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Perry Leads Republican Field in National Poll

LOL, Perry? The man who gives away more corporate welfare than any other state in the union?

Perry? The man who's state has a poverty rate 4x the rate of California?

Perry? The man who's state has a higher percentage of minimum wage jobs in the Country?

Perry? The hypocrite who decries Fema and then turns around and asks for Fema assistance when his state is ravaged by wildfires?


Too funny Con.....then again....you think that GWB was an economic genius....why wouldn't you support the next GWB for President?

1. Define "corporate welfare". People seem to think offering a lower corporate tax rate than a neighboring state is "welfare", so without a solid definition your statement is really just an opinion and I can't really respond to that.

2. In 2010, Texas was at 16% http://www.basicneedscoalition.org/documents/2010PovertyFactsheet.pdf
In 2010, California's poverty rate was about 14.2%. Using 2010 population numbers that means that California had 532,731ish people in poverty and Texas had 402,239ish people in poverty. There is no mathematic calculation that would give you a 4x-larger poverty rate for Texas than for California.

3. At minimum wage your take home, after taxes (without benefits) for 40 hours a week would average out to $1,005 a month. Here in Dallas you can get a 1 bedroom apartment for $325. Electricity averages about $100. Gas is $3.50/gallon right now. You can get basic cable and internet access for $50/month, and you can get a cell phone plan for $40. That comes out to $515, plus gas and groceries, which can be covered by the remainder of your monthly income. Basically, a single adult in Texas could feasibly survive making the current minimum wage.

4. Yeah, FEMA sucks. But there are no other options available. Once the state has exhausted all of it's funds and resources, something else kicks in...federal disaster aid. And that comes through FEMA. Saying the program sucks and then being put in a position where you have no other choice than you use it isn't a condemnation of your character...it's an acceptance of facts. Your state burns yearly. And you battle mudslides, earthquakes, and any other number of natural disasters. Could your state afford to take care of every disaster without federal aid? Is there any state that could afford to cover all unexpected disasters without federal aid? Does disliking the structure of the system mean you should stand on principle and refuse that system when the people of your state need aid?
 
1. Define "corporate welfare". People seem to think offering a lower corporate tax rate than a neighboring state is "welfare", so without a solid definition your statement is really just an opinion and I can't really respond to that.

2. In 2010, Texas was at 16% http://www.basicneedscoalition.org/documents/2010PovertyFactsheet.pdf
In 2010, California's poverty rate was about 14.2%. Using 2010 population numbers that means that California had 532,731ish people in poverty and Texas had 402,239ish people in poverty. There is no mathematic calculation that would give you a 4x-larger poverty rate for Texas than for California.

3. At minimum wage your take home, after taxes (without benefits) for 40 hours a week would average out to $1,005 a month. Here in Dallas you can get a 1 bedroom apartment for $325. Electricity averages about $100. Gas is $3.50/gallon right now. You can get basic cable and internet access for $50/month, and you can get a cell phone plan for $40. That comes out to $515, plus gas and groceries, which can be covered by the remainder of your monthly income. Basically, a single adult in Texas could feasibly survive making the current minimum wage.

4. Yeah, FEMA sucks. But there are no other options available. Once the state has exhausted all of it's funds and resources, something else kicks in...federal disaster aid. And that comes through FEMA. Saying the program sucks and then being put in a position where you have no other choice than you use it isn't a condemnation of your character...it's an acceptance of facts. Your state burns yearly. And you battle mudslides, earthquakes, and any other number of natural disasters. Could your state afford to take care of every disaster without federal aid? Is there any state that could afford to cover all unexpected disasters without federal aid? Does disliking the structure of the system mean you should stand on principle and refuse that system when the people of your state need aid?

Waste of time but great post. Obama supporters don't respond to anything that refutes their opinions which they pass off as facts. Problem is most get their infromation from leftwing sites and always trust those cites instead of verifying the rhetoric.

What Disneydude doesn't want to address is that California has a $8 minimum wage vs. the national rate of 7.25 and that California has a much higher number and percentage making the California minimum wage vs. Texas on the Federal Minimum wage. BLS doesn't calculate percentages of state minimum wages different from the National Minimum rate but the California labor dept does.
 
