clue" about you, since you were bragging about coming from great wealth on this board previously... and you've spoken about having a career as a prosecutor.
What have I said that is inaccurate?

Why would I envy someone on the downhill slide of life, who can't seem to inform himself about the issues he posts about, and displays consistent hypocrisy and bitterness in his political views?
As far as health and my material needs, I'm all set.. and you certainly don't display any of the intangibles that I would be interested in embodying. You seem decidedly unhappy.

What is there to envy about you? I'm genuinely curious...
 
Explain to me how 3rd world immigration and section 8 don't hurt whites. I'm fascinated to hear this.



There are also far more whites in this country than there are blacks. Blacks, per capita, are the most likely to use welfare. It's not even close.
That's the genius of Republicans. They're not good at governing but they are great forming a narrative that wins by dividing the working class and by convincing whites that they’re not getting the "good welfare," which only goes to Those People.

Contrarily, working-class Trump voters do, in fact, receive a lot of government handouts -- they’re almost totally dependent on Social Security for retirement, Medicare for health care when old, are quite dependent on food stamps, and many have in the last few years received coverage from Obamacare. Quite a few receive disability payments too. They don’t want those benefits to go away. But they managed to convince themselves (with a lot of help from Fox News, et al.) that they aren’t really beneficiaries of government programs.

And you can really see this in the regional patterns. California is an affluent state, a heavy net contributor to the federal budget; it went 2-1 Clinton. West Virginia is poor and a huge net recipient of federal aid; it went 2 1/2-1 Trump. These voters essentially voted in the GOP, and enabled them to slash their health insurance; cut Medicaid; raise the Social Security retirement age, etc. -- all so they can cut taxes on rich people. The Republicans are real genius -- able to get working class people to vote completely against their own financial interest.

I don’t think any kind of economic analysis can explain this. It has to be about culture and, as always, race.

Your answers to your section 8 questions can be answered here: http://nlihc.org/sites/default/files/HousingSpotlight2-2.pdf
Lots of white people benefit from section 8 housing.
 
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You bring up color and party. Do you have a point?
 
I actually do have a "clue" about you, since you were bragging about coming from great wealth on this board previously... and you've spoken about having a career as a prosecutor.
What have I said that is inaccurate?

Why would I envy someone on the downhill slide of life, who can't seem to inform himself about the issues he posts about, and displays consistent hypocrisy and bitterness in his political views?
As far as health and my material needs, I'm all set.. and you certainly don't display any of the intangibles that I would be interested in embodying. You seem decidedly unhappy.

What is there to envy about you? I'm genuinely curious...

unhappy? I love watching those who blame others for their lack of success pretend its not their fault
 
LOL You mean if all they care about is abortion and gay marriage. The GOP has made a killing with single issue voters.

More likely its gun rights than those other two things but some maybe.
 
More likely its gun rights than those other two things but some maybe.

So here's a real question if the Obama administration was so far left and was out to get your guns. Lol.
Now your party controls the house the Senate and the oval office. Are your guns still at risk of being taken? SMH uninformed GOP voters.
 
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