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Does Constitution make liberalism illegal?

specious is as specious does, so I guess you got that goin' for ya.

when William Buckley Jr was asked to define conservatism at 50th Anniversary Party for NR he simply said " those of us against govt". That means liberals socialist communists fascists and monarchists are for govt or are liberal. 1+1=2 Now you see why our Founders were opposed to govt and why they made all strains of liberal govt illegal in America. Any more questions??
 
If what you post were to be true (COTUS was written in concrete), why did the Framers include Article V?

As a Democrat I find your comment that I am treasonous absurd and despicable.

1) Article 5 in the hope we might find a way to further limit govt, not to leave open the door to Sanders Warren AOC libcommunism.

2) why absurd and despicable? Do you think its coincidental the liberals spied for Stalin and gave him the bomb while he was killing 60 million, or that they must lie to take the oath of office wherein they pledge to defend a Constitution they despise?????
 
In the letter TJ had the following thoughts about the Constitution: The people cannot assemble themselves. Their representation is unequal and vicious. Various checks are opposed to every legislative proposition. Factions get possession of the public councils. Bribery corrupts them. Personal interests lead them astray from the general interests of their constituents: and other impediments arise so as to prove to every practical man that a law of limited duration is much more manageable than one which needs a repeal.
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please remember a liberal is a liberal out of near illiteracy:

1) Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party in 1792 because they thought the tiny govt of George Washington was getting far too big.

2) Jefferson wanted a new Constitution every 19 years to restore the freedom loving "spirit of '76." He thought the tendency of govt was to grow and to grow corrupt and that a new constitution was the best way to reassert individual liberty as found i the original Constitution.

Thomas Jefferson:
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."


Now you have the proper context in which to understand Jefferson! If you have more questions please feel free to ask.
 
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when William Buckley Jr was asked to define conservatism at 50th Anniversary Party for NR he simply said " those of us against govt". That means liberals socialist communists fascists and monarchists are for govt or are liberal. 1+1=2 Now you see why our Founders were opposed to govt and why they made all strains of liberal govt illegal in America. Any more questions??

You love big government.


You liberals....
 
please remember a liberal is a liberal out of near illiteracy:

1) Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party in 1792 because they thought the tiny govt of George Washington was getting far too big.

2) Jefferson wanted a new Constitution every 19 years to restore the freedom loving "spirit of '76." He thought the tendency of govt was to grow and that a new constitution was the best way to reassert individual liberty.

Thomas Jefferson:
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."


Now you have the proper context in which to understand Jefferson! If you have more questions please feel free to ask.

Jefferson was the guy who raped his slave......right?
 
You love big government.


You liberals....


Big government gives us liberalism and protection

Conservatism gives us no regulation and the freedom to do what you want and to hell with the consequences. If you make an extra buck from selling an unsafe car, so what ?
 
If you make an extra buck from selling an unsafe car, so what ?

Got it!! So libcommie govt must make sure our cars are safe and make sure everything else is safe too to spare us the burden and responsibility of freedom ie to infantalize us to an always greater degree until we are ready to turn everything over to AOC and her libcommie friends!! Now do you understand why our Founders preferred freedom?
 
Of course it does, by limiting central govt to a few enumerated powers. So then how can liberals legally hold office when they must swear an oath to defend a Constitution they openly despise? Does anyone actually believe someone like Bernie Sanders when he takes the oath of office?

Then I say we get all Constitutional on Trump voters. First thing we do is get them off the government teat by taking away their Medicare and Social Security. Then can be the trailblazers and pioneers!
 
Got it!! So libcommie govt must make sure our cars are safe and make sure everything else is safe too to spare us the burden and responsibility of freedom ie to infantalize us to an always greater degree until we are ready to turn everything over to AOC and her libcommie friends!! Now do you understand why our Founders preferred freedom?

So why did we humans ever give up on the freedom of the law of the jungle to create systems of law, order, justice, and civilization?

Is "The Constitution" just another way of saying "law of the jungle"? And the founding fathers just wanted to restore to us our "natural rights" and "freedom"- those same natural rights and freedoms we had when we were free in the jungle: the strong survive, the weak and vulnerable get eaten for lunch.

Social Darwinism: by those preaching against Darwin. So special!
 
