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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

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    just enough to give him the election. This is why Pelosi came and said after the election, "never again will we forget that we represent the working class."


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    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    You seem to cling to conditions you made (historically accurate) that I never argued. Please find my exact wording and why I said what I did and my argument is true.

    You sought a certain portrayal of the Founding Fathers and it was a false one. The lie isn't in the history but in trying to apply it to the Founding Fathers.
    I gave you your wording - HISTORICALLY ACCURATE - that is what you said about my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I gave you your wording - HISTORICALLY ACCURATE - that is what you said about my post.
    How you can tell when Haymarket knows he is wrong? The capslock comes out.

    Most lies contain some truth. Some of what you said was true, some was not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    How you can tell when Haymarket knows he is wrong? The capslock comes out.

    Most lies contain some truth. Some of what you said was true, some was not.
    You already lost this one when you conceded my post was HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.

    Give it up and brush yourself off and come back and fight another day. The bell already rang on this one and you were counted out.
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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You already lost this one when you conceded my post was HISTORICALLY ACCURATE.

    Give it up and brush yourself off and come back and fight another day. The bell already rang on this one and you were counted out.
    Historical truth and a lie based on a conclusion. As I said, you will do and say anything to "win" an internet discussion. BTW, "historically accurate" is your assertion, not mine. My assertion was you were engaging in revisionism. I proved my point with the education level of the Founding Fathers, what proof have you offered?

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Historical truth and a lie based on a conclusion. As I said, you will do and say anything to "win" an internet discussion. BTW, "historically accurate" is your assertion, not mine. My assertion was you were engaging in revisionism. I proved my point with the education level of the Founding Fathers, what proof have you offered?
    You surrendered yesterday. You were flushed and crushed. It is over.
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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You surrendered yesterday. You were flushed and crushed. It is over.
    Pathetic, you offer nothing, are proven to be portraying things incorrectly and are playing semantics because you have nothing else.

    Refute what has been presented. You have been offered evidence, act like you are here for discussion and address it.

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Supporters of fascism will gladly lie to you and tell you that Nazism was liberal.
    Supporters of fascism will lie to you about just about anything to gain a perceived advantage.

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Because you are trying to portray those that wrote the constitution as being similar to what you wrote, despite you actually knowing differently. What you posted isn't accurate to the writers and signatories of the DoI and Constitution but you can't help trying to link the two in a dishonest presentation because you want something done for you politically.

    Knowing full well you are bull****ting and doing it anyway is even more thoroughly dishonest.

    Average people is another conflation, because many of the founders were anything but average. For gods sake man, make an honest argument.
    I have a better suggestion, make an honest rebuttal.

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