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No More 2 Party System

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EndtheDuopoly

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Would you ever leave the 2 party system and vote for a 3rd party candidate?
 
First, we need to mobilize the local and state governments behind said third party. Picking some wackadoo to run for President doesn't make much sense in practical terms. It would make more sense to build a nationwide movement at the state level prior to pushing for a third-party President in this day and age.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
First, we need to mobilize the local and state governments behind said third party. Picking some wackadoo to run for President doesn't make much sense in practical terms. It would make more sense to build a nationwide movement at the state level prior to pushing for a third-party President in this day and age.
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That's never going to happen. We care too much about Netflix, smart phones, tablets, and video game consoles. Everything is going to remain the same.
 
sookster said:
That's never going to happen. We care too much about Netflix, smart phones, tablets, and video game consoles. Everything is going to remain the same.
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I hope you're wrong, and you should too.
 
EndtheDuopoly said:
Would you ever leave the 2 party system and vote for a 3rd party candidate?
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Essentially that is what millions of people did this election when they rejected both Hillary and a field of sixteen establishment Republicans to put Donald Trump in the White House. He is no ideologue or partisan. Of course both the left and right are in a state of apolexy, but it should be interesting to see how it goes.
 
EndtheDuopoly said:
Would you ever leave the 2 party system and vote for a 3rd party candidate?
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According to the recently released FBI report, saying that makes you a hostile threat to our country and is violating the integrity of our election process.
 
Fishking said:
According to the recently released FBI report, saying that makes you a hostile threat to our country and is violating the integrity of our election process.
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What on earth are you talking about.
 
sookster said:
That's never going to happen. We care too much about Netflix, smart phones, tablets, and video game consoles. Everything is going to remain the same.
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As opposed to the people lining up to elect all those other third party presidents we've had in the last 150 years, when people cared too much about not dying from rickets.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
I hope you're wrong, and you should too.
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Considering we just easily had the worst 2 candidates in US history and people still voted for 1 or the other.......yeah we are stuck with the 2 party system.

Trump did prove an outsider can come in and with a movement behind him take over a party and then the Presidency despite having both parties, the MSM, and not even close to the funding of the opposition. It really is a miracle that he won given the odds. So there is some silver lining to all of this.
 
Nap said:
Considering we just easily had the worst 2 candidates in US history and people still voted for 1 or the other.......yeah we are stuck with the 2 party system.

Trump did prove an outsider can come in and with a movement behind him take over a party and then the Presidency despite having both parties, the MSM, and not even close to the funding of the opposition. It really is a miracle that he won given the odds. So there is some silver lining to all of this.
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Well there you go.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
First, we need to mobilize the local and state governments behind said third party. Picking some wackadoo to run for President doesn't make much sense in practical terms. It would make more sense to build a nationwide movement at the state level prior to pushing for a third-party President in this day and age.
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This is so true. There seems to be far too much focus on the President when this question is raised when it’s in the various levels of congress and senate where multi-party and party-independent elements will bring the most benefit.
 
Exquisitor said:
I don't want to see Congress choosing the President how can we go third party with 270?
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That's almost how this will play out. While Trump is being sworn in as PINO of the USA, the Republican caucus leaders and Joint Chiefs of Staff will be meeting to formulate contingency plans. Trump's leash will be so short that by the end of his term he'll be a figurehead doing what Congress directs and the position of President will be a popularity contest for celebrities and a body-of-work reward for old politicos.
 
Kobie said:
What on earth are you talking about.
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Kobie...sorry, not the FBI. From the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in their "damning" report they just released.

"In an effort to highlight the alleged "lack of democracy" in the United States, RT broadcast, hosted, and advertised third-party candidate debates and ran reporting supportive of the political agenda of these candidates. The RT hosts asserted that the US two-party system does not represent the views of at least one-third of the population and is a "sham.""

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
 
Fishking said:
Kobie...sorry, not the FBI. From the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in their "damning" report they just released.

"In an effort to highlight the alleged "lack of democracy" in the United States, RT broadcast, hosted, and advertised third-party candidate debates and ran reporting supportive of the political agenda of these candidates. The RT hosts asserted that the US two-party system does not represent the views of at least one-third of the population and is a "sham.""

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf
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Your post made it seem as if the FBI was claiming that. Not so much, I see.
 
RetiredUSN said:
Convention of states.

Then change the process to where the most delegates wins.
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Such a change would be like inviting third Parties, who's going to do it?

Grand Mal said:
That's almost how this will play out. While Trump is being sworn in as PINO of the USA, the Republican caucus leaders and Joint Chiefs of Staff will be meeting to formulate contingency plans. Trump's leash will be so short that by the end of his term he'll be a figurehead doing what Congress directs and the position of President will be a popularity contest for celebrities and a body-of-work reward for old politicos.
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The real test will be jobs, will he continue the steady job growth we've seen under Obama, will he increase it?

I like The President on a short leash.

Yes they should have contingency plans you know they have them for you and me.

No change means no Trump, so this will be ok, but I'd rather a successful Trump.
 
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Kobie said:
Your post made it seem as if the FBI was claiming that. Not so much, I see.
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Yeah...that's what I said in the post you quoted. I conflated the FBI report and the new DNI report. The point stands, though. Supporting 3rd party makes you a hostile actor against our nation.
 
Exquisitor said:
Such a change would be like inviting third Parties, who's going to do it?



The real test will be jobs, will he continue the steady job growth we've seen under Obama, will he increase it?

I like The President on a short leash.

Yes they should have contingency plans you know they have them for you and me.

No change means no Trump so this will be ok but I'd rather a successful Trump.
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We need 3rd parties.
 
EndtheDuopoly said:
Would you ever leave the 2 party system and vote for a 3rd party candidate?
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Never been part of the Two Party system, and yes have voted for Independents and third Party candidates several times. There is not Party that represents the vast majority of Americans siding some place in the middle, No Party is 100% correct and No Party is 100% wrong on the issues. Try voting for the Best Interests of the Nation and you will find you will support candidates local, state, and Federal that are going to come from a range of Parties, America First.
 
Fishking said:
Yeah...that's what I said in the post you quoted. I conflated the FBI report and the new DNI report. The point stands, though. Supporting 3rd party makes you a hostile actor against our nation.
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BS, the more People that are willing to put Party behind Nation and vote for a third Party are doing their part to keep the Big Two in check. Think about it, if that 48% that did not vote had all voted for Johnson, he would have won in a landslide. Believe me the leaders of the Big Two do recognize that they need to do better at getting voters to support them, to not do so is doing so at their own peril.
 
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