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Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs

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Donald Trump wanted to market a line of men’s clothing that would bear his name.He told people working with him to help find a company known for producing quality merchandise on a mass scale. In the end, Trump signed on with Phillips-Van Heusen, a manufacturer of affordable shirts produced in factories in 85 countries.
The 2004 deal — one of the first of many merchandise-licensing arrangements in which Trump attached his name to products made by foreign workers and sold in the United States — is relevant today as the billionaire businessman wages a populist presidential campaign in which he accuses companies of killing U.S. jobs by moving manufacturing overseas to take advantage of cheap labor and lax workplace regulations.


Donald Trump wanted to market a line of men’s clothing that would bear his name.
He told people working with him to help find a company known for producing quality merchandise on a mass scale. In the end, Trump signed on with Phillips-Van Heusen, a manufacturer of affordable shirts produced in factories in 85 countries.
The 2004 deal — one of the first of many merchandise-licensing arrangements in which Trump attached his name to products made by foreign workers and sold in the United States — is relevant today as the billionaire businessman wages a populist presidential campaign in which he accuses companies of killing U.S. jobs by moving manufacturing overseas to take advantage of cheap labor and lax workplace regulations.


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Currently watching MSNBC and they are airing a Trump presser where Trump has been going off about our trade deals and how he is gonna bring all the jobs back and we are going to make good deals. Well Trumps history of making deals that use US labor are hard to find because they dont exist.
 
Hate the game..
 
Read more @: Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs

Currently watching MSNBC and they are airing a Trump presser where Trump has been going off about our trade deals and how he is gonna bring all the jobs back and we are going to make good deals. Well Trumps history of making deals that use US labor are hard to find because they dont exist. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Which he freely admits. He didn't set the policies, he was just playing within the boundaries of what they were.
 
Read more @: Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs

Currently watching MSNBC and they are airing a Trump presser where Trump has been going off about our trade deals and how he is gonna bring all the jobs back and we are going to make good deals. Well Trumps history of making deals that use US labor are hard to find because they dont exist. [/FONT][/COLOR]

Trump-tards will pretend that no one else makes their stuff in America and excuse his blatant hypocrisy. Some of them will ask how many Jobs did Hillary Create as though pointing out Trump's blatant hypocrisy is an endorsement for Clinton or that there are no other republicans running just to simply deflect.
 
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Yep. I look forward to someone finding a source for the number of jobs Hillary Clinton created...:lamo

How is that relevant to the fact Trump is blatantly a hypocrite when it comes to one his major campaign issues? Shouldn't the guy campaigning against outsourcing and condemning Nabisco and other companies for outsourcing set an example by having all of his clothing line made in the US? This isn't impossible for him to do. All you got to do use google to find a list of companies that make their clothing in the US to see that it is not impossible to make clothing in the US.
 
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Again, nothing matters to Trumpers.

The bizzaro universe of his supporters basically means that no matter what he actually said, or did, it is simply denied.

"He didn't say that".

"But he did, heres the transcript and the video".

"No he didn't"

And that's the end of it.
 
Which he freely admits. He didn't set the policies, he was just playing within the boundaries of what they were.

He cant use domestic labor when choosing which producer to make his products? :doh
 
How is that relevant to the fact Trump is blatantly a hypocrite when it comes to one his major campaign issues? Shouldn't the guy campaigning against outsourcing and condemning Nabisco and other companies for outsourcing set an example by having all of his clothing line made in the US? This isn't impossible for him to do. All you got to do use google to find a list of companies that make their clothing in the US to see that it is not impossible to make clothing in the US.

He plays by the rules set before him. Yes, he's railing against other companies for doing the exact same thing he did. If the media and/or politicians were smart they'd press him about giving those jobs to Americans if he becomes president. However since the media and politicians are more focused on false accusations instead of actually making poignant statements, it never comes up. Remember, MSNBC that is more focused on trying to determine if Trump is a cartoonish super-villain.

As it is now I don't see it as hypocricy because the media is too lazy and incompetent to try and pin him down on giving those jobs to Americans if he becomes president. It's an answer he absolutely shouldn't waffle on. And yes, I don't know if this very issue was brought to him earlier about giving those jobs to Americans.
 