1. Define "corporate welfare". People seem to think offering a lower corporate tax rate than a neighboring state is "welfare", so without a solid definition your statement is really just an opinion and I can't really respond to that.

Perry didn't just offer lower corporate taxes. He actually offered government grants to companies for moving to his state. And many of those who got that money were those who donated to his campaign.

2. In 2010, Texas was at 16% http://www.basicneedscoalition.org/documents/2010PovertyFactsheet.pdf
In 2010, California's poverty rate was about 14.2%. Using 2010 population numbers that means that California had 532,731ish people in poverty and Texas had 402,239ish people in poverty. There is no mathematic calculation that would give you a 4x-larger poverty rate for Texas than for California.

This I can't argue with. The number was obviously exaggerated.

Texas is still at the bottom though for poverty and minimum wage.

3. At minimum wage your take home, after taxes (without benefits) for 40 hours a week would average out to $1,005 a month. Here in Dallas you can get a 1 bedroom apartment for $325. Electricity averages about $100. Gas is $3.50/gallon right now. You can get basic cable and internet access for $50/month, and you can get a cell phone plan for $40. That comes out to $515, plus gas and groceries, which can be covered by the remainder of your monthly income. Basically, a single adult in Texas could feasibly survive making the current minimum wage.

You need to provide some proof that it is feasible for many people to find a 1 bedroom apartment in Dallas for $325. When I look online at the average rent in Dallas and at the sites to find rental places from, it says that the average 1 bdrm rent is around $900. If the $325/month rent is only available for a very few apartments, it isn't really honest to say that anyone can get rent for that amount. I'd go for the $400-500/month rent, which is more reasonable for actually being available since most are not going to get that $325 apartment. And I think your cable/internet price is off. The only prices I can find for these together is around $90-$100/month (not counting fees/taxes). But people can do without cable/internet.

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There are other things to take into account as well. If the person requires gas money, it is also likely that they have some car payment plus they would also require insurance. But you could reduce it to about $40/month if you assume they use the bus. And then there is laundry and utilities. You mentioned electricity, but not utilities, such as water, gas, sewage, and/or trash. And many people who would be making min. wage are not going to be able to afford a washer/dryer of their own, and low rent places generally do not have any. That is another $40/month at least. Utilities look to be about $50/month in Dallas (the average I can find is actually a lot higher, but think it includes all residences).

So the real cost is going to be closer to $600/month for someone who doesn't drive and doesn't get cable/internet. Which leaves $400 a month for groceries, toiletries, and extras like clothes and shoes and entertainment. My sister lives like this. It isn't fun. And if she has one extra expense, like them raising her rent or her having to miss a day of work, she is short on money. And she makes above minimum wage.

One thing people don't seem to realize is that a lot of people working minimum/low wage jobs aren't actually getting 40 hours a week in. Usually, they are scheduled for around 35-38 hours/week.

4. Yeah, FEMA sucks. But there are no other options available. Once the state has exhausted all of it's funds and resources, something else kicks in...federal disaster aid. And that comes through FEMA. Saying the program sucks and then being put in a position where you have no other choice than you use it isn't a condemnation of your character...it's an acceptance of facts. Your state burns yearly. And you battle mudslides, earthquakes, and any other number of natural disasters. Could your state afford to take care of every disaster without federal aid? Is there any state that could afford to cover all unexpected disasters without federal aid? Does disliking the structure of the system mean you should stand on principle and refuse that system when the people of your state need aid?

No, but Perry should also not be talking about how the state of TX is so great and can take care of themselves when their system results in a lack of fall-back money in case these things happen. In fact, the state had to cut funding to firefighting because of their money issues. In the long run, that could lead to TX requiring more money from the fed to help with cleanup from fires that could have been put out quicker, with a lot less damage, had that funding not been cut.
 
Perry didn't just offer lower corporate taxes. He actually offered government grants to companies for moving to his state. And many of those who got that money were those who donated to his campaign.



This I can't argue with. The number was obviously exaggerated.

Texas is still at the bottom though for poverty and minimum wage.



