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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    I say the president does.

    Indeed repealing a constitutional amendment was one of FDR's key promises in 1932.
    He can't promise what he has no authority to do.

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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yes you did, dude! Now you deny your own argument yet again! Contextomy fallacy
    Then reprint me saying what you claimed I did.
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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by MauiMan View Post
    I’m not a lawyer, but doesn’t the Tenth Amendment say that the federal government possesses only those powers delegated to it by the United States Constitution. All remaining powers are reserved for the states or the people.

    Doesn’t that say the States each retain all power not delegated to the federal government? So, without an amendment, the States decide what they each want to do.
    The 10th amendment clarifies that. Constitutions do not give power to any government beyond specific powers. The powers given to Congress are enumerated in Article I, Section 8. The electoral vote system and the powers given to the President are described in Article II. Under the electoral college system, no State dictates the outcome of the Presidential election.

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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Then reprint me saying what you claimed I did.
    You have lost context. Done here.

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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You have lost context. Done here.
    I knew you would be impotent to take up the challenge and back up your false claims.

    You were done here a long ways back - it only just dawned on your now.
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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    He can't promise what he has no authority to do.
    Except that he did.

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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    The Electoral College is anti-democratic.

    The next Democratic president we have (hopefully and with the grace of god in January 2021) needs to scrap it with the assistance of Congress.


    Perhaps that's what Trump meant when he said the presidential election is rigged ?

    I wonder what he would say about the EC had he got the majority of the popular vote but Hilary had won the presidency ?
    "Rigged" would be the first word out of his mouth.
    What would the Democrats have said had their candidate won the most popular vote, but still lost the election?
    Maybe they would have claimed Trump conspired with the Russians to steal the election? Nah! They would never stoop so low.
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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The 10th amendment clarifies that. Constitutions do not give power to any government beyond specific powers. The powers given to Congress are enumerated in Article I, Section 8. The electoral vote system and the powers given to the President are described in Article II. Under the electoral college system, no State dictates the outcome of the Presidential election.
    I'm just coming into this thread, so forgive me if you (or anyone else) has already addressed this... but Article II §1 empowers the State Legislatures to appoint it's Electors as it sees fit. Maine and Nebraska don't have a winner-take-all System because State law allows each Electoral District to choose it's own Elector (with two chosen by the statewide election).
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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Except that he did.
    Nope. No president has the authority to change the Constitution of the United States. FDR didn't have that authority either.

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    Re: Winner Take All Electoral College

    Quote Originally Posted by Cordelier View Post
    I'm just coming into this thread, so forgive me if you (or anyone else) has already addressed this... but Article II §1 empowers the State Legislatures to appoint it's Electors as it sees fit. Maine and Nebraska don't have a winner-take-all System because State law allows each Electoral District to choose it's own Elector (with two chosen by the statewide election).
    You are correct. The method the electors are chosen by is up to each State, according to that State's constitution. Nothing prevents the legislature of a State from simply declaring who the electors are. I think all States at this time have some form of public vote to choose some or all of its electors. See your own State constitution.

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