He cant use domestic labor when choosing which producer to make his products? :doh

I'm sure he could have. Just like any corporation could. Of course they will have more regulations do deal with, labor will cost more and they will have more taxes to pay. I'm sure if it wasn't too much more in those respects companies would. but its not.
 
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Currently watching MSNBC and they are airing a Trump presser where Trump has been going off about our trade deals and how he is gonna bring all the jobs back and we are going to make good deals. Well Trumps history of making deals that use US labor are hard to find because they dont exist. [/FONT][/COLOR]

But, what is wrong with acting according to the law in such a purely economic question? This is not to say that I like the idea of Trump being President. But there are good and honest arguments. Reverting to populist mush is unappealing.
 
I'm sure he could have. Just like any corporation could. Of course they will have more regulations do deal with, labor will cost more and they will have more taxes to pay. I'm sure if it wasn't too much more in those respects companies would. but its not.

So are you saying thats not a valid excuse to use? What exactly does your comment I originally quoted implying?
 
He plays by the rules set before him.
That is the biggest load of bull **** that Trump-tards spew. There is nothing in the rules that say he has to outsource because of of other companies make their clothes in America. People who rail against outsourcing shouldn't be outsourcing their products.


Yes, he's railing against other companies for doing the exact same thing he did.

That makes him a lying sack of hypocritical **** when he rails against outsourcing.

If the media and/or politicians were smart they'd press him about giving those jobs to Americans if he becomes president.

They should be pressing him about why isn't now giving those jobs to Americans.He doesn't have to outsource. It is not impossible to make this clothing line in America seeing how lots of other companies.

However since the media and politicians are more focused on false accusations instead of actually making poignant statements, it never comes up. Remember, MSNBC that is more focused on trying to determine if Trump is a cartoonish super-villain.

His hypocrisy on outsourcing is not false. If anything is false it is the fact he claims to be against outsourcing.


We all know MoreStupidNonsenseByCommunists love RINOS until they run for president, Chris Christie is an example of a RINO they loved and praised him for kissing Obama's ass. But as soon as they figured he was running for president they were on him like fat man as his favorite buffet harping about bridge gate 24/7. If Trump wasn't running he would be one of their favorite RINOs.


As it is now I don't see it as hypocricy, because the media is too lazy and incompetent to try and pin him down on giving those jobs to Americans if he becomes president. It's an answer he absolutely shouldn't waffle on. And yes, I don't know if this very issue was brought to him earlier about giving those jobs to Americans.
Trump does not have to wait until he becomes president to give those jobs to Americans. he can do that right now. And if he actually opposed outsourcing his clothing line would be made right here in the US already just like the other companies that make their clothes in America already do.
 
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Read more @: Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs

Currently watching MSNBC and they are airing a Trump presser where Trump has been going off about our trade deals and how he is gonna bring all the jobs back and we are going to make good deals. Well Trumps history of making deals that use US labor are hard to find because they dont exist. [/FONT][/COLOR]

I don't blame Trump for going with an overseas firm ...the US clothing industry sucks big time, primarily because of a lack of talent.

if you're looking for limited production, the US firms might work well.. but for mass production, no one on the US can compete with overseas firms.

but meh, we're too busy mass producing lawyers and liberal arts majors to worry about skilled trades talent.:roll:
 
So are you saying thats not a valid excuse to use? What exactly does your comment I originally quoted implying?

uhhh im puzzled as to what you are trying to say.. perhaps a grammatical review of what you typed? I will give it a go after I can understand it.
 
But, what is wrong with acting according to the law in such a purely economic question? This is not to say that I like the idea of Trump being President. But there are good and honest arguments. Reverting to populist mush is unappealing.

Because someone who campaigns against outsourcing and criticizes companies for outsourcing shouldn't be outsourcing themselves. It doesn't matter if it is legal for him to outsource or puts some extra money in his pockets.
 
Because someone who campaigns against outsourcing and criticizes companies for outsourcing shouldn't be outsourcing themselves. It doesn't matter if it is legal for him to outsource or puts some extra money in his pockets.

That is true. If you criticize for doing something, it is difficult justifying doing yourself.
 
Of course he has. Hell...why dont you call out democrats that claim to want campaign finance reform but still benefit from the current system?
 
That is the biggest load of bull **** that Trump-tards spew. There is nothing in the rules that say he has to outsource because of of other companies make their clothes in America. People who rail against outsourcing shouldn't be outsourcing their products.