Then I say we get all Constitutional on Trump voters. First thing we do is get them off the government teat by taking away their Medicare and Social Security. Then can be the trailblazers and pioneers!

we'd love that as long as we didn't have to keep paying the govt 5 times what we get back for medical care and SS. Do you understand??
 
So why did we humans ever give up on the freedom of the law of the jungle to create systems of law, order, justice, and civilization?

Are Founders agreed limited govt was necessary but had to be contained much like a nuclear reaction lest it do what it had always done, namely, kill millions and millions of innocent human beings. How many more years will it take you to remember the answers to your own always repeated questions?
 
And the founding fathers just wanted to restore to us our "natural rights" and "freedom"- those same natural rights and freedoms we had when we were free in the jungle: the strong survive, the weak and vulnerable get eaten for lunch.

Our natural right was to be free, not to be free to be eaten. IN the jungle if you attacked somebody they and allies attacked you back in defense. There were always rules. Govt became the ultimate evil in human history by organizing people into huge armies around huge ideas that slaughtered the opposition. Before liberal govt the slaughter was tiny. Now I think you've got your ABC's down!!
 
Social Darwinism: by those preaching against Darwin. So special!

yes social and biological Darwinism. Is the liberal opposed to science??? Do you think communism can reverse evolution?? Sorry dear it cant but Republican capitalism can come pretty close!!!!!
 
yes social and biological Darwinism. Is the liberal opposed to science??? Do you think communism can reverse evolution?? Sorry dear it cant but Republican capitalism can come pretty close!!!!!

SMH...social Darwinism isn't science. It was debunked during WW2 as biologists and historians revealed it to be nothing more than the fallacy of appealing to nature (Appeal to Nature). But hey, if you support social Darwinism like the Nazis did.....
 
liberals are for big govt and conservatives like our Founders were for freedom from liberal govt, Now do you understand these basics???

You do know that the federal government was expanded and given more power when the Founders and the Framers changed our government from the Articles of Confederation to the Constitution...and the the Constitution that the Founders and the Framers created did not have the Bill of Rights initially, right?

Ratifying the Constitution: June 21, 1788

Ratifying the Bill of Rights (originally 12 amendments, but only 10 made it): December 15, 1791
 
Our natural right was to be free, not to be free to be eaten. IN the jungle if you attacked somebody they and allies attacked you back in defense. There were always rules. Govt became the ultimate evil in human history by organizing people into huge armies around huge ideas that slaughtered the opposition. Before liberal govt the slaughter was tiny. Now I think you've got your ABC's down!!

So you think street gangs are OK, but national governments are not? Because the first is small and local, but the second is not?
 
So you think street gangs are OK, but national governments are not?

If I said that I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??? Do you know what a strawman is?
 
If I said that I'll pay you $10,000. Bet??? Do you know what a strawman is?

Here is what you said:
" IN the jungle if you attacked somebody they and allies attacked you back in defense. There were always rules. Govt became the ultimate evil in human history by organizing people into huge armies around huge ideas that slaughtered the opposition. Before liberal govt the slaughter was tiny. "

So how is that not describing how street gangs work. They are tiny. And if they attack somebody they and allies will attack them back in defense. There are always rules. Even for street gangs. At least you don't have liberal govt involved, right?

So what's wrong with it?
 
Here is what you said:
" IN the jungle if you attacked somebody they and allies attacked you back in defense. There were always rules. Govt became the ultimate evil in human history by organizing people into huge armies around huge ideas that slaughtered the opposition. Before liberal govt the slaughter was tiny. "

So how is that not describing how street gangs work. They are tiny. And if they attack somebody they and allies will attack them back in defense. There are always rules. Even for street gangs. At least you don't have liberal govt involved, right?

So what's wrong with it?

that's the way most countries work. Any population's govt is likely to be corrupt based on what we see in human history. That's why our Founders sought to strictly limit govt power. Now do you understand?
 
that's the way most countries work. Any population's govt is likely to be corrupt based on what we see in human history. That's why our Founders sought to strictly limit govt power. Now do you understand?

Well, at first they really took a lot of power away with the Articles of Confederation. But then they gave quite a bit back with the Constitution. Why?
 
please remember a liberal is a liberal out of near illiteracy:

1) Jefferson and Madison formed the Republican Party in 1792 because they thought the tiny govt of George Washington was getting far too big.

2) Jefferson wanted a new Constitution every 19 years to restore the freedom loving "spirit of '76." He thought the tendency of govt was to grow and to grow corrupt and that a new constitution was the best way to reassert individual liberty as found i the original Constitution.

Thomas Jefferson:
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground."


Now you have the proper context in which to understand Jefferson! If you have more questions please feel free to ask.

dear, dear jimmy, your historical ignorance reigns supreme - as always.

1) Jefferson and Madison formed the DEMOCRATIC-Republican Party in opposition to the Federalist Party which advocated stronger ties with Great Britain, a federal banking system and strengthened relationship between the government and wealthy, educated men.

2) Jefferson pushed for a new Constitution every 19 years because he thought each generation should be able to have the government it preferred and not one created by past generations.
The question Whether one generation of men has a right to bind another, seems never to have been started either on this or our side of the water. Yet it is a question of such consequences as not only to merit decision, but place also, among the fundamental principles of every government. The course of reflection in which we are immersed here on the elementary principles of society has presented this question to my mind; and that no such obligation can be so transmitted I think very capable of proof.—I set out on this ground, which I suppose to be self evident, ‘that the earth belongs in usufruct to the living’: that the dead have neither powers nor rights over it. The portion occupied by any individual ceases to be his when himself ceases to be, and reverts to the society. If the society has formed no rules for the appropriation of it’s lands in severality, it will be taken by the first occupants. These will generally be the wife and children of the decedent. If they have formed rules of appropriation, those rules may give it to the wife and children, or to some one of them, or to the legatee of the deceased. So they may give it to his creditor. But the child, the legatee, or creditor takes it, not by any natural right, but by a law of the society of which they are members, and to which they are subject. Then no man can, by natural right, oblige the lands he occupied, or the persons who succeed him in that occupation, to the paiment of debts contracted by him. For if he could, he might, during his own life, eat up the usufruct of the lands for several generations to come, and then the lands would belong to the dead, and not to the living, which would be the reverse of our principle.

usufruct noun -- the right to enjoy the use and advantages of another's property short of the destruction or waste of its substance.
 
liberals are for big govt and conservatives like our Founders were for freedom from liberal govt, Now do you understand these basics???

It must be willful ignorance because you once again have proven you have NO FRIGGIN CLUE WHAT A LIBERAL IS. But I am sure you will refuse to understand these basics.
 
when William Buckley Jr was asked to define conservatism at 50th Anniversary Party for NR he simply said " those of us against govt". That means liberals socialist communists fascists and monarchists are for govt or are liberal. 1+1=2 Now you see why our Founders were opposed to govt and why they made all strains of liberal govt illegal in America. Any more questions??

No he didn't simply say that. Got a link to this obvious fake quote. Course what it means in your book gives even more weight to the notion its total bull****.

Ya, my question is prove he said that.
 
In standard jimmie fashion, he once again creates his own 'history' in an attempt to support his ideology

when William Buckley Jr was asked to define conservatism at 50th Anniversary Party for NR he simply said " those of us against govt". That means liberals socialist communists fascists and monarchists are for govt or are liberal. 1+1=2 Now you see why our Founders were opposed to govt and why they made all strains of liberal govt illegal in America. Any more questions??

No he didn't simply say that. Got a link to this obvious fake quote. Course what it means in your book gives even more weight to the notion its total bull****.

Ya, my question is prove he said that.

from the ever so reliable Heritage Foundation, where I found the following words
Ever the defender of what Russell Kirk called “the permanent things,” Mr. Buckley continually reminded us that real conservatism is based on tradition and the cumulative wisdom of those on whose shoulders we stand.

He was reluctant to provide a final definition of conservatism, but he offered himself as a definition, admitting he was dependent on human freedom, not as an end, but as a means — to “live my life an obedient man, but obedient to God, subservient to the wisdom of my ancestors; never to the authority of political truths arrived at yesterday at the voting booth.”
 
In standard jimmie fashion, he once again creates his own 'history' in an attempt to support his ideology



from the ever so reliable Heritage Foundation, where I found the following words

Classic propaganda from far right sources, especially the goosesteppers and white nationalists.
 
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