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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    lol. He isn't asking anything but appeals to ignorance. Simply cutting and pasting the same thing over again and claiming nothing has been answered is a fallacy. You obviously haven't read the posts that lead up Any of these exchanges, or you would know; i resort to the fewest fallacies.

    And, only the right wing deliberately appeals to ignorance and claim they are Right wingers.

    Go to this thread and read post #195


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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Go to this thread and read post #195


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    lol. I gainsay your contention; want to argue about it? You have to prove I am the one appealing to ignorance by asking relevant questions.

    You and those of the Opposing View are simply "less competent" for equality purposes. The one who resorts to the fewest fallacies, wins.

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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    lol. I gainsay your contention; want to argue about it? You have to prove I am the one appealing to ignorance by asking relevant questions.

    You and those of the Opposing View are simply "less competent" for equality purposes. The one who resorts to the fewest fallacies, wins.
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    Refer to post #195

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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by NWRatCon View Post
    Our timidity in defending the principles and structure of the Constitution is allowing it to be killed by unscrupulous operators.
    Yes Democrats are very very unscrupulous. They oppose the most basic principle of the Constitution (limited conservative Republican govt) but take the Constitutional oath of office and swear to protect and defend the Constitution. Warren and Sanders believe in limited govt????????????

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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    Please, help me to understand what we can hope to get from an impeachment inquiry....
    Remove Trump from office

    ....the result of the impeachment itself is a forgone conclusion....
    I would have thought so a month ago, now I think it's possible

    At least it wounds and damages Trump and will make him an angry man next year liable to do even more electorally stupid things

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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post

    At least it wounds and damages Trump and will make him an angry man next year liable to do even more electorally stupid things
    Great, and then we can have the Green New Deal Great Depression!!! And open borders so that 100 million new folks can get free health care education housing from us!!

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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Remove Trump from office

    I would have thought so a month ago, now I think it's possible

    At least it wounds and damages Trump and will make him an angry man next year liable to do even more electorally stupid things
    Certainly the facts on the ground have changed since July, but even today I still wonder if what we have today is enough to push it through the Senate. I don't see much upside for the GOP to break ranks.

    I would rather the Dems spent their time and political capital producing a better candidate, but it doesn't seem like my wish is going to come true. Truly a lackluster showing.

    Trump doing stupid things is "good" for Democrat's chances in 2020, but I'd sure like them to do more smart things, themselves.
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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    Certainly the facts on the ground have changed since July,
    No they haven't. The Ukraine phone call is a much much greater stretch than the Russia collusion hoax. They want to impeach Trump for investigating the Biden mafia family when Trump has the smoking gun( $60k a month bribe laundered through son) and Democrats had nothing approaching a smoking gun in Russia investigation!!

    Once that become national issue in election Democrats are 100% doomed, not to mention Trumps economy is booming and Democrats are proposing Green New Deal Great Depression!!

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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by WillyPete View Post
    Certainly the facts on the ground have changed since July, but even today I still wonder if what we have today is enough to push it through the Senate. I don't see much upside for the GOP to break ranks...
    You have a point but the GOP senators are not immune from public opinion...and they have stayed remarkably quiet on the issue of impeachment.
    NBC even made the point that they asked several GOP senators to appear on its nightly new show but the declined

    Their absence from news programming no only shows their unwillingness to defend the indefensible and look stupid on TV but also their deep discomfort at Trump's actions


    ...I would rather the Dems spent their time and political capital producing a better candidate, but it doesn't seem like my wish is going to come true. Truly a lackluster showing....

    Yes fair point but Pelosi has to deal with a large and growing caucus in her own party that wants Trump's head

    Right now, Bernie looks the best candidate, I wish he was 10 years younger.



    ...Trump doing stupid things is "good" for Democrat's chances in 2020, but I'd sure like them to do more smart things, themselves.

    There's a phrase: give him enough rope and he'll hang himself

    Trump genuinely does not think he's doing anything wrong, I'm sure he didn't think for the slightest moment that hosting the G7 summit at his personal property was in the least bit wrong.

    He blame Democrats and the media for making him change!

    He'l make more than enough mistakes over the next year.

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    Re: Our Timidity is Killing the Constitution

    Quote Originally Posted by James972 View Post
    Great, and then we can have the Green New Deal Great Depression!!! And open borders so that 100 million new folks can get free health care education housing from us!!
    Only lousy capitalists lose money on public policies with a Commerce Clause.

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