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California Democrats using Cvid to cancel the constitution, state of emergency until May!

EMNofSeattle

EMNofSeattle

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It speaks for itself.

Coronavirus: Los Angeles to shelter in place for months, mayor tells us - Business Insider

Turns out all it took was the Chinese sniffles for fascism to take charge in America.

This is a day after an Oxford study concluded it was likely that half of the UKs population was already exposed meaning total case fatality is far lower then the flu

Half of United Kingdom Already Infected With Coronavirus, Says Oxford Model – Reason.com

Also the main researcher behind the imperial college model that cited millions of deaths has basically admitted his model was deeply flawed and that actual fatalities are lower then his estimate. Orders of magnitude lower.

UK has enough intensive care units for coronavirus, expert predicts | New Scientist

So as the science begins to show we’ve overreacted, the liberal democrats are clamping down tighter.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It speaks for itself.

Coronavirus: Los Angeles to shelter in place for months, mayor tells us - Business Insider

Turns out all it took was the Chinese sniffles for fascism to take charge in America.

This is a day after an Oxford study concluded it was likely that half of the UKs population was already exposed meaning total case fatality is far lower then the flu

Half of United Kingdom Already Infected With Coronavirus, Says Oxford Model – Reason.com

Also the main researcher behind the imperial college model that cited millions of deaths has basically admitted his model was deeply flawed and that actual fatalities are lower then his estimate. Orders of magnitude lower.

UK has enough intensive care units for coronavirus, expert predicts | New Scientist

So as the science begins to show we’ve overreacted, the liberal democrats are clamping down tighter.
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"The old model was wrong, here's a new model which is probably also wrong."

No one knows what the **** is going to happen or how much danger we're really in. We're playing with fire and governments are erring on the side of caution. Who can blame them.
 
For all those claiming China's claimed number of deaths is accurate, this is one the least lethal flu-like virus to go thru the human race and overwhelmingly less lethal than the common flu.

But, wow, has a couple trillion dollars been made off this just out of the stock market so far. So it's not like EVERYONE is losing out of it.

This already is the greatest theft of wealth by the super rich internationalists in the history of the USA and modern world.
 
joko104 said:
For all those claiming China's claimed number of deaths is accurate, this is one the least lethal flu-like virus to go thru the human race and overwhelmingly less lethal than the common flu.

But, wow, has a couple trillion dollars been made off this just out of the stock market so far. So it's not like EVERYONE is losing out of it.

This already is the greatest theft of wealth by the super rich internationalists in the history of the USA and modern world.
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You have no authority or basis whatsoever to be making claims about the lethality of CoVid-19 versus the many, many different varieties and strains of influenza. There's no clear consensus yet on how deadly it is because we don't have all the data. No one has a clear answer. Certainly not you.

Oh, and you know nothing about the stock market either. No one made trillions of dollars.
 
Irredentist said:
"The old model was wrong, here's a new model which is probably also wrong."

No one knows what the **** is going to happen or how much danger we're really in. We're playing with fire and governments are erring on the side of caution. Who can blame them.
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How, exactly, is increasing annual federal spending by almost 50% erring on the side of caution? It seems to me that is tossing caution to the wind and pumping out borrowed money in every conceivable (some not even remotely justified) direction just so that elected morons can claim to have "acted immediately" and in "historic, bipartisan fashion".
 
Irredentist said:
You have no authority or basis whatsoever to be making claims about the lethality of CoVid-19 versus the many, many different varieties and strains of influenza. There's no clear consensus yet on how deadly it is because we don't have all the data. No one has a clear answer. Certainly not you.

Oh, and you know nothing about the stock market either. No one made trillions of dollars.
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Your's a foolish message indicating you don't grasp simple math nor how the stock market works. Even the most simple minded understand if you buy low and sell high you make a profit. You think the stock market is just putting money into a 401K and then watch its value somehow just magically grow over time. The stock market at one level is a ponzi scheme exactly hoping people like you to get into it.

On Tuesday the Dow Jones increased 2,100 points - largest increase in 80 years - and you claim no one made a dollar out of it. That is how foolish your message is.

Stock market live updates: Dow soars 2,100 points, stimulus close
 
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Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti warns of mass death, condemns 'false hope,' and tells us his city will be on lockdown for another 2 months — and to 'be prepared for longer'
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The political left luvs any pretext to shut down economic activity because it makes people more dependent on the government. Remember that this rotten leftist prick will still get his 250k salary, full health benefits, and his gold-plated pension while he's preventing other people from earning a living.
 
joko104 said:
Your's a foolish message indicating you don't grasp simple math nor how the stock market works. Even the most simple minded understand if you buy low and sell high you make a profit. You think the stock market is just putting money into a 401K and then watch its value somehow just magically grow over time. The stock market at one level is a ponzi scheme exactly hoping people like you to get into it.
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I'm aware of how shorting the market works, I've done it myself. But trillions of dollars? No. Pure hyperbole.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
How, exactly, is increasing annual federal spending by almost 50% erring on the side of caution? It seems to me that is tossing caution to the wind and pumping out borrowed money in every conceivable (some not even remotely justified) direction just so that elected morons can claim to have "acted immediately" and in "historic, bipartisan fashion".
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I was actually talking about the lockdown measures to inhibit the spread of coronavirus, not the financial relief bill.

