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Despite other bombers coming into service
It's not up to the USA to decide what form of government other countries should have
In London there are statues of three presidents, can you guess who they are ?
What ships did the USA lose at Pearl Harbor ?
There is no evidence that the attack on Pearl Harbor was know about in advance or that the relatively small losses suffered were avoidable
And FDR had no socialist policies
I suspect you don't know what socialism is
But opposition to him protects democracy and freedom.[/QUOTE]
I am not familiar.
I know the F-35 has problems.
At times the problems can't be fixed as easy as were problems with the F-22.
Due to it's status as a war plane, I tend to doubt the Pentagon is in any mood to disclose flaws.
You are more up to date on that airplane than I am.
I derive most of my interest as a pilot. I have loved so many airplanes since around 1943 and once was going to be an Air Force pilot. I wanted then to fly fighter Jets. I do have an engineering background but not the full education. No degree in Engineering.
Well, the criteria is longevity, modernization tactics and things like that. Still they are flying missions.
By the way, I still don't hold myself out as some sort of expert on war planes.
I do not recall speaking of carpet bombing.
Super Carriers are vulnerable to things we may think of as top secret.
I learned many decades how the military only discloses as little as they think they can get away with.
I have never visited London. I flew over it on one or two flights.
We lost for a long time battleships and support ships.
We took a hell of a a licking at Pearl Harbor.
When Kennedy, Truman et al were presidents, they made it their business to try to create countries favorable to us. Trump does not do that.
I believe FDR was well aware of the military being built by Hitler and wanted the same thing for the USA.
For such a alleged wonderful president, he fell flat on his face.
He needed war.
Commander McCullom I believe is the correct spelling was the Intelligence officer and created the 8 point plan for FDR to get us into the war.
Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor is a book by Robert Stinnett. It alleges that Franklin Roosevelt and his administration deliberately provoked and allowed the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor to bring the United States into World War II. Stinnett argues that the attacking fleet was detected by radio and intelligence intercepts, but the information was deliberately withheld from Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, the commander of the Pacific Fleet at that time.
First released in December 1999, it received a nuanced review in The New York Times[1] and is frequently referenced by proponents of advance knowledge theories.[2]
Stinnett's starting point is a memorandum written by Lieutenant Commander Arthur H. McCollum in October 1940, which was obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. McCollum, then head of the Far East desk of the Office of Naval Intelligence,[3] discussed the strategic situation in the Pacific and ended with a list of eight actions directed at the Japanese threat. Stinnett characterizes the actions as "provocations" and states his belief in McCollum's point F ("Keep the main strength of the U.S. fleet now in the Pacific in the vicinity of the Hawaiian Islands") was intended to lure the Japanese into attacking it. Stinnett asserts that the overall intent was to provoke an act of war that would allow Roosevelt to enter into active conflict with Germany in support of the United Kingdom.
Walter Short and Kimmel were ordered to remain in a defensive posture with respect to the Japanese. Stinnett claims that intelligence intercepts were deliberately withheld from them to prevent them from mounting an adequate defense. He also claims that radio traffic was intercepted from the fleet as it approached Hawaii, allowing it to be tracked, but again, the information was withheld so that the defenders would be unprepared. All, says Stinnett, was directed from the White House itself with Roosevelt's knowledge and at his behest.
Day of Deceit - Wikipedia
I consider both Hitler and FDR to both be socialists. So of course I know what it is.
Fact is when it was still East Germany, I was there as well.
Trump is not about to be a dictator. That is merely Trump bashing. Besides a good many Democrats laud the dictator Castro defending him saying he Fidel Castro had the right of ruling an island nation.
Wikipedia failed to disclose that the Day of Deceit book has a wonderful prodigious amount of proof for his case at the back of the book. FOA helped him accumulate it.
Before you trash Stinnett. hear his case.
It's not up to the USA to decide what form of government other countries should have
In London there are statues of three presidents, can you guess who they are ?
What ships did the USA lose at Pearl Harbor ?
There is no evidence that the attack on Pearl Harbor was know about in advance or that the relatively small losses suffered were avoidable
And FDR had no socialist policies
I suspect you don't know what socialism is
But opposition to him protects democracy and freedom.[/QUOTE]
I am not familiar.
I know the F-35 has problems.
At times the problems can't be fixed as easy as were problems with the F-22.
Due to it's status as a war plane, I tend to doubt the Pentagon is in any mood to disclose flaws.
You are more up to date on that airplane than I am.
I derive most of my interest as a pilot. I have loved so many airplanes since around 1943 and once was going to be an Air Force pilot. I wanted then to fly fighter Jets. I do have an engineering background but not the full education. No degree in Engineering.
Well, the criteria is longevity, modernization tactics and things like that. Still they are flying missions.
By the way, I still don't hold myself out as some sort of expert on war planes.
I do not recall speaking of carpet bombing.
Super Carriers are vulnerable to things we may think of as top secret.
I learned many decades how the military only discloses as little as they think they can get away with.
I have never visited London. I flew over it on one or two flights.
We lost for a long time battleships and support ships.
We took a hell of a a licking at Pearl Harbor.
When Kennedy, Truman et al were presidents, they made it their business to try to create countries favorable to us. Trump does not do that.
I believe FDR was well aware of the military being built by Hitler and wanted the same thing for the USA.
For such a alleged wonderful president, he fell flat on his face.
He needed war.
Commander McCullom I believe is the correct spelling was the Intelligence officer and created the 8 point plan for FDR to get us into the war.
Day of Deceit: The Truth About FDR and Pearl Harbor is a book by Robert Stinnett. It alleges that Franklin Roosevelt and his administration deliberately provoked and allowed the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor to bring the United States into World War II. Stinnett argues that the attacking fleet was detected by radio and intelligence intercepts, but the information was deliberately withheld from Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, the commander of the Pacific Fleet at that time.
First released in December 1999, it received a nuanced review in The New York Times[1] and is frequently referenced by proponents of advance knowledge theories.[2]
Stinnett's starting point is a memorandum written by Lieutenant Commander Arthur H. McCollum in October 1940, which was obtained through the Freedom of Information Act. McCollum, then head of the Far East desk of the Office of Naval Intelligence,[3] discussed the strategic situation in the Pacific and ended with a list of eight actions directed at the Japanese threat. Stinnett characterizes the actions as "provocations" and states his belief in McCollum's point F ("Keep the main strength of the U.S. fleet now in the Pacific in the vicinity of the Hawaiian Islands") was intended to lure the Japanese into attacking it. Stinnett asserts that the overall intent was to provoke an act of war that would allow Roosevelt to enter into active conflict with Germany in support of the United Kingdom.
Walter Short and Kimmel were ordered to remain in a defensive posture with respect to the Japanese. Stinnett claims that intelligence intercepts were deliberately withheld from them to prevent them from mounting an adequate defense. He also claims that radio traffic was intercepted from the fleet as it approached Hawaii, allowing it to be tracked, but again, the information was withheld so that the defenders would be unprepared. All, says Stinnett, was directed from the White House itself with Roosevelt's knowledge and at his behest.
Day of Deceit - Wikipedia
I consider both Hitler and FDR to both be socialists. So of course I know what it is.
Fact is when it was still East Germany, I was there as well.
Trump is not about to be a dictator. That is merely Trump bashing. Besides a good many Democrats laud the dictator Castro defending him saying he Fidel Castro had the right of ruling an island nation.
Wikipedia failed to disclose that the Day of Deceit book has a wonderful prodigious amount of proof for his case at the back of the book. FOA helped him accumulate it.
Before you trash Stinnett. hear his case.
