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Trump won because college-educated Americans are out of touch

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Higher education is isolated, insular and liberal. Average voters aren't.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...u57ROYW2_QCZfkD2w&sig2=5cGzaLR9C5dsYU2qWxvTmQ

As the reality of President-elect Donald Trump settled in very early Wednesday morning, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes summed up an explanation common to many on the left: The Republican nominee pulled ahead thanks to old-fashioned American racism.
But the attempt to make Trump’s victory about racism appears to be at odds with what actually happened on Election Day. Consider the following facts.
Twenty-nine percent of Latinos voted for Trump, per exit polls. Remarkably, despite the near-ubiquitous narrative that Trump would have deep problems with this demographic given his comments and position on immigration, this was a higher percentage of those who voted for GOP nominee Mitt Romney in 2012. Meanwhile, African Americans did not turn out to vote against Trump. In fact, Trump received a higher percentage of African American votes than Romney did.
[Donald Trump wins the presidency in stunning upset over Clinton] .........

The reality is that six in 10 Americans do not have a college degree, and they elected Donald Trump. College-educated people didn’t just fail to see this coming — they have struggled to display even a rudimentary understanding of the worldviews of those who voted for Trump. This is an indictment of the monolithic, insulated political culture in the vast majority our colleges and universities.
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An interesting article that helps explain at least in part what the divide in the nation is.
 
The university has failed, I have been saying it for 25 years, if people dont understand that now then they are hopelessly stupid.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
It's almost as if, when you label people uneducated racist morons, that they won't see your way.
Weird how that works.
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No you dont get it, anyone who gets a university ticket punch and then hangs the "EXPERT" shingle outside their door just assumes that they get to decide everything, that they are right.

It does not work that way, especially now when we see what is going on inside those campuses, when we see how completely the University has failed.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
It's almost as if, when you label people uneducated racist morons, that they won't see your way.
Weird how that works.
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I don't post much around here but I thought this article stood out to help explain in part why what happened last night did.
 
The education gap is very important in understanding the results of this election. Not only is there a pushback at what is viewed as liberal elitism among college educated people, but there is also a misunderstanding from the educated side of the logic of uneducated voters. If someone isn't educated they are more likely to believe in Hillary's anti stroke machine, or the new world order and globalists. If you're educated you might laugh it off, but it is a mistake to assume everyone else will. It's a large flaw in the perspective of educated people.
 
PirateMk1 said:
Higher education is isolated, insular and liberal. Average voters aren't.

An interesting article that helps explain at least in part what the divide in the nation is.
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So the reason why Trump won is because his voters are uneducated?

Well, that's a comforting thought...
 
MrPeanut said:
The education gap is very important in understanding the results of this election. Not only is there a pushback at what is viewed as liberal elitism among college educated people, but there is also a misunderstanding from the educated side of the logic of uneducated voters. If someone isn't educated they are more likely to believe in Hillary's anti stroke machine, or the new world order and globalists. If you're educated you might laugh it off, but it is a mistake to assume everyone else will. It's a large flaw in the perspective of educated people.
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PirateMk1 said:
I don't post much around here but I thought this article stood out to help explain in part why what happened last night did.
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If anything this election has confirmed for me, it's that stupidity and irrationality is not limited to those without university degrees.
Examples: "Trump is going to drop out of the race," "Trump isn't going to show up for the debate" and the various Trump Russia tin foil hat things.

There is definitely a cultural divide between urban and rural, urban believes they're smarter than rural.
 
TheGoverness said:
I think it's really more of the fact that Hillary didn't have much momentum behind her. Trump did.
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I'm working class and I feel I had an inside edge on this election because of it.
Working class folks are not really conservative or liberal, but a mixed bunch, at least in the small rural southern area I live in.
Trump directly appealed to them, early on, even the more religious ones forgave his somewhat liberal views on abortion.
 
Many posts here are attempting to attribute this election to a single parameter, which may have some validity. But I'd argue there's a lot more to HRC's loss (and Trump's win), than this one topic.

I'm still a strong proponent of equality education, and doubt my mind will be easily changed.

But as to condescending attitudes of those with degrees in relation to those less formally educated, well when presented - yeah - that is totally unacceptable. No argument from me there.
 
Trump ultimately won because we still elect a President using an archaic system from the 1700' s that weighs some states votes three times greater that other states votes. If we elected the President by the same methodology that we elect every other office in the land, Trump would be the loser today.
 
