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Thread: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    The whole point of the EC is to protect smaller States so the likelihood of that happening is almost nonexistent.
    And just for how long will this mathematical affirmative action program go on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And just for how long will this mathematical affirmative action program go on?
    Probably just as soon as you can convince the majority of the states to agree with you. Better get busy.

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    Article V of the Constitution prescribes how an amendment can become a part of the Constitution. While there are two ways, only one has ever been used. All 27 Amendments have been ratified after two-thirds of the House and Senate approve of the proposal and send it to the states for a vote. Then, three-fourths of the states must affirm the proposed Amendment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overitall View Post
    Probably just as soon as you can convince the majority of the states to agree with you. Better get busy.

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    What do you think this is all about anyways?
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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What do you think this is all about anyways?
    I thought it was about the Electoral College. What do you think itís about?

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Which liberals (do you have any names of liberal politicians who are still alive and who might serve as a example) don't believe in the Constitution ?

    Which part of the Constitution would they not like and why ? Don't liberals like laws about freedoms to be codified ?

    Does not the Constitution support liberalism and oppose conservatism ? Especially the bits about divorcing the state from religion and freedom of expression


    You rant about wanting socialism like it's a bad thing. Why is taxing the wealthy and providing healthcare and food/shelter to those in need, opposed to the constitution.
    Please don't rant about Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, Hitler etc....or about "commies"


    What liberals have said they want a one party state - which is a bad thing as everyone would agree ?
    But to be clear how many Democratic senators, Congressmen or Presidents does the GOP want ?
    I'm talking about liberals like Maxine Waters that want to shut Conservative speech down, and like AOC who wants to foist an idiot environmental plan on the public that will rob them of their private property by forcing them to retrofit their home to meet nebulous liberal requirements. Every Dem presidential candidate has said they support that Green Deal. Where have you been that you need me to point this stuff out to you? I haven't even gone into the whole gun debate here, but suffice it to say that there's tons of evidence that there are elected Democrats wanting to confiscate our weapons (e.g., Beto, Feinstein). So please spare me the nonsense of your ignorance or obtuseness about this stuff. Liberals hate the Constitution when they elect these idiots to office. The Constitution is just getting their way of implementing their social justice agenda.
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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And just for how long will this mathematical affirmative action program go on?
    Thatís been answered every time youíve asked it, but Ok letís keep playing this game.

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Overitall View Post
    I thought it was about the Electoral College. What do you think itís about?
    This here is about a public discussion of the issue which is part of the controversy. Convincing people is what is central to debate.
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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    That’s been answered every time you’ve asked it, but Ok let’s keep playing this game.

    For. Ever.
    Few things created by man are forever. It will be defended by partisan Republicans until the EC bites them in their own ass. Then and only then will they join the side to change it.
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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This here is about a public discussion of the issue which is part of the controversy. Convincing people is what is central to debate.
    I disagree. Convincing people is not central to a debate. Presenting your arguments is and the judges decide. Based on what I see here there’s a slim chance that anyone will ever change their minds.

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Overitall View Post
    I disagree. Convincing people is not central to a debate. Presenting your arguments is and the judges decide.
    Maybe in high school debate meets, but not in real life.
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