You need to provide some proof that it is feasible for many people to find a 1 bedroom apartment in Dallas for $325. When I look online at the average rent in Dallas and at the sites to find rental places from, it says that the average 1 bdrm rent is around $900. If the $325/month rent is only available for a very few apartments, it isn't really honest to say that anyone can get rent for that amount. I'd go for the $400-500/month rent, which is more reasonable for actually being available since most are not going to get that $325 apartment. And I think your cable/internet price is off. The only prices I can find for these together is around $90-$100/month (not counting fees/taxes). But people can do without cable/internet.

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There are other things to take into account as well. If the person requires gas money, it is also likely that they have some car payment plus they would also require insurance. But you could reduce it to about $40/month if you assume they use the bus. And then there is laundry and utilities. You mentioned electricity, but not utilities, such as water, gas, sewage, and/or trash. And many people who would be making min. wage are not going to be able to afford a washer/dryer of their own, and low rent places generally do not have any. That is another $40/month at least. Utilities look to be about $50/month in Dallas (the average I can find is actually a lot higher, but think it includes all residences).

So the real cost is going to be closer to $600/month for someone who doesn't drive and doesn't get cable/internet. Which leaves $400 a month for groceries, toiletries, and extras like clothes and shoes and entertainment. My sister lives like this. It isn't fun. And if she has one extra expense, like them raising her rent or her having to miss a day of work, she is short on money. And she makes above minimum wage.

One thing people don't seem to realize is that a lot of people working minimum/low wage jobs aren't actually getting 40 hours a week in. Usually, they are scheduled for around 35-38 hours/week.



No, but Perry should also not be talking about how the state of TX is so great and can take care of themselves when their system results in a lack of fall-back money in case these things happen. In fact, the state had to cut funding to firefighting because of their money issues. In the long run, that could lead to TX requiring more money from the fed to help with cleanup from fires that could have been put out quicker, with a lot less damage, had that funding not been cut.

1. I am still waiting for a definition of "corporate welfare". I don't personally think that a grant is necessarily welfare.

2. Yeah...based on percentages. But looking at percentages only give syou half of the picture.

3. I based my information on personal experience. Our internet/cable was $60 a month until we moved to an area where the provider wasn't available. We have something like 8 providers here, but they don't cover all service areas. Public transit is available throughout greater Dallas county (and extending into Denton and Collin county in the next few years). The "average" cost is skewed because of places like Highland Park, the Upper E, and Uptown, where a 400 sq. foot studio apartment will cost you $1400 a month (and for some idiotic reason people actually pay that). Here are at least four (didn't load page two) complexes with rent starting below 400. Most complexes also offer rent-control/discounts for those making under 27k/year (single). Apartments.com | Find Apartments for Rent, Houses, Condos and Townhomes | Rental Listings. Water, gas, and trash are usually covered in the rent down here.

In any case, it is possible to live down here on the minimum wage. Can the same be said for California or New York? Even using their increased state-level minimum wage, I don't see it happening.

4. There is no state in this country that can afford to handle what Texas has seen in wild fire damage this year. Not even when we weren't in a massive recession. These fires were unprecedented and even withou the cuts we would have been looking to the federal government for aid. As would the other 49 states if they had to deal with something similar. When Arkansas and Missouri got blasted by massive tornados I don't recall a lot of people saying, "If they hadn't cut their disaster budgets they wouldn't need government aid", and yet they did cut their disaster budgets, just like everybody else did (or at least, most states I'm sure). Singling out Texas because its governor has been vocal about the failings of FEMA is hypocritical or at least dishonest.
 
roguenuke;1059784058]Perry didn't just offer lower corporate taxes. He actually offered government grants to companies for moving to his state. And many of those who got that money were those who donated to his campaign.

Bringing Business to TX brought taxpayers to TX and has boosted the economy. He did nothing that your state couldn't do

This I can't argue with. The number was obviously exaggerated.

That is your opinion and the entire point is irrelevant. In TX we have low taxes and more freedoms than people of California have. We also have a choice here and in November 2010 the people spoke overwhelming that they support what is going on in TX

Texas is still at the bottom though for poverty and minimum wage.

