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Can This Scenario Happen ?

Rich2018 said:
No, Republicans need to remember this when they shamelessly impeached Bill Clinton in 1998.


In Trump's case it's a question of House Democrats being unable to ignore Trump's criminality any longer. He HAS to be impeached and removed.
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Clinton actually broke the law. See the difference?

In Trump's case it's a question of House Democrats being unable to ignore Trump's criminality any longer. He HAS to be impeached and removed.
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The Democrats were talking impeachment before Trump was sworn in. This all about being butthurt over losing the election.
 
apdst said:
Clinton actually broke the law. See the difference?
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No I don't

Are you trying to say Trump hasn't broken the law ? Because he has.

Bill Clinton got a blow job and lied about it under oath....which would you say was serious ?



...the Democrats were talking impeachment before Trump was sworn in. This all about being butthurt over losing the election.
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Some were because Trump was seen as unfit for public office - and he's proven them right.


As a party, they were no more "butthurt" than Republicans seeing two defeats to Clinton and then two more to Obama.

Trump has committed more than just this once impeachable act. He's a walking, criminal, train wreck of a president and it had to stop. That's why his Ukrainian transgression was a step too far and House Democrats had to say "no more".
(Trump can't stop breaking the law though, he chose his own golfing property to host a G7 summit meeting before being told by Congressional Republicans it was too much - though Trump blamed Democrats and the media)
 
Rich2018 said:
Hypothetical situation - Can it happen:

Let's say Trump AND Pence are impeached and removed from office by the Senate.

Let's call this R day.

R + 1: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi takes the Oath of Office and becomes the 46th president of the USA

(does the Constitution say she has to quit her office as Congressman for Northern California?)

R + 2: President Nancy Pelosi nominates Hilary as VP

R + 3: Hilary takes the oath of office as VP

R + 4: President Nancy Pelosi resigns as president of the USA and returns to the house as Speaker

R + 5: Hilary is sworn in as the 47th president of the USA.



Can this happen ?
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No, for a number of reasons.

To begin with, Pelosi would have to resign as both Speaker and as a member of Congress - no one can work for two branches of the Government at once.

Second, in order for a "President" Pelosi to nominate Clinton as VP, she would have to be confirmed by Congress under the 25th. That would take months, not days.
 
TheDoctorWasIn said:
No, for a number of reasons.

To begin with, Pelosi would have to resign as both Speaker and as a member of Congress - no one can work for two branches of the Government at once.

Second, in order for a "President" Pelosi to nominate Clinton as VP, she would have to be confirmed by Congress under the 25th. That would take months, not days.
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I think it's been established that a President Pelosi would have to give up her House seat to become president.

Why would it take months to approve a new VP though - it's only ever been done twice and it didn't take months either time.
 
Napoleon said:
Not possible. If both the President and VP are removed then the line of succession kicks in and the Speaker of The House automatically becomes President.
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Actually, it would be important to remove Pence first, get his replacement in place before Trump was removed. This was a serious consideration as the impeachment of Nixon neared. Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew was up to his eyeballs in corruption, actually taking cash bribes while in the WH. The AG realized that Agnew would ascend to the presidency and could not be indicted if Nixon left office first.
 
Rich2018 said:
But I don't think the Constitution specifies an immediate relinquishment of one office does it. ?
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It doesn't. However, process precedent does factor in. That's why more often than not, a senator will run for president during a time in which he/she is not up for re-election in the senate. That way, if they come up short and are not elected president, they just go back to being senator. If they are elected, they resign their senate seat and the governor of their state appoints someone to complete their term.

Remember governor Blago in Illinois? He decided that president Obama's vacated seat was for sale.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
It doesn't. However, process precedent does factor in. That's why more often than not, a senator will run for president during a time in which he/she is not up for re-election in the senate. That way, if they come up short and are not elected president, they just go back to being senator. If they are elected, they resign their senate seat and the governor of their state appoints someone to complete their term.

Remember governor Blago in Illinois? He decided that president Obama's vacated seat was for sale.
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I was thinking that Nancy Pelosi, if she intended not remaining in the presidency more that a few days, might not resign her seat in the House.
 
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