• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Pay attention please, Ken Starr is an actual expert on impeachment

Robertinfremont

Robertinfremont

Photo of me taken in the Army 1963
Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 3, 2018
Messages
30,122
Reaction score
3,395
Location
Meridian, Idaho
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Centrist
Ken Starr the brilliant judge and the expert that investigated Clinton will explain how this works. What about Obstruction of Congress? Well the House is not THE congress, it is part of the congress. So is the Senate and they have yet to find Trump guilty of obstructing them. Mark Levin speaks to this topic. So watch the Video and learn the law. Learn the constitution. And have a merry Christmas as you count your blessings you have a fine family.

Ken Starr: Trump'''s impeachment '''a very ugly chapter in our constitutional history''' | Fox News
 
Obstruction of Congress is truly a ridiculous charge, particularly since it isn't even a crime. It demonstrates just how mentally unhinged the Democratic Party has become.

It is possible for Sen. McConnell to effectively undo the damage caused by the Democrats with this unconstitutional impeachment. If he refuses to hold a trial and does not schedule any of the Articles of Impeachment for vote in the Senate then at the end of the 116th Session of Congress (January 3, 2021) the Articles of Impeachment passed by the House vanish into oblivion, like every other piece of legislation passed by the House and not voted on by the Senate. It would be as if the House vote never happened. Assuming Demcrats take control of the House in the 117th Session of Congress, they could resubmit and vote again on the Articles of Impeachment. However, if Republican take back control of the House next November, then the impeachment of Trump never happened.

If McConnell schedules either of the Articles of Impeachment for a vote in the Senate then it validates the House impeachment, regardless whether the Senate convicts or acquits. But if there is no vote in the Senate before the session ends, then there is no impeachment.
 
Last edited:
LOL. Ken ****ing Star? Get out of here with that bull****.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Ken Starr the brilliant judge and the expert that investigated Clinton will explain how this works. What about Obstruction of Congress? Well the House is not THE congress, it is part of the congress. So is the Senate and they have yet to find Trump guilty of obstructing them. Mark Levin speaks to this topic. So watch the Video and learn the law. Learn the constitution. And have a merry Christmas as you count your blessings you have a fine family.
....
Click to expand...

Please read my response carefully! Ken Starr's partisan hackery lacks all credibility.

Even with Trump's rigorous efforts to withhold, spin and control evidence of impeachable acts, enough evidence via witnesses surfaced to convince a majority of the House to vote for both Articles of Impeachment. I wholeheartedly support their decision!

We can do better than Trump as POTUS.

Trump suggested at a Michigan rally that the late Rep. John Dingell Jr. resides in Hell.

Thank God, out of the two major parties, the majority in one of them decided to uphold integrity.

Trump couldn't and can't uphold his oath.

Trump continues to prove his worth as another useful idiot for Putin.

The modern day Republican Party has become a cult, puts party above principles and has become willing to shamelessly associate with corruption.

Please find your way out of the abyss. Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday season!
 
Glitch said:
Obstruction of Congress is truly a ridiculous charge, particularly since it isn't even a crime. It demonstrates just how mentally unhinged the Democratic Party has become.

It is possible for Sen. McConnell to effectively undo the damage caused by the Democrats with this unconstitutional impeachment. If he refuses to hold a trial and does not schedule any of the Articles of Impeachment for vote in the Senate then at the end of the 116th Session of Congress (January 3, 2021) the Articles of Impeachment passed by the House vanish into oblivion, like every other piece of legislation passed by the House and not voted on by the Senate. It would be as if the House vote never happened. Assuming Demcrats take control of the House in the 117th Session of Congress, they could resubmit and vote again on the Articles of Impeachment. However, if Republican take back control of the House next November, then the impeachment of Trump never happened.

If McConnell schedules either of the Articles of Impeachment for a vote in the Senate then it validates the House impeachment, regardless whether the Senate convicts or acquits. But if there is no vote in the Senate before the session ends, then there is no impeachment.
Click to expand...



"particularly since it isn't even a crime"

Impeachment does not have to be for a crime. The point that you make in particular is erroneous, in particular.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
We can do better than Trump as POTUS.
Click to expand...
Of course we can do better, and then Democrats nominated the criminal Hillary.

If you are swimming in an ocean with a man-eating shark and a beat-up raft happens to come along, you aren't going to pass it up to wait to be rescued by a yacht. Naturally the States would choose Trump over Hillary. If Charles Manson were running for President they would have elected him before Hillary, she is that offensive.

Trippy Trekker said:
Trump suggested at a Michigan rally that the late Rep. John Dingell Jr. resides in Hell.
Click to expand...
I can't say I blame him one bit. Rep. Dingell was a POS traitor. In January 2003 Representatives Dingell, Thompson, and McDermott traveled to Iraq in order to give Saddam Hussein aid and comfort. He should have been arrested, tried, and shot for his crimes.

Trippy Trekker said:
Trump couldn't and can't uphold his oath.
Click to expand...
Name a Democrat who can.