Again, irrelevant because statistics don't cover states with their own minimum wage like California which is $8 an hour. Think you can live well on $8 an hour in California? BLS data compares states using the Federal Minimum wage and since TX has the largest workforce they are going to have the highest percentage even though that is less than 6%

You need to provide some proof that it is feasible for many people to find a 1 bedroom apartment in Dallas for $325. When I look online at the average rent in Dallas and at the sites to find rental places from, it says that the average 1 bdrm rent is around $900. If the $325/month rent is only available for a very few apartments, it isn't really honest to say that anyone can get rent for that amount. I'd go for the $400-500/month rent, which is more reasonable for actually being available since most are not going to get that $325 apartment. And I think your cable/internet price is off. The only prices I can find for these together is around $90-$100/month (not counting fees/taxes). But people can do without cable/internet.

Why don't you leave personal choice issues to the individual and not judge others by your own standards. People choose to live in TX and people choose to move to TX. That is reality. Try living in California on the minimum wage in California. Want to bet that there are less Californians on California minimum wage than there are Texans on the Federal Minimum wage? If so I will take that bet

One thing people don't seem to realize is that a lot of people working minimum/low wage jobs aren't actually getting 40 hours a week in. Usually, they are scheduled for around 35-38 hours/week.

Lived and worked in TX for the past 19 years. Employed about 1200 Texan workers and although I never paid minimum wage even though I had many hourly employees I always guaranteed individual a full forty hours a week. Do you think people in California work a full 40 hours a week on California minimum wage? You better get your facts right because California overtime laws make it impossible for business to give minimum wage employees 40 hour weeks.


No, but Perry should also not be talking about how the state of TX is so great and can take care of themselves when their system results in a lack of fall-back money in case these things happen. In fact, the state had to cut funding to firefighting because of their money issues. In the long run, that could lead to TX requiring more money from the fed to help with cleanup from fires that could have been put out quicker, with a lot less damage, had that funding not been cut.

Moving to TX was the best move in my life for my family and for me. You certainly have a distorted view as to the role of the central govt. We have local and county taxes that pay for fire fighters and police protection. There is nothing that prevents people from funding more if the need arises. Firefighters don't clean up after the fires which are a natural disaster funded by the taxpayers. Last I checked TX contributes signicantly to Federal Tax revenue especially with the job growth here. TX balanced the budget as required. How is California doing?
 
1. I am still waiting for a definition of "corporate welfare". I don't personally think that a grant is necessarily welfare.

Many do, especially when you are talking about businesses that have some connection to the governor before they are approved for such grants.

2. Yeah...based on percentages. But looking at percentages only give syou half of the picture.

How would you look at it? I see a state that would rather spend money on luring businesses that support the governor than money on education and improving the living conditions of its lowest paid workers. I'm not saying they are the only one, but it doesn't make it okay to be one of several. Maybe instead of comparing TX to states like CA and NY, which everyone knows are doing crappy (at least in the major areas), you should look at states that are helping business and still keeping their education and healthcare levels pretty decent.

3. I based my information on personal experience. Our internet/cable was $60 a month until we moved to an area where the provider wasn't available. We have something like 8 providers here, but they don't cover all service areas. Public transit is available throughout greater Dallas county (and extending into Denton and Collin county in the next few years). The "average" cost is skewed because of places like Highland Park, the Upper E, and Uptown, where a 400 sq. foot studio apartment will cost you $1400 a month (and for some idiotic reason people actually pay that). Here are at least four (didn't load page two) complexes with rent starting below 400. Most complexes also offer rent-control/discounts for those making under 27k/year (single). Apartments.com | Find Apartments for Rent, Houses, Condos and Townhomes | Rental Listings. Water, gas, and trash are usually covered in the rent down here.

And how many of those for under $400 are actually available, especially for that price? Many of the ones in those listings give a range of prices for those units, which likely means the price depends on location of the specific apartment within the complex. So it is possible that those at the under $400/m aren't even available. And how is $390/month that different than $400/month? So you might have 100 apartments available for under $400, but most are going to be pretty close to $400/month. There are likely maybe about 10 apartments available in Dallas for $325/month.