That makes him a lying sack of hypocritical **** when he rails against outsourcing.



They should be pressing him about why isn't now giving those jobs to Americans.He doesn't have to outsource. It is not impossible to make this clothing line in America seeing how lots of other companies.



His hypocrisy on outsourcing is not false. If anything is false it is the fact he claims to be against outsourcing.


We all know MoreStupidNonsenseByCommunists love RINOS until they run for president, Chris Christie is an example of a RINO they loved and praised him for kissing Obama's ass. But as soon as they figured he was running for president they were on him like fat man as his favorite buffet harping about bridge gate 24/7. If Trump wasn't running he would be one of their favorite RINOs.


Trump does not have to wait until he becomes president to give those jobs to Americans. he can do that right now. And if he actually opposed outsourcing his clothing line would be made right here in the US already just like the other companies that make their clothes in America already do.

Benefiting from the system we have now isn't hyprocrisy. Trump has frequently mentioned what he would do if he becomes president. Trump is not yet president.
 
What exactly does your comment I originally quoted seem to be implying [Post #4 http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-el...-he-says-killing-u-s-jobs.html#post1065686249 ]?

My comment wasn't implying anything. I was stating that he admits he has products with his name on them made in other countries. He like many other businesses, wouldn't be in those other countries if there were not enough reasons to do so. As I said he didn't set the trade agreements, the regulations, the tax rates etc.. If our corporate taxes were lowered to be competitive internationally and if NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT etc were renegotiated ( several issues need to change with those ) you would see at least some of the companies have operations here again.
 
My comment wasn't implying anything. I was stating that he admits he has products with his name on them made in other countries. He like many other businesses, wouldn't be in those other countries if there were not enough reasons to do so. As I said he didn't set the trade agreements, the regulations, the tax rates etc.. If our corporate taxes were lowered to be competitive internationally and if NAFTA, CAFTA, GATT etc were renegotiated ( several issues need to change with those ) you would see at least some of the companies have operations here again.

:doh
1.)You think Trump would actually renegotiate NAFTA, the TPP!?
"No one can afford to be isolationist any more. Keep your focus global. Globalization has torn down the barriers that have formerly separated the national from the international markets,” Trump said in his 2008 autobiography, Never Give Up." Free trade and the 2016 elections
2.)Our effective corporate tax rate is pretty low... "U.S. corporations pay a similar or a lower effective tax rate — the rate actually paid — than corporations in other countries" Americans for Tax Fairness » Fact Sheet: Corporate Tax Rates

And has been consistently falling
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I truly support american manufacturing and made in USA products. I pay a premium for things made in USA especially mechanics tools, but I still can't help myself from buying foreign crap from wall mart and family dollar because really there isn't much of an option..

Clothes? What sort of in-style clothing is really made in america? I choose nice stuff like abercrombie and american eagle, decent quality clothing, and it is not made in USA..

How is that any different? Me purchasing foreign made products holds just as much guilt as selling offshore products..

How many of you that want USA made products buy all your stuff made in the USA? None of you, because that would be basically impossible the way things are now.
 
Benefiting from the system we have now isn't hyprocrisy. .

Yes it is hypocrisy. When you campaign against the very thing that you yourself does it makes you a hypocrite.


hypocrisy Definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary
a ​situation in which someone ​pretends to ​believe something that they do not really ​believe, or that is the ​opposite of what they do or say at another ​time:
Hypocrisy | Definition of Hypocrisy by Merriam-Webster
: the behavior of people who do things that they tell other people not to do : behavior that does not agree with what someone claims to believe or feel
Trump has frequently mentioned what he would do if he becomes president. Trump is not yet president

Trump does not have to be president to start having his clothing line made in the US. There are no laws preventing him from making his clothes in the US, nor are there any laws saying he has to make his clothing line over seas.

Here is a list of clothing companies that make their clothes in America.Notice that they did not have to wait until they becme president to make their clothes.
Made in America Master List of Products Made in USA
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=List+of+American+made+clothing+companies
 
What you fail/refuse to see is that Trump is going to Washington to change that environment. Why should he cut off the success of his business (and the thousands who work for him right here in America) before the environment is changed? That's foolish.
 
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