Trippy Trekker said:
Trump continues to prove his worth as another useful idiot for Putin.
Click to expand...
Still believing in Hillary's lies I see. And you have wonder why people consider the Democrats to be mentally unhinged? Seriously?

Trippy Trekker said:
The modern day Republican Party has become a cult, puts party above principles and has become willing to shamelessly associate with corruption.
Click to expand...
The modern day Republican Party consists primarily of former registered Democrats. Including Trump.
 
Ken had better get cracking again. I'll bet there are tons of blow jobs going on out there that nobody knows about. Step up your game, Ken!
 
Glitch said:
Of course we can do better, and then Democrats nominated the criminal Hillary.
Click to expand...

Stop pretending you care about criminality and then for vote Trump. It's disgusting and you should be embarrassed.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Please read my response carefully! Ken Starr's partisan hackery lacks all credibility.

Even with Trump's rigorous efforts to withhold, spin and control evidence of impeachable acts, enough evidence via witnesses surfaced to convince a majority of the House to vote for both Articles of Impeachment. I wholeheartedly support their decision!

We can do better than Trump as POTUS.

Trump suggested at a Michigan rally that the late Rep. John Dingell Jr. resides in Hell.

Thank God, out of the two major parties, the majority in one of them decided to uphold integrity.

Trump couldn't and can't uphold his oath.

Trump continues to prove his worth as another useful idiot for Putin.

The modern day Republican Party has become a cult, puts party above principles and has become willing to shamelessly associate with corruption.

Please find your way out of the abyss. Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday season!
Click to expand...

Presenting a crock of partisan nonsense does not make the demorat majority in the House into the Constitutional arbiter of whether or not Trump remains in office. That decision is 100% in the hands of the Senate which requires a 2/3 supermajority vote to remove the POTUS from office - an action never taken in all of US History.
 
Levin, a Rush protege, and Ken Starr, the Conservative partisan who hounded Clinton for four years and orchestrated his lying under oath to impeach him about an affair?

You guys. It's like you drink the kool-aid straight out of the packet, no water needed, then tell others with red-stained lips "No really, its great, try it".

No thanks.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Ken Starr the brilliant judge and the expert that investigated Clinton will explain how this works. What about Obstruction of Congress? Well the House is not THE congress, it is part of the congress. So is the Senate and they have yet to find Trump guilty of obstructing them. Mark Levin speaks to this topic. So watch the Video and learn the law. Learn the constitution. And have a merry Christmas as you count your blessings you have a fine family.

Ken Starr: Trump'''s impeachment '''a very ugly chapter in our constitutional history''' | Fox News
Click to expand...

Only TDS could inform Americans that this impeachment IS NOT purely political, and that Democrats are abusing it.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Presenting a crock of partisan nonsense does not make the demorat majority in the House into the Constitutional arbiter of whether or not Trump remains in office. That decision is 100% in the hands of the Senate which requires a 2/3 supermajority vote to remove the POTUS from office - an action never taken in all of US History.
Click to expand...

The Democrats are also NOT the arbiter of what is a "fair" trial in the Senate. Pelosi is out of her demented mind.
 
Glitch said:
Obstruction of Congress is truly a ridiculous charge, particularly since it isn't even a crime. It demonstrates just how mentally unhinged the Democratic Party has become.

It is possible for Sen. McConnell to effectively undo the damage caused by the Democrats with this unconstitutional impeachment. If he refuses to hold a trial and does not schedule any of the Articles of Impeachment for vote in the Senate then at the end of the 116th Session of Congress (January 3, 2021) the Articles of Impeachment passed by the House vanish into oblivion, like every other piece of legislation passed by the House and not voted on by the Senate. It would be as if the House vote never happened. Assuming Demcrats take control of the House in the 117th Session of Congress, they could resubmit and vote again on the Articles of Impeachment. However, if Republican take back control of the House next November, then the impeachment of Trump never happened.

If McConnell schedules either of the Articles of Impeachment for a vote in the Senate then it validates the House impeachment, regardless whether the Senate convicts or acquits. But if there is no vote in the Senate before the session ends, then there is no impeachment.
Click to expand...

Interesting, but really long-term to play out. I think McConnell will have the trial and acquit.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Please read my response carefully! Ken Starr's partisan hackery lacks all credibility.

Even with Trump's rigorous efforts to withhold, spin and control evidence of impeachable acts, enough evidence via witnesses surfaced to convince a majority of the House to vote for both Articles of Impeachment. I wholeheartedly support their decision!

We can do better than Trump as POTUS.

Trump suggested at a Michigan rally that the late Rep. John Dingell Jr. resides in Hell.

Thank God, out of the two major parties, the majority in one of them decided to uphold integrity.

Trump couldn't and can't uphold his oath.

Trump continues to prove his worth as another useful idiot for Putin.

The modern day Republican Party has become a cult, puts party above principles and has become willing to shamelessly associate with corruption.

Please find your way out of the abyss. Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday season!
Click to expand...
Given what you just expressed, are you of the opinion that no new witnesses for the prosecution are required; to prove their case to remove the president?

