Sorry I haven't responded in a timely manner to some of your posts. The holiday season has prevented me from being on DP for one reason or other
No worries - I'm in the same bucket.
When was the 2016 presidential election affected by foreign entities? Three months before the election during the Wikileaks disseminations? Possibly with the edicts of the Pope or the UN which happened much sooner in that election cycle? Sidenote: not to mention the constant barrage of information, all with their special spin, from the MSM?
All of the above influenced the 2016 election...quite possible may have contributed to the hardliner voting for some candidates at an early time in the election.
Still not sure why you want to single out Russia for its alleged influence when there's been all this other foreign influence of the 2016 election that we're aware of.
Because Russia - as far as I am aware, is the only actor to have run a clandestine influence operation built around a series of cyber intrusions, in order to influence domestic US politics. None of the other factors you are trying (and failing) to lump in there with Russia are.
To put it in perspective: the logic you are trying to bring to bear here is comparable to Obama's argument that, because more people die in bathtubs, Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorism isn't a big deal and people are silly for thinking it is.
The bathtubs aren't trying to kill us.
In this case, the Brexit vote wasn't a clandestine operation designed to launch a series of hacks against US entities as part of a collection program feeding an information operation campaign. It was about Brexit. The UN wasn't a clandestine operation designed to launch a series of hacks against US entities as part of a collection program feeding an information operation campaign. It was about condemning the Israel for all the things that it's members are actually guilty of. The Pope wasn't a clandestine operation designed to launch a series of hacks against US entities as part of a collection program feeding an information operation campaign. He was a Spiritual leader for Catholics. The MSM wasn't a clandestine operation designed to launch a series of hacks against US entities as part of a collection program feeding an information operation campaign. It was a biased MSM, the same as we've always had.
Critically, however, the MSM is also
American citizens.
American Citizens are absolutely within their rights and Right to attempt to convince their fellow American's of their views.
Vladimir Putin trying to influence the American populace to make them more compliant with his will, not so much.
cpwill said:
But I can't help but notice you didnt' answer the question. Have you been a Globalist the entire time?...
Do you consider attempting to put refugees of the Syrian War in camps, for example, as an example of Trump's (or my) globalism?
Oh. Look. A Non-Sequitor. What do Syrian refugees have to do with your decision to adopt Globalism and defend the claim that foreigners should have just as much if not more influence over our domestic politics than American citizens?
We really have the American people's safety and the integrity of American borders at heart
Evidently not, since you are willing to enlist foreign powers on your behalf against domestic political opponents. So much for Nationalism.