Personally, I would have structured the bailout differently. But that's Congress for you.

In times of crisis, I prefer executive action to republicanism.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Turns out all it took was the Chinese sniffles for fascism to take charge in America.
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Fascists didn’t shut down their economies or stop people from going outside (or to church) . . .

It’s more akin to communism, albeit more extreme than historical communist policies.
 
Irredentist said:
I'm aware of how shorting the market works, I've done it myself. But trillions of dollars? No. Pure hyperbole.
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It isn't just shorting the market. You really never heard of "buy low, sell high?" :roll:
 
AmNat said:
Fascists didn’t shut down their economies or stop people from going outside (or to church) . . .

It’s more akin to communism, albeit more extreme than historical communist policies.
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When the chips are down, even mighty capitalist America invokes a command economy. Who would have thought? Guess the communists were right about one thing XD
 
Irredentist said:
I was actually talking about the lockdown measures to inhibit the spread of coronavirus, not the financial relief bill.

Personally, I would have structured the bailout differently. But that's Congress for you.

In times of crisis, I prefer executive action to republicanism.
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OK, how are those "lockdown measures" working in NYC?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
OK, how are those "lockdown measures" working in NYC?
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What do you mean "how are they working"? Is New York in a bad situation? Obviously. Should they relax restrictions? **** no are you joking?
 
Irredentist said:
When the chips are down, even mighty capitalist America invokes a command economy. Who would have thought? Guess the communists were right about one thing XD
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The commies certainly knew how to inflict suffering on large numbers of people. No one can compare.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It speaks for itself.

Coronavirus: Los Angeles to shelter in place for months, mayor tells us - Business Insider

Turns out all it took was the Chinese sniffles for fascism to take charge in America.
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That's extremely disingenuous to the >1K Americans who already have perished.

And after Looking at N.Y.C., you better believe L.A. (and other cities) has every reason to continue their lockdown.

EMNofSeattle said:
This is a day after an Oxford study concluded it was likely that half of the UKs population was already exposed meaning total case fatality is far lower then the flu

Half of United Kingdom Already Infected With Coronavirus, Says Oxford Model – Reason.com
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??

The article actually points to errors in the study. If you wanted to link to a source to support your argument, that surely was not the source to use. See the excerpt below:

The researchers do acknowledge that "these results underscore the dependence of the inferred epidemic curve on the assumed fraction of the population vulnerable to severe disease." Well, yes.

This is basically a circular argument: If the disease is not particularly severe then that means a larger percentage of the population must have already have been infected to yield the observed number of deaths. On the other hand, if the disease risk is severe then the observed deaths suggest that very few people must currently be infected.
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EMNofSeattle said:
Also the main researcher behind the imperial college model that cited millions of deaths has basically admitted his model was deeply flawed and that actual fatalities are lower then his estimate. Orders of magnitude lower.

UK has enough intensive care units for coronavirus, expert predicts | New Scientist

So as the science begins to show we’ve overreacted, the liberal democrats are clamping down tighter.
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I just read the article, and saw nothing of the sort. In fact, he is claiming that the U.K. has changed their strategy to react to his study and that should allow them to battle the virus with adequate resources.

Straight-up, our comments have no context within your linked articles.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It speaks for itself.

Coronavirus: Los Angeles to shelter in place for months, mayor tells us - Business Insider

Turns out all it took was the Chinese sniffles for fascism to take charge in America.

This is a day after an Oxford study concluded it was likely that half of the UKs population was already exposed meaning total case fatality is far lower then the flu

Half of United Kingdom Already Infected With Coronavirus, Says Oxford Model – Reason.com

Also the main researcher behind the imperial college model that cited millions of deaths has basically admitted his model was deeply flawed and that actual fatalities are lower then his estimate. Orders of magnitude lower.

UK has enough intensive care units for coronavirus, expert predicts | New Scientist

So as the science begins to show we’ve overreacted, the liberal democrats are clamping down tighter.
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All the countries around the world are doing the same as America.

Are you saying the whole world has gone fascist?
 
Irredentist said:
What do you mean "how are they working"? Is New York in a bad situation? Obviously. Should they relax restrictions? **** no are you joking?
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When your only tool is a hammer then you must address all problems as if they were nails. ;)
 
AmNat said:
The commies certainly knew how to inflict suffering on large numbers of people. No one can compare.
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Oh idk about that, the Nazis killed a lot of people, European colonial empires too. Commies ain't got no monopoly on human suffering.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
When your only tool is a hammer then you must address all problems as if they were nails. ;)
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You have a very limited view on the capabilities of government then: they can do a lot more than that.

But sometimes heavy handed action is indeed warranted.
 
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