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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Still special pleading? The Confederacy was unlawful. How did they secede if they lost? It is like saying the American Revolution would have only been the American rebellion if the US had lost.
    You failed. You didn't cut-paste the clause that prohibits any state from seceding from, leaving, quitting, etc. the union.

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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Samwise View Post
    You failed. You didn't cut-paste the clause that prohibits any state from seceding from, leaving, quitting, etc. the union.
    The South never had any chance to secede, they rebelled. It really is that simple.

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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    But the language of the Constitution prohibits secession according to all scholarly opinion

    You have your opinion that the Constitution does not prohibit secession, but you are alone in thinking that
    For you there is no-one else

    So believe what you want; a flat earth, creation, unicorns, whatever, being in a democracy give you the right to be wrong.
    It's not an opinion. There is no clause in the constitution that prohibits any state from seceding from, leaving, quitting, etc. the union. Unless you would like to cut-and-paste the any such language you think exists.

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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    The South never had any chance to secede, they rebelled. It really is that simple.
    The South tried to secede by the only means open to them - by force of arms.

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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Samwise View Post
    It's not an opinion. There is no clause in the constitution that prohibits any state from seceding from, leaving, quitting, etc. the union. Unless you would like to cut-and-paste the any such language you think exists.
    Your opinion is that the Constitution doesn't prohibit secession


    But all scholarly opinion says it does

    You have your opinion that the Constitution does not prohibit secession, but you are alone in thinking that


    So believe what you want; a flat earth, creation, unicorns, whatever, being in a democracy give you the right to be wrong.

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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    The South tried to secede by the only means open to them - by force of arms.
    Which is a form of rebellion termed and styled, insurrection.

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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Your opinion is that the Constitution doesn't prohibit secession

    But all scholarly opinion says it does

    You have your opinion that the Constitution does not prohibit secession, but you are alone in thinking that

    So believe what you want; a flat earth, creation, unicorns, whatever, being in a democracy give you the right to be wrong.
    It's not an opinion. If you would like to copy-and-paste the clause that forbids any state from seceding from, quitting, leaving, etc. the union, then please feel free. So far you have been impotent to do so.

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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Samwise View Post
    It's not an opinion. There is no clause in the constitution that prohibits any state from seceding from, leaving, quitting, etc. the union. Unless you would like to cut-and-paste the any such language you think exists.
    Forming a confederacy was insurrection.

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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Insisting on eminent domain is a right secured by our federal Constitution. The South had every chance to succeed without secession.

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    Re: Constitution contains no language prohibiting secession

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Your opinion is that the Constitution doesn't prohibit secession


    But all scholarly opinion says it does

    You have your opinion that the Constitution does not prohibit secession, but you are alone in thinking that


    So believe what you want; a flat earth, creation, unicorns, whatever, being in a democracy give you the right to be wrong.
    Besides the fact that your response does not fullfill Samwise's request, you are wrong in saying all scholarly opinion say that the Constitution prohibits secession.

    As a matter of fact, 3 scholars in the original decision discented so at least three state otherwise. Many of todays scholars agree with those three as well

    Thus, once again your statement is demonstrably wrong.
    Last edited by TedintheShed; 06-30-20 at 01:52 AM.

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