I got the cable/internet cost from the net and did not include it in that $600/month, since people do not actually need either.

In any case, it is possible to live down here on the minimum wage. Can the same be said for California or New York? Even using their increased state-level minimum wage, I don't see it happening.

I agree that CA and NY have major issues with their COL. But that doesn't mean that TX is doing a great job, as is trying to be presented by Gov. Perry.

4. There is no state in this country that can afford to handle what Texas has seen in wild fire damage this year. Not even when we weren't in a massive recession. These fires were unprecedented and even withou the cuts we would have been looking to the federal government for aid. As would the other 49 states if they had to deal with something similar. When Arkansas and Missouri got blasted by massive tornados I don't recall a lot of people saying, "If they hadn't cut their disaster budgets they wouldn't need government aid", and yet they did cut their disaster budgets, just like everybody else did (or at least, most states I'm sure). Singling out Texas because its governor has been vocal about the failings of FEMA is hypocritical or at least dishonest.

And that isn't what I said. I don't have any issue with any state asking for money for natural disasters, including TX. I am pointing out that TX cannot do it by itself, despite what Gov. Perry has been saying.

And Texas is cutting money to specific services that it needs, such as firefighting. These are services that are needed and need to be well funded to help reduce the cost of clean up for natural disasters. It is much better to have safeguards that cost a little money in place, which might help stop some of the damage before it happens, than to have to wait for help from other places and hope that it doesn't get a lot worse. I would be saying the same thing about any state that complained about how much money the federal government was spending, praised their state for being able to spend very little money, but still was cutting essential services for the health, welfare, and safety of their state.

It would be like me complaining how much my renter's insurance costs, but not having things like a fire alarm, working smoke detector, other fire safeguards in the house. Now if I have a fire, it is likely going to destroy everything and could end up in the death of one or more of my family. If I had some of those safeguards in place to begin with, there most likely still would have been damage, but it probably would have been a lot less and likely would not result in a death. And it would have cost me less in the long run as well. Many places give discounts on renter's insurance for having safeguards in place, including my current policy. These are things states must look at.
 
He is for reform and like me doesn't want to reward bad behavior. Raising the cap doesn't recover the trillions wasted by the Federal Govt. and those politicians. If you raise the cap then raise the maximum amount received.

Are you saying that he doesn’t say the Social Security trust fund is “derived from dubious government accounting?

I am saying and have supported it. It operates like a Ponzi scheme and surpluses over the years has been spent. It isn't there for you as you expected



Guess those IOU's don't really exist? Liberals do have vivid imaginations.



Your point? Of course it collected more than it paid out, but that is irrelevant, what did they do with the money?



More was paid out in 2010 than was taken in as the Treasury shows but you ignore.



Refuting what a liberal says is never accepted by a liberal even when documented.


Only in wingerland is having an expectation of receiving what you, and your employer have paid into for your entire working lives considered“Rewording bad behavior” even though uncle sugar is on the hook for a $2.6 trillion debt that is accruing a bit of interest .

GOOD GOD MAN, do you ever look at what you post? Of course that’s pretty lame compared to this utterance that came out of one of your orifices, still up in the air which one though.

You said in this thread,a couple of paragraphs upstream, “It operates like a Ponzi scheme and surpluses over the years has been spent". What!! From 1983 thru 2011, the trust fund collected more in SS taxes than it paid out in benefits. Since when does a Ponzi scheme collect more than it pays out? Good grief what nonsense you post at the rate of 30+post per day.

Most of the time you use the same bs that’s been used in most of your previous threads. Not this time though, it’s from a couple of paragraphs upstream. Normally this kinda S occurs later in the night, this time, it’s popping up in the same post, in prime time. Sundown syndrome?:shock:

Moven on down the road…still don’t see where you have refuted anything that I have posted. It still looks like the ryanscheme is classic winger "starve the beast” tactic to me.

Gotta make that quota of at least 30+post per day regardless of the BS that dribbles from your computer eh?:2wave:
 
Only in wingerland is having an expectation of receiving what you, and your employer have paid into for your entire working lives considered“Rewording bad behavior” even though uncle sugar is on the hook for a $2.6 trillion debt that is accruing a bit of interest .

