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Impeachment Question On Procedure

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The questions come in written form; do either the House managers or the POTUS counsel get the questions upfront or are they hearing the question for the first time?
 
Rexedgar said:
The questions come in written form; do either the House managers or the POTUS counsel get the questions upfront or are they hearing the question for the first time?
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I would wager it has to be the first time officially,due to the time constraints, but its not like they can't predict the major themes and arguments and they know that these questions will be largely agenda driven just as they would in a regular trial, and they do have the documents including the House transcripts etc at their fingertips. Instead of one lawyer on each side asking a lot of questions you have a hundred lawyers asking them.

I am sure that a lot of these questions have been planted and vetted outside of Senate chamber, the same way as the examination and cross are largely planned exercises by attorneys the night before with plenty of room for some improvisation as the questioning goes on.
 
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Rexedgar said:
The questions come in written form; do either the House managers or the POTUS counsel get the questions upfront or are they hearing the question for the first time?
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For your passing enjoyment are applicable selections from "The Senate Rules of Procedure for Impeachment Trials" from same in the link given further below:

118 XIX. If a Senator wishes a question to be put to a witness, or to a manager, or to counsel of the person impeached, or to offer a motion or order (except a motion to adjourn), it shall be reduced to writing, and put by the Presiding Officer. The parties or their counsel may interpose objections to witnesses answering questions propounded at the request of any Senator and the merits of any such objection may be argued by the parties or their counsel. Ruling on any such objection shall be made as provided in Rule VII. It shall not be in order for any Senator to engage in colloquy.

120 XXI. All preliminary or interlocutory questions, and all motions, shall be argued for not exceeding one hour (unless the Senate otherwise orders) on each side.

https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blog/SMAN-104-pg177.pdf

I’ll just hazard a guess that to whom a question is directed is being told for the first time and has not received a copy nor has been told or given Morse code or smoke/flag signals of any specific question wording.
 
bluesmoke said:
For your passing enjoyment are applicable selections from "The Senate Rules of Procedure for Impeachment Trials" from same in the link given further below:

118 XIX. If a Senator wishes a question to be put to a witness, or to a manager, or to counsel of the person impeached, or to offer a motion or order (except a motion to adjourn), it shall be reduced to writing, and put by the Presiding Officer. The parties or their counsel may interpose objections to witnesses answering questions propounded at the request of any Senator and the merits of any such objection may be argued by the parties or their counsel. Ruling on any such objection shall be made as provided in Rule VII. It shall not be in order for any Senator to engage in colloquy.

120 XXI. All preliminary or interlocutory questions, and all motions, shall be argued for not exceeding one hour (unless the Senate otherwise orders) on each side.

https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blog/SMAN-104-pg177.pdf

I’ll just hazard a guess that to whom a question is directed is being told for the first time and has not received a copy nor has been told or given Morse code or smoke/flag signals of any specific question wording.
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Is snark civil?
 
bluesmoke said:
For your passing enjoyment are applicable selections from "The Senate Rules of Procedure for Impeachment Trials" from same in the link given further below:

118 XIX. If a Senator wishes a question to be put to a witness, or to a manager, or to counsel of the person impeached, or to offer a motion or order (except a motion to adjourn), it shall be reduced to writing, and put by the Presiding Officer. The parties or their counsel may interpose objections to witnesses answering questions propounded at the request of any Senator and the merits of any such objection may be argued by the parties or their counsel. Ruling on any such objection shall be made as provided in Rule VII. It shall not be in order for any Senator to engage in colloquy.

120 XXI. All preliminary or interlocutory questions, and all motions, shall be argued for not exceeding one hour (unless the Senate otherwise orders) on each side.

https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blog/SMAN-104-pg177.pdf

I’ll just hazard a guess that to whom a question is directed is being told for the first time and has not received a copy nor has been told or given Morse code or smoke/flag signals of any specific question wording.
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But I can garrantee you that, for example McConnell and Schumer have some pretty good ideas on what questions they want their caucuses to put on that paper, and some even better ideas on which objections they want made about other questions and those informal conversations are aplenty before and after that trial has ended its daily session. I think both camps are plenty smart enough to predicting the other side even without smoke signals. they all have law degrees, and most remember how this drill went when they practiced. Email, text messaging and the old fashioned telephone wonderful friends at times like this. For the most part, this ends up being about as improvisational as Kabuki drama.
 
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Some questions are so banal it beggars belief.

I almost expect one that asks "where do babies come from?"
 
Rexedgar said:
Is snark civil?
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I read the rules and appreciate Mod comments. Still, I don't know a limit until I get a pink post. Conundrum with amusement only from the outside. But I honor the site. I'm just the man in the grey flannel suit.

I believe posters settle matter within debate ground and when seeking relief from the Mods, the Mods make contact with the other party to seek settlement before pinking the offender.
 
btthegreat said:
But I can garrantee you that, for example McConnell and Schumer have some pretty good ideas on what questions they want their caucuses to put on that paper, and some even better ideas on which objections they want made about other questions and those informal conversations are aplenty before and after that trial has ended its daily session. I think both camps are plenty smart enough to predicting the other side even without smoke signals. they all have law degrees, and most remember how this drill went when they practiced. Email, text messaging and the old fashioned telephone wonderful friends at times like this. For the most part, this ends up being about as improvisational as Kabuki drama.
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There is very limited, unpredictable exception to what you say.
 
bluesmoke said:
I read the rules and appreciate Mod comments. Still, I don't know a limit until I get a pink post. Conundrum with amusement only from the outside. But I honor the site. I'm just the man in the grey flannel suit.

I believe posters settle matter within debate ground and when seeking relief from the Mods, the Mods make contact with the other party to seek settlement before pinking the offender.
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Best stop if you get one of those.
 
Rich2018 said:
Best stop if you get one of those.
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Well, yeah. A little late to know until pinked. But giving no warning is not in keeping with standard authoritative protocol. A warning is standard procedure. Pinking is not a warning. It's the act to be warned of.
 
bluesmoke said:
Well, yeah. A little late to know until pinked. But giving no warning is not in keeping with standard authoritative protocol. A warning is standard procedure. Pinking is not a warning. It's the act to be warned of.
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I know, I got a warning in one thread and was "removed from the discussion"

A while later I got "pinked" but thought I was OK to keep posting if I was let in.

Wrong.
 
Rich2018 said:
I know, I got a warning in one thread and was "removed from the discussion"

A while later I got "pinked" but thought I was OK to keep posting if I was let in.

Wrong.
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I studied the applicable rule before I posted what I did. The examples given were not of the nature I posted. I could and did prove what I said. Oh well.
 
bluesmoke said:
I studied the applicable rule before I posted what I did. The examples given were not of the nature I posted. I could and did prove what I said. Oh well.
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Sadly there is no trial or appeal procedure.
 
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