Does it make Pelosi's explanation for holding the articles a bit pointless. Either they feel they have enough evidence to make their case or they don't. If they don't, they should not of ended the inquiry.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 
Anyone know when Nancy Pelosi will stop obstructing Congress by withholding these supposed articles of impeachment?
 
bluesmoke said:
"particularly since it isn't even a crime"

Impeachment does not have to be for a crime. The point that you make in particular is erroneous, in particular.
Click to expand...

What part of "high crimes and misdemeanors" do you...and Nancy...not understand?

Look. Nancy and her Lawfare buddies can trot out all the political-based nonsense they want. All that does is make them look like idiots if they actually push this impeachment thing.

This will not end well for Nancy & Co.
 
Acadia said:
The Democrats are also NOT the arbiter of what is a "fair" trial in the Senate. Pelosi is out of her demented mind.
Click to expand...
What i find amusing about them complaining about fairness is they were arguing just last week when it was in the house how this is a political procedure not a criminal one and therefore whats considered fair in a criminal proceeding does not apply here. Now all of a sudden it matters to them?

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 
Glitch said:
Obstruction of Congress is truly a ridiculous charge, particularly since it isn't even a crime. It demonstrates just how mentally unhinged the Democratic Party has become.

It is possible for Sen. McConnell to effectively undo the damage caused by the Democrats with this unconstitutional impeachment. If he refuses to hold a trial and does not schedule any of the Articles of Impeachment for vote in the Senate then at the end of the 116th Session of Congress (January 3, 2021) the Articles of Impeachment passed by the House vanish into oblivion, like every other piece of legislation passed by the House and not voted on by the Senate. It would be as if the House vote never happened. Assuming Demcrats take control of the House in the 117th Session of Congress, they could resubmit and vote again on the Articles of Impeachment. However, if Republican take back control of the House next November, then the impeachment of Trump never happened.

If McConnell schedules either of the Articles of Impeachment for a vote in the Senate then it validates the House impeachment, regardless whether the Senate convicts or acquits. But if there is no vote in the Senate before the session ends, then there is no impeachment.
Click to expand...

At least Trump actually broke a law Clinton got a blowjob and yet Starr is an expert and Congress by Republicans never ever abuse their power...The whole system is abused by both parties yet all you can muster is how bad one side is only..
 
trouble13 said:
Given what you just expressed, are you of the opinion that no new witnesses for the prosecution are required; to prove their case to remove the president?

Does it make Pelosi's explanation for holding the articles a bit pointless. Either they feel they have enough evidence to make their case or they don't. If they don't, they should not of ended the inquiry.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Neither Pelosi nor any members of her inner sanctum directly communicate with me. I can't speak to Pelosi's strategy with any certainty.

I light of public comments made by Moscow Mitch and the duplicitous Sen. Graham, I can understand serious concern about a lack of intent on holding a fair trial. This alarming and glaring fact probably factors into Pelosi's calculus.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Neither Pelosi nor any members of her inner sanctum directly communicate with me. I can't speak to Pelosi's strategy with any certainty.

I light of public comments made by Moscow Mitch and the duplicitous Sen. Graham, I can understand serious concern about a lack of intent on holding a fair trial. This alarming and glaring fact probably factors into Pelosi's calculus.
Click to expand...
Not because of anything either of them said but everyone should be concerned that its a fair process. Thats a given.

Im asking about the specific complaint that not allowing any new witnesses would be unfair to the accusers.

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
 
regarding Ken Starr, here's what happened (briefly)...


Independent counsel
- Appointment
- Investigation of the death of Vince Foster
- Expansion of the investigation

Resulting in...

i-did-not-have-sexual-relations-with-that-woman-quote-1.jpg





and then Ken Starr went on to cover-up...

Starr resigns as Baylor chancellor in wake of scandal - HoustonChronicle.com
 
trouble13 said:
What i find amusing about them complaining about fairness is they were arguing just last week when it was in the house how this is a political procedure not a criminal one and therefore whats considered fair in a criminal proceeding does not apply here. Now all of a sudden it matters to them?

Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

Democrats are expedient. They have no moral compass, so what fills the hole where their souls used to be is a Satanic need for power.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Please read my response carefully! Ken Starr's partisan hackery lacks all credibility.

Even with Trump's rigorous efforts to withhold, spin and control evidence of impeachable acts, enough evidence via witnesses surfaced to convince a majority of the House to vote for both Articles of Impeachment. I wholeheartedly support their decision!

We can do better than Trump as POTUS.

Trump suggested at a Michigan rally that the late Rep. John Dingell Jr. resides in Hell.

Thank God, out of the two major parties, the majority in one of them decided to uphold integrity.

Trump couldn't and can't uphold his oath.

Trump continues to prove his worth as another useful idiot for Putin.

The modern day Republican Party has become a cult, puts party above principles and has become willing to shamelessly associate with corruption.

Please find your way out of the abyss. Wishing you and yours a wonderful holiday season!
Click to expand...

Talk about partisan hackery that doesn't have credibility, the House Dems have wanted to impeach Trump since 2016 and they've been looking for something they could use as a weak excuse ever since.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom