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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    already discussed and refuted.
    Nah, you haven't. You claim you have, but you are just being dismissive.

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    already refuted.
    Your refutation has already been refuted:

    Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Athanasius68 View Post
    They are appointed through state elections.
    Yes. That is how they are appointed. Agreed.

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Great question.

    The sacred principle was developed over time - like most of America - and is today enshrined into law through various decisions and pieces of legislation.

    And the two things are indeed two different things that produce different results.

    As Robert DeNiro famously said in THE DEERHUNTER.... "this is this, this isn't something else, this is this".

    We all would do well to remember it.

    While the formula for Congressional seats was used to obtain the EC formula, it is two different things and one can be altered or changed without changing the other.

    The existence of one DOES NOT justify the existence of the other.
    No 38 states will ratify an amendment taking away two of their electors. Never gonna happen.

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    The EC is a vestige of slavery and needs to go.
    The EC was designed to limit democracy because our genius Founders knew the people were not too smart. Without it there might be a stampede to an AOC/Sanders Nazi Green New Deal Depression.

    Winston Churchill: : The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with an average voter"

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    No 38 states will ratify an amendment taking away two of their electors. Never gonna happen.
    In what world does one have to live to believe that State legislatures, imbued with the sole-power to determine the President of the United States by the US Constitution, would suddenly want to throw all that away in favor of mob rule? It is not a world I can imagine.

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post


    The founders rejected the tyranny of the majority.

    Progressive democrats wish of course to establish a tyranny of the majority.

    Getting what you want is often a curse when it all plays out at the end.

    I wonder if they are even aware of what they are trying to destroy.
    Sure they are they are trying to destroy the current system to make way for the LIbNazi Green New Deal, open borders, free health care and education for illegals, and guaranteed income for even those who don't want to work.

    Totally deceptive to hide behind EC. Did HItler say he was going to kill all the Jews and conquer the entire world when he started out?

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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    No 38 states will ratify an amendment taking away two of their electors. Never gonna happen.

    It will happen as soon as Republicans end up on the losing side of the EC while winning the popular vote.
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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    Your refutation has already been refuted:

    Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
    already refuted weeks ago.
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    Re: The Electoral College: Purpose, Problems, Alternatives

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It will happen as soon as Republicans end up on the losing side of the EC while winning the popular vote.
    I wonder which 38 states will ratify an amendment reducing their political power?

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