Oath? A formality that doesn't mean much to some

Jonsa said:

You mischaracterize meullers findings. There's tons of evidence of warm and fuzzies between Trump, his campaign and the Russians. It just didn't rise to the level of criminal conspiracy. It sure was collusion tho.


And considering that this week both Vlad and Trump are using the exact same talking points on impeachment, it does make one wonder who got them from whom.

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Yes, the heads of government of 2 large countries communicating is certainly grounds for paranoia and suspicion. Embrace your inner coward.

Let's see how the Concord Management trial works out in April. Mueller's Minions are going to have to prove their flimsy case. The judge has already scolded Justice for irregular behavior.

Mueller-targeted Russian firm seeks April 2020 trial - POLITICO

It should be good for laughs.

Thoreau72 said:

Yes, the heads of government of 2 large countries communicating is certainly grounds for paranoia and suspicion. Embrace your inner coward.

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I can see how such simplistic interpretation of the Trump Putin interactions appeals to trumpians. It allows a top line dissmissal without any consideration of the actual facts. Cuts out all kinds of hard work like thinking.

Let's see how the Concord Management trial works out in April. Mueller's Minions are going to have to prove their flimsy case. The judge has already scolded Justice for irregular behavior.

Mueller-targeted Russian firm seeks April 2020 trial - POLITICO

It should be good for laughs.

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Are you suggesting that because Concord is going to court, that the charges are bogus?

If that's the case, I believe you should reexamine how you weigh pertinent data points in formulating opinion and make decisions.

Jonsa said:

I can see how such simplistic interpretation of the Trump Putin interactions appeals to trumpians. It allows a top line dissmissal without any consideration of the actual facts. Cuts out all kinds of hard work like thinking.



Are you suggesting that because Concord is going to court, that the charges are bogus?

If that's the case, I believe you should reexamine how you weigh pertinent data points in formulating opinion and make decisions.

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I'm waiting to see how it plays out in court. Russiagate and Mueller's investigation were political theater meant to distract simple minds. Life goes on.

Why do people think oaths should mean anything this country? When has America ever been honest & honorable? This was a country stolen from its natives, founded on lies, rape, murder and theft.

The Constitution itself is nothing but a government manual for trickery & deceit. It was an illegal document used to usurp government power by the federalists. No one had the right or permission to draft a new Constitution. Especially one that created a new government. That's why the federalist papers were written. They had to come up with excuses for their usurpation. The original resolution approved by the Confederation Congress regarding the May 1787 convention was for the “sole and express purpose” of revising the Articles of Confederation (organic constitution). What actually took place was a coupe d'etat. Hence the need for drafting in secrecy.

The lawyers who drafted it (in secret) intentionally riddled it with vague & ambiguous language containing double entendres. Their constitution was in fact a "bankruptcy compact," which are good for 70 years. There's been 4 constitutions, all of them exactly 70 year apart.

1789-1793 CONFEDERATE GOVERNMENT FILES CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY #1 VIA
"The Constitution *for* the united States of America"

1859-1863 FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FILES CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY #2 VIA
"The Constitution *of* the United States of America"

1929-1933 US GOVERNMENT FILES CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY #3 VIA
"The Constitution *of* the United States"

1999-2003 US GOVERNMENT FILES CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY #4 VIA
"The United States Constitution"

It's all about debt and bankruptcy. Getting people to pay off their debts & bail them out of bankruptcies.

The word "Constitutor" means one who, by a simple agreement, becomes responsible for the payment of another's debt. - Black's Law Dictionary, 1st Edition 1891

George Washington wasn't the 1st President, he was only 1st under their new Constitutional scheme. The reason he was so nervous at his inauguration is because he intentionally took the wrong oath to give himself power to tax. The executive oath is under Article VI, but he took the one under Article II. Every President has followed suit, meaning the actual of Office of President has been vacant since Washington.

We The People doesn't mean We The Citizens. "The People" in the Constitution are the State Legislation & political bodies. When you get a traffic ticket or get busted for a crime, the State prosecutes you. Your paperwork will read "The People of the State of xxxx vs. Joe Citizen. We are not the People.

Trickery & Deceit. That's what America is all about. Always has, always will.

And we expect the politicians to take their oaths seriously? lol

Jonsa said:

Given that both McConnell and Graham et. al. have declared their intention to dismiss the entire impeachment process PRIOR to the trial, one has to wonder if they must recuse themselves because they can't in all good conscience swear the oath required of the senators in an impeachment trial.





Can't get much more disrespect for the rule of law than that, not that trumpians will notice or care. they're giggling as the constitution is being shredded by Donnie "absolute immunity" Trump.

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Are you just ranting or do you have a remedial proposal ?

Rich2018 said:

Are you just ranting or do you have a remedial proposal ?

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Yeah, call Bolton, Mulvaney, the other two guys schumer requested and throw in guliani - all of whom have direct knowlege AND have the documents subpoenaed submitted. And even call Biden if the republicans actually think it makes a difference to what trump did.

What exactly does your Dear Leader have to hide if he did nothing wrong?

Jonsa said:

Yeah, call Bolton, Mulvaney, the other two guys schumer requested and throw in guliani - all of whom have direct knowlege AND have the documents subpoenaed submitted. And even call Biden if the republicans actually think it makes a difference to what trump did.

What exactly does your Dear Leader have to hide if he did nothing wrong?

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OK, but I doubt it will do any good

Secondly, he's not my "dear leader". Trump is a buffoon and a criminal and he's almost daily causing damage to America's interests.