Chomsky said:
Many posts here are attempting to attribute this election to a single parameter, which may have some validity. But I'd argue there's a lot more to HRC's loss (and Trump's win), than this one topic.

I'm still a strong proponent of equality education, and doubt my mind will be easily changed.

But as to condescending attitudes of those with degrees in relation to those less formally educated, well when presented - yeah - that is totally unacceptable. No argument from me there.
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I think that, in and of itself, shows who the poorly "educated" are.
A lot of people that are intelligent, simply don't want to go to get a credential and do not want to work in "white collar" professions.
 
MrPeanut said:
The education gap is very important in understanding the results of this election. Not only is there a pushback at what is viewed as liberal elitism among college educated people, but there is also a misunderstanding from the educated side of the logic of uneducated voters. If someone isn't educated they are more likely to believe in Hillary's anti stroke machine, or the new world order and globalists. If you're educated you might laugh it off, but it is a mistake to assume everyone else will. It's a large flaw in the perspective of educated people.
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I think this is a great post! :thumbs:
 
Slyfox696 said:
So the reason why Trump won is because his voters are uneducated?

Well, that's a comforting thought...
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I would suggest reading the article to understand the nuance the author is putting forth.

I myself am not college educated. I am however a businessman and in the 1%. I have been in business for 10+ years. Does my lack of formal education make me less informed or educated than you? Could I have acquired though experience and informal education, an education from the school of life that would be equivalent to an education from a university?

Many businessmen especially those of smaller firms tend to be much more conservative or libertarian in political leanings. Many of them are college educated. Why do you think that is? Cant be ignorance.
 
I think quite a few people with and without formal education, came to the realization that something needs to change
for our country to continue and progress.
Trump represented change, Clinton did not.
 
MrPeanut said:
The education gap is very important in understanding the results of this election. Not only is there a pushback at what is viewed as liberal elitism among college educated people, but there is also a misunderstanding from the educated side of the logic of uneducated voters. If someone isn't educated they are more likely to believe in Hillary's anti stroke machine, or the new world order and globalists. If you're educated you might laugh it off, but it is a mistake to assume everyone else will. It's a large flaw in the perspective of educated people.
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Educated and intelligent people believe in lots of wonky stupid ****.
It's an inherent human trait to see patterns that don't exist.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
I think that, in and of itself, shows who the poorly "educated" are.
A lot of people that are intelligent, simply don't want to go to get a credential and do not want to work in "white collar" professions.
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Or dont want to subject their minds to warping on the failed University.....

But seriously we have got to get over this idea that those who dont sport university ticket punches are not educated. I never graduated from Michigan State, but that in no way means that I am not educated. There are a lot of people out there like me, people who look at these university "educated" idiots who keep assuming that we are stupid and shake our heads. Maybe we get at little hot too, idiots with delusions of grandeur are quite annoying.
 
Harry Guerrilla said:
If anything this election has confirmed for me, it's that stupidity and irrationality is not limited to those without university degrees.
Examples: "Trump is going to drop out of the race," "Trump isn't going to show up for the debate" and the various Trump Russia tin foil hat things.

There is definitely a cultural divide between urban and rural, urban believes they're smarter than rural.
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I think you are right in part, but I also think the author of the article touched on something worth noting. Its more complicated and nuanced I think.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Or dont want to subject their minds to warping on the failed University.....

But seriously we have got to get over this idea that those who dont sport university ticket punches are not educated. I never graduated from Michigan State, but that in no way means that I am not educated. There are a lot of people out their like me, who look at these university "educated" idiots who keep assuming that we are stupid and shake our heads. Maybe we get at little hot to, idiots with delusions of grandeur are quite annoying.
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There is plenty of evidence that "education" does not insulate oneself from believing in stupid and irrational stuff.
Besides the fact, that most people going to university aren't going for "an education" but to get a credential for a job.

You're not an idiot, people that assume you are, are.
 
Chomsky said:
Many posts here are attempting to attribute this election to a single parameter, which may have some validity. But I'd argue there's a lot more to HRC's loss (and Trump's win), than this one topic.

I'm still a strong proponent of equality education, and doubt my mind will be easily changed.

But as to condescending attitudes of those with degrees in relation to those less formally educated, well when presented - yeah - that is totally unacceptable. No argument from me there.
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I think you are correct, it is not a singular thing that elected Trump. I just noticed the article had some salient points as to potential reasons why the country has such a divide.
 
I agree with the OP, because they mostly vote Republican.
 
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