GOOD GOD MAN, do you ever look at what you post? Of course that’s pretty lame compared to this utterance that came out of one of your orifices, still up in the air which one though.

You said in this thread,a couple of paragraphs upstream, “It operates like a Ponzi scheme and surpluses over the years has been spent". What!! From 1983 thru 2011, the trust fund collected more in SS taxes than it paid out in benefits. Since when does a Ponzi scheme collect more than it pays out? Good grief what nonsense you post at the rate of 30+post per day.

Most of the time you use the same bs that’s been used in most of your previous threads. Not this time though, it’s from a couple of paragraphs upstream. Normally this kinda S occurs later in the night, this time, it’s popping up in the same post, in prime time. Sundown syndrome?:shock:

Moven on down the road…still don’t see where you have refuted anything that I have posted. It still looks like the ryanscheme is classic winger "starve the beast” tactic to me.

Gotta make that quota of at least 30+post per day regardless of the BS that dribbles from your computer eh?:2wave:

Since you obviously don't understand what I have posted and the fact that I have refuted you with actual facts, it is a waste of time doing it again. You won't have to worry about reading another post from me to you.
 
Since you obviously don't understand what I have posted and the fact that I have refuted you with actual facts, it is a waste of time doing it again. You won't have to worry about reading another post from me to you.

You haven't refuted **** and you know it.:2wave:
 
While praying to God for rain to put out the Texas forest fires for him, perhaps Rick Perry should have prayed for the intelligence NOT to cut the firefighting budget by 75%

"According to KVUE-TV, the state of Texas, under Gov. Rick Perry, cut state funding for the volunteer fire departments that protect most of the state from wildfires.

Firefighters have actually been dipping into their own pockets to fight fires. Volunteer departments that were already facing financial strain had their funding cut from $30 million to $7 million. "

The Immoral Minority: While praying to God for rain to put out the Texas forest fires for him, perhaps Rick Perrry should have prayed for the intelligence NOT to cut the firefighting budget by 75%.
 
Gee, a guy named 'Dixie' doesn't like a black President. I'm shocked.

Fitting that you would also use a quote from a draft dodger as your signature.

News Hounds: Proof: Ted Nugent Is A Draft Dodger. Will Hannity Keep Defending Him?

(Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.
Great role model.
 
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Fitting that you would also use a quote from a draft dodger as your signature.

News Hounds: Proof: Ted Nugent Is A Draft Dodger. Will Hannity Keep Defending Him?

(Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.
Great role model.

Ted Nugent is a douche.

he should suck on his own machine gun..
 
Its time to get out the popcorn and chill the beer... watching the Republicans go national with their "can't miss" Sharon Engle and Christine O'Donnell election strategy is going to be fun to watch. Bazooka armed, foot in the crosshairs.

Its time for another beer and popcorn run. Who'd a thunk that the party that is all about family values would prop up a serial adulterer that likes open marriages or the party that supposedly understood the economy would nominate a guy who made a fortune offshoring jobs and thinks everyone make $10,000 bets.

The circus that is the 2012 Republican Primary season is one of the greatest comedy of human history. This is shaping up to be even better than anticipated last summer.
 
Its time for another beer and popcorn run. Who'd a thunk that the party that is all about family values would prop up a serial adulterer that likes open marriages or the party that supposedly understood the economy would nominate a guy who made a fortune offshoring jobs and thinks everyone make $10,000 bets.

The circus that is the 2012 Republican Primary season is one of the greatest comedy of human history. This is shaping up to be even better than anticipated last summer.

It is indeed more fun than an amusement park - especially in winter. And we have not even seen the big guns come out against the eventual republican nominee as it will later this summer and next fall. This is going to be good.
 
Gee, a guy named 'Dixie' doesn't like a black President. I'm shocked.

Fitting that you would also use a quote from a draft dodger as your signature.

News Hounds: Proof: Ted Nugent Is A Draft Dodger. Will Hannity Keep Defending Him?

(Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.
Great role model.

This proves that Nugent has been full of *&#@ for a long